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This bow is insanely great!

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Frisky 14-Jun-18
Buzz 14-Jun-18
indianalongbowshoote 14-Jun-18
Frisky 14-Jun-18
olddogrib 14-Jun-18
BowAholic 14-Jun-18
Jinkster 14-Jun-18
Kodiak 14-Jun-18
Lost arrow 14-Jun-18
Smokin Joe 14-Jun-18
Frisky 14-Jun-18
ModernLongbow 14-Jun-18
T4halo 14-Jun-18
hookman 14-Jun-18
4nolz@work 14-Jun-18
Blackstick 14-Jun-18
Bassman 14-Jun-18
Gray Goose Shaft 14-Jun-18
monkeyball 14-Jun-18
StikBow 14-Jun-18
rallison 14-Jun-18
Knifeguy 14-Jun-18
M60gunner 14-Jun-18
nomo 14-Jun-18
RonG 14-Jun-18
Nemophilist 14-Jun-18
Frisky 14-Jun-18
2 bears 14-Jun-18
Jinkster 14-Jun-18
dean 14-Jun-18
Michael Schwister 14-Jun-18
skookum 14-Jun-18
Hawkeye 14-Jun-18
Babbling Bob 14-Jun-18
Frisky 14-Jun-18
Jinkster 14-Jun-18
crookedstix 14-Jun-18
buroak 14-Jun-18
George D. Stout 14-Jun-18
buroak 14-Jun-18
hawkeye in PA 14-Jun-18
Lowcountry 14-Jun-18
Frisky 14-Jun-18
skookum 15-Jun-18
Frisky 15-Jun-18
From: Frisky
Date: 14-Jun-18

Frisky's embedded Photo



Folks, after I Robin Hooded an arrow with the Hoyt, I put it down, in disgust, and I took out the Bear TD, a few weeks ahead of my shoulder rehab schedule. Shooting in the dark, with the bow of Sagittarius looking over me in the southern sky, I was blown away with my new Bear! It's insanely great! It's smoking fast, and I've never shot a bow this whisper quiet! I was thinking, it must be the fast flight string and puff balls, but Crookedstix found out puff balls tend to slow bows down a little, and this bow is so fast, I could rocket launch a shaft down to Jamaica! The string is beautifully made but seems a little thick. However, I get great nock fit and just love the string. I've read Bear strings are over-built, and this one does look that way. I'm thinking the shooting qualities probably come from the new limbs. They don't look like Bear limbs. They are tapered like a Drake and have tips just like a Deathmaster. Anyway, I've never shot anything like them! The bow is dead on accurate, with zero shock or finger pinch. The grip got a little slippery as my hand began to sweat, but it stayed still in the hand. I'm going to continue shooting the bow, but I'll limit my shot count to 20 or less until I get used to it. It's 47 pounds.

Joe

From: Buzz
Date: 14-Jun-18




Nice.

From: indianalongbowshoote
Date: 14-Jun-18




all bows are insanely fast ,quiet etc when you first get them, then after you have them for awhile you figure out that it shoots about the same as the last insanely fast and quiet bow you had:) Nice bow though.

From: Frisky
Date: 14-Jun-18




No. This one is different. This one is shockingly great! This is Vlad the Impaler!

Joe

From: olddogrib
Date: 14-Jun-18




The smart money says the Jinkster will own it within two months. And now he's gonna be on JSOG's list also..there was only one Vlad (and it wasn't made by Fred). I hope he can afford Secret Service protection as rumor has it his self defense capabilities are marginally adequate against mortally wounded roadkill that's still floppin' and hasn't quite "given up the ghost" yet!

From: BowAholic
Date: 14-Jun-18




They are definitely nice bows. I'm a total selfbow/longbow fan and have been for decades. I have bought and sold many custom bows only because the grip was too big, fat, or high wrist. I got an "A" riser Bear and instantly could shoot it as well as any bow I've owned, even though it was almost the opposite of them...being a larger riser, short, recurve with a high wrist grip. When I put a pair of the new narrow/small tip limbs on it, I liked it even more. Have fun, shoot well, and enjoy your new bow... Jinkster can buy his own. :)

From: Jinkster
Date: 14-Jun-18




"Insanely Great"?...

(Insanity being: doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results! LOL!)

From: Kodiak
Date: 14-Jun-18




Certain bows just absolutely fit certain people.

Congrats Joe, I'm happy for ya. It's an all time classic.

From: Lost arrow
Date: 14-Jun-18




After a closer look at the picture I must say that is one fine looking case. Can’t see all of it because of the junk laying on it.

From: Smokin Joe Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Jun-18




I love Bear TDs, and the new two-tone ones like yours are darn good looking.

From: Frisky
Date: 14-Jun-18




Lost Mind and Jinkster have never experienced the thrill and joy of shooting a magnificent bow like my new Bear! I've had the wow factor shooting a bow before, but this one has the WOWWW! factor!

Joe

From: ModernLongbow
Date: 14-Jun-18




Objectively the only reports i can find is that these shoot about 5-10 fps slower than some of the top bows on the market, but thats not the only important thing, and that still makes them faster than a lot of bows. I’ve just never met a maple core limb that i liked.

From: T4halo
Date: 14-Jun-18




I'm glad you are enjoying your new bow. I hope the shoulder holds up, it would be a shame to have a bow you really enjoy and not be able to use it. I'm ready to work out the details in the sale of your Drake. I need another.

T4

From: hookman
Date: 14-Jun-18




What's the poundage of it? That usually has something to do with speed.

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 14-Jun-18




Frisky I put a rubber shur-grip on my A handle for hunting.The neck of the grip can get sweaty.

From: Blackstick Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Jun-18




Frisky, I can now stand to read your rants since you smarted up and finally got a decent bow to rave about.

From: Bassman Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 14-Jun-18




If you like it as much as i like my 64 Kodiak i am happy for you.It is the only Bear bow i have left.good shooting and hunting.

From: Gray Goose Shaft
Date: 14-Jun-18




I love to hear from an archer that is excited and emotional about their bow whether it is fifty years old or brand new. Thanks for the buzz, Frisky.

From: monkeyball
Date: 14-Jun-18




Hmmm, no target with arrows and bow showing........not even a string showing on this "insanely great" bow.

Are you sure you did not just have a dream last night Joe?????

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: StikBow
Date: 14-Jun-18




Great bow. Even has a compass so you can find your way home from the roadkill scene Hard to believe you have yet another bow to rave about. What happened to the grail? Seems like you trade out bows as often as many of us change socks

From: rallison
Date: 14-Jun-18




I hope it's "you" Joe. Let the honeymoon wind down, find out what's she's like in the morning, and let 'er ride for awhile.

I agree with the above post in regard to the new bow, and kinda temper my judgement till the newness is in the rear view mirror.

When you find the bow for you, you'll know it. I'm unlike a lotta guys 'round here, in that they are presently holding more bows than I've ever owned. When I find "IT", I hang on.

I now have twice the collection I normally hold...two. and both are "IT" for me. A 60" takedown recurve, 52# at my 29"...and an RD one piece longbow, 53# at same. From the same bowyer.

I'm good to go.

From: Knifeguy
Date: 14-Jun-18




Frisky Joe, I also enjoy my Bear T/D’s and agree with you about the joy of shooting them. Keep enjoying your bow and take it slow so your shoulder heals. Lance

From: M60gunner
Date: 14-Jun-18




Glad you like your “new” bow rather than that worn out wallhanger. I notice those limbs have a serious hook to them. More so than my 90’slimbs. More like my Rose Oak limbs. Now if we could convince Bear we need carbon/ wood limbs to get some real performance so a 40# bow would shoot as heavy an arrow as a 50# bow with 55# speed.

From: nomo
Date: 14-Jun-18




X2 Jinkster. Also add 10 pts. LOL

From: RonG
Date: 14-Jun-18




Stikbow, he needs the compass just to get back to his car.

Just kidding Joe, I am glad you got a good one, I bought a 1971 Bear Tamerlane and strung it up and had some aluminum arrows to match the poundage and after shooting ten or fifteen arrows through it I could put all of them in a three inch circle at 15 Yards, they definitely are good shooting bows.

From: Nemophilist
Date: 14-Jun-18




No bow is perfect. The secret is to find a bow that is perfect for you. Shoot straight Joe.

From: Frisky
Date: 14-Jun-18




There's now a perfect bow, and it's called the Bear Custom Kodiak TD! Let's put the 5 to 6 feet per second slower crap to rest. These new Bears have new limbs. They taper really narrow, like a Drake, have better tips, like a Deathmaster, and lots of hook without looking clunky like Jinkser's pile of garbage Border. You don't hear Jinkster talk about the border anymore, as the limbs probably blew! Vlad is going to do some serious impaling this fall! I have my own custom made bow saddle, for sweaty hand days and nights, but I'm holding off on it, preferring the uncovered beauty of this fine specimen!

Joe

From: 2 bears
Date: 14-Jun-18




No mention of stacking the arrows,one inch" groups, or a Robinhood,like the other bow. :^) Nice looking bow. Be careful with your shoulder. :^) >>>----> Ken

From: Jinkster
Date: 14-Jun-18




I had two of those insanely great bows for about 3 months...right before I sold'em and bought the one hanging on my wall almost 1 1/2 years ago now. ;)

From: dean
Date: 14-Jun-18




The Bear takedown is a good bow, I have had a couple, but they do not come even close to my JD Berrys or my Sunset Hill. I would wait before hose clamping a crown on that bow.

From: Michael Schwister Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 14-Jun-18




Bear Custom Kodiak Takedowns have a well EARNED reputation as great bows. You do not grow a loyal following over half a century if it were not true. Not everyone's cup of tea (I find them too heavy and cumbersome to carry in the woods when compared to my beloved and majical osage selfbows) But, they are high performance money every single day, dawn to dusk and for decades of loyal service

From: skookum
Date: 14-Jun-18




Congratulations on getting the "Volkswagen of all Bows"!!!

From: Hawkeye Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 14-Jun-18




What does this mean to the Holy Grail of bows???

From: Babbling Bob Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Jun-18




Really good looking riser for sure.

From: Frisky
Date: 14-Jun-18




I have the Ferrari of Bikes in my Colnago. Now, I have the Ferrari of Bows! Fast, sleek and beautiful running! I should have known the best bow wasn't going to come out of the West Coast! Those clunkers can't hold a candle to this new Bear. The Grail is the only great bow out of the West Coast. Even without a fast flight string, it almost equals the Bear. With a FF string, it's probably better. Even though it's only 2 pounds lighter than the Bear, it feels much easier pulling. I'm holding tight to it and might take deer number 4 with it, if the Bear bothers my shoulder.

Joe

From: Jinkster
Date: 14-Jun-18




Your shoulder would prolly be just fine if it wasn't for all that stacking.

From: crookedstix
Date: 14-Jun-18




I can't say a bad word against the Bear, since I've never shot one. Plus, after I helped grease the skids when Joe swapped his Deathmaster for the new Bear, he was thoughtful enough to send me a great gift--a Victorinox Swiss Army knife; their top-of-the-line "Farmer" model, which is now my constant pocket companion.

So reluctantly, I must suspend any criticism of him and his new bow...at least until a decent period has elapsed. My next quest is to lure him and his bow to Colorado this fall for elk season!

From: buroak
Date: 14-Jun-18




I agree that the new bear limbs are awesome. I have a set of 45 pound 1’s and with a SBD 6 strand string they sling an arrow well. Now I just need to get the new Static K4....

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Jun-18




The Bear Custom Kodiak is as good as any bow made in that design, and it will perform just as well as any of like design. These guys like to tout their expensive, radical designs and that is all well and good. To compare those to a completely different design isn't sensible anyway. I'll take a Custom Kodiak if I only had one choice for a recurve to carry.

From: buroak
Date: 14-Jun-18




I completely agree.

From: hawkeye in PA
Date: 14-Jun-18




So this bow is so good you'll be hunting away from the jersey barriers and in the big woods this fall?

I been shooting one for around 35 years now. Glad you like it and its a fine looking bow.

From: Lowcountry
Date: 14-Jun-18




Let's be honest. Was there ANY chance Frisky's new bow was not going to be the Bestest of the Best, the Fastest of the Fast, the Quietest of the Quiet, and the Smoothest of the Smooth? Lol

Glad you like the Bear and it is shooting well for you Frisky. Hope your shoulder fully heals up, and you are able to shoot it for years to come.

From: Frisky
Date: 14-Jun-18




George is quite sensible on this matter. One thing about the Bear TD is you never age out of it. Shoulders get bad, and I'll trade the limbs for 42 pounders. No problem. However, my particular limbs are likely the best Bear ever made, as they knew they were making them for me and didn't want to put out anything but the best of the best!

Joe

From: skookum
Date: 15-Jun-18




Colnago? Another cheap secondhand import gadget, Frisky. You need to step up to a real bike like my Davidson!

From: Frisky
Date: 15-Jun-18




I will say the West Coast bikes were among the best of the best. I liked bikes from Davidson, Bruce Gordon and the CA made Masi. Dave Moulton made many of the Masi bikes in California. He also made my beautiful Fuso! However, it's hard to beat the ride of a Colnago. Ernesto knew what he was doing. Lately, I've been looking at the old Cinelli bikes, and they are about as flashy as they come.

Joe





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