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Showing some beautiful 1960-1965 Howatts

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From: Renewed Archer
Date: 09-Jun-18

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In the last months I've been getting some beautiful and great shooting vintage Howatt bows. Thought I show them here. In order of the years, they are: 1960 Monterey, 30#, 62" 1961 Hunter, 45#, 62" 1961 Diablo, 45#, 58" 1962 Ventura, 35#, 66" 1962 Hi Speed, 37#, 54" 1963 Hi Speed, 40#, 58" 1963 Hunter, 45#, 62" 1964 Hunter, 48#, 62" 1965 Hunter, 45#, 62"

Hopefully the years are correct!

Thanks to Mark and Pete for inspiring, advising and informing.

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 09-Jun-18

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That one above is the Monterey. Here's the 61 Hunter. It has a knife edge.

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 09-Jun-18

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This may be the most beautiful, a 61 Diablo.

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 09-Jun-18

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62 Ventura. The smoothest shooting bow I have.

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 09-Jun-18

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37# 54"1962 Hi Speed. A terrific little shooter.

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 09-Jun-18

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The 63 Hi Speed next to the 61 Diablo.

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 09-Jun-18

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The 61, 63 and 64 Hunters (top to bottom) shown with each other.

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 09-Jun-18

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A 45# 65 Hunter.

From: grizzley21 Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 09-Jun-18




some very nice looking bows there,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

From: 2 bears
Date: 09-Jun-18




Very nice I always liked Howatts. A super Diablo was my first real hunting bow. I am down to one Super D 45 pounder now. Ken

From: David McLendon
Date: 09-Jun-18




Very nice, especially the trio of Hunters

From: John Horvers
Date: 09-Jun-18




Cream de la cream of bows, nice.

From: crookedstix
Date: 09-Jun-18

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All aboard the Howatt train! I was just thinking of starting a thread on the same topic, because I really think those bows from '60-'65 are just in a class of their own...and thanks to Larry, we know that it was largely because of that stand-up sander he rigged up that they could generate such amazingly sculpted risers efficiently enough to meet their production demands.

Here's a 1962 Hunter...

From: crookedstix
Date: 09-Jun-18

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...and another 1960 Monterey...

From: pickngrin
Date: 09-Jun-18




I recognize that '63 Hi Speed.

From: longbowguy
Date: 09-Jun-18




The Larry referred to is Larry Hatfield, the most interesting man in the world. He is still very active in many fields of interest and posts now and then on here and on TradTalk.com. He is one of the greats of our sport. - lbg

From: Outwest on laptop
Date: 10-Jun-18




Beautiful old bows for sure. Those old Howatt's are in a class of their own.

From: Wapiti - - M. S. Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 10-Jun-18




Very nice I especially like the 61 Diablo.

From: Timbukto
Date: 10-Jun-18




You don't grip a howatt A howatt grips you You don't draw back a howatt A howatt draws you in

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 10-Jun-18




Kerry, that 62 Hunter is beautiful. As is Mark's. I think I "need" one of those, it's a year I don't have! The Monterey is beautiful also. Please do add more photos. And anyone can join in. The more the better as far as I'm concerned.

Hopefully Pete will post some pics also.

And thanks for everyone else's comments.

My problem with these bows is that the actual draw weight can vary quite a lot, from the rated weight. 48# or so is the upper limit of what I can shoot. Often I prefer or have to shoot much lighter bows. Aside from the tournament bows, it's very difficult to find a lighter Hunter, Diablo, etc. I was lucky with that 61 Diablo. Rated 45#, it's 44.75# for me. But some of the bows I've gotten have been 6#s over the rated weight, at my draw of 28.75". They are great to look at but I only get them to shoot. So I wind up getting some I don't keep.

I'll post some more and better pics soon... right now my Internet speed is too slow. Shandor

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 10-Jun-18

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Another view of the 60 Monterey.

From: ca
Date: 10-Jun-18




Super nice bows.Timeless design.

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 10-Jun-18

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The 61 Diablo. All the shooting in these pics is from 33 yards.

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 10-Jun-18

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The 61 Diablo.

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 10-Jun-18

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Oops. Sorry for the repeat.

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 10-Jun-18

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The 61 Hunter. First time out with it. No wonder I love these bows so much! Fantastic shooters, plus beauty and those amazing shapes and curves.

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 10-Jun-18

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The 62 Ventura. One of my few "perfect" shots. Also from 33 yards.

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 10-Jun-18

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The 62, 54" Hi Speed. Now I don't need a KMag!

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 10-Jun-18

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The 65 Hunter. Yeah, I shoot in snow, hail or rain if that's the only way to shoot.

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 10-Jun-18

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A 66 Hunter. I didn't show it before. Looks identical to the 65 Hunter.

From: Keefers
Date: 10-Jun-18

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My Howatt Hunter

From: Keefers
Date: 10-Jun-18

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Other side

From: Keefers
Date: 10-Jun-18

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Better picture of how dark the riser is

From: Keefers
Date: 10-Jun-18

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Now the Hi speed on far right is a 74 but I sold that one a month ago .

From: crookedstix
Date: 10-Jun-18

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Hah, Peter's holding out on us--the market's so hot for these old Howatts already; he doesn't want to throw any more wood on that fire!

Luckily, many of his Howatts came from me anyway, so I've got the pix too! Like this 1962 Hunter...

From: papadeerhtr
Date: 10-Jun-18




Sweet looking bows never owned a howatt.

From: Buzz
Date: 10-Jun-18




Ver nice.

From: Pdiddly
Date: 10-Jun-18

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Nice bows Shandor!

As some have noted I have one or two.

In terms of design and aesthetic appeal they were ahead of their time and in a league of their own.

Here's a 1961 Monterey...

From: Pdiddly
Date: 10-Jun-18

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Closeup of the riser...

From: Pdiddly
Date: 10-Jun-18

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The 1960 Monterey's are easy on the eyes too, along with being stable and fast.

From: Pa Steve
Date: 10-Jun-18




Some great looking bows. They're definitely classics. Some of the best bows of that time period.

From: Pdiddly
Date: 10-Jun-18

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The riser close up..the lamination choices are stunning.

From: Pdiddly
Date: 10-Jun-18

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Here's a 1962 rosewood Hunter...the knife edge was offered in the 1961 and 1962 Hunter models and was made with a hand rasp...quite impressive.

From: Joe2Crow
Date: 10-Jun-18




Wow, you guys are killing me with those beautiful old Howatts. I definitely need to find a few of those

From: Pdiddly
Date: 10-Jun-18

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Here's one that has not been shown... a 1960 Hunter with a walnut and rosewood riser. I like the look of this simple design, especially with the 3M turquoise glass.

From: CStyles
Date: 10-Jun-18




So if you had to pick one, which is your favorite? It is an awesome collection. Thanks for posting them, fun to look at Chuck S

From: Pdiddly
Date: 10-Jun-18

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Last one of a 1964 Hunter...that was the final year of the all rosewood riser...these has a flat edge on the belly of the riser and tip overlays.

The rosewood was stunning in these models and the matching of the laminations so precise it was hard to see that it was not one piece.

From: Pdiddly
Date: 10-Jun-18

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Another view of the 1964 Hunter...back side of the riser and the sculpting of the wood made possible with the upright sanding machine designed by Larry. Brilliant!

From: crookedstix
Date: 10-Jun-18

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Oh, let's have a few more...like this 1962 Hunter.

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 10-Jun-18

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Pete, Keefers, those bows are stunning! I can see there are a few I don't have yet! And I was fortunate to get the ones I do have.

Two questions:

1. Does anyone have a favorite model/year?

2. What do you veterans think of refinishing that 61 Diablo? Leave the scratches and cracks in the finish as marks of its character? Or preserve it with a new finish?

From: cueman
Date: 10-Jun-18

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group picture of a couple of my Monterey's.

top to bottom 57 Deluxe Early 61 Late 61 63 with white 3M glass 63 with black glass

From: crookedstix
Date: 10-Jun-18




We haven't yet heard from Zepnut, who has a ton of these old beauties...

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 10-Jun-18




I don't know if I can stand seeing a ton more of these beauties. I'm starting to get Howatt envy! Does anyone here ever have too many and needs to get rid of some? But OK, I hope Zepnut shows us more. I'll brace myself. After I get over seeing those Montereys of Cueman's.

From: oldbow
Date: 10-Jun-18




I have six Super Diablos..Five rosewoods and one with the plywood handle...The best shooting one was the 1969 Hunter..

From: RonG
Date: 10-Jun-18




I love those Montereys.

I had a Ventura and a Mamba, both were more than I could comfortably shoot anymore so I let others have them who were much younger.

Someone mentioned those Howatts where a class act, Larry Hatfield is a class act.

Now if I could find a Monterey in the 45 to 50 lb range...MMMMMMM! Just thinking out loud.

From: Brad Lehmann
Date: 10-Jun-18

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My most recent Howatt restore

From: Brad Lehmann
Date: 10-Jun-18

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I sold this one.

From: Chas
Date: 10-Jun-18

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The back side of my '64 Hunter. Fun to shoot but may be putting in on the selling block.

From: cueman
Date: 10-Jun-18

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Some more hunters 60, 61 in 66" length, a near end of this riser 61, and a late 61 knife edge with conquestador sticker instead of the Ne Plus Ultra.

From: cueman
Date: 10-Jun-18

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a couple more hunters 63, 64 and 65, missing is a 62. Hint, Hint! to any of you looking to let go of one

From: Keefers
Date: 10-Jun-18

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This is the Howatt Hunter limb color I have and it's the one on the left of my 5 I'm showing in photo's up a few.

From: cueman
Date: 10-Jun-18




Chas, you may recognize that 61 hunter with the cinnamon and green glass. Looks a bit different after refinish, has to be one of my favorite hunters.

From: Keefers
Date: 10-Jun-18

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Love the sculptured riser and all hand done from what I have read from Larry Hatfield in previous threads he made. So glad he is still around helping us with identifying these old gems.

From: Keefers
Date: 10-Jun-18

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Another view and what I meant to say about hand sculptured is if I read this correctly they used a big spindle type sander and can't remember the exact name of that machine but what I understood was they got paid by piece work or each bow . Just held the bow by hand and used the sander to shape. Very talented workers back then and it surely shows in the Howatt line of bows.

From: Bassman Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 10-Jun-18




Referred by many as the best production bows ever made.I have a coronado and hunter.Not much more you could ask for in a recurve bow.

From: Bassman Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 10-Jun-18




Referred by many as the best production bows ever made.I have a coronado and hunter.Not much more you could ask for in a recurve bow.

From: larryhatfield
Date: 10-Jun-18

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Not a spindle sander! Here's a picture. Upright sander that took a 120"X2" belt, and had a 1" round 3" long and a flat plate lower down. You had to garb and form the belt as you sanded and keep the edges from "sawing" into the wood. Only had less than 6 people that ever learned to use those machines. Had to have a lot of confidence. That's why I never quit shaping bows. Usually only me and one other doing that work.

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 10-Jun-18

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Here's a pic of my 64 Hunter by itself. It's in mint condition except for a sight that was on it. One of the most beautiful bows I've ever seen, of any brand. Unfortunately it's too heavy for me. Rated 48#, it's 53.5#@28.75". I shot it once but was sore for a week. I'll have to let it go. It would be great to get a lighter vintage Howatt in its place. Hint hint.

From: Keefers
Date: 10-Jun-18




Thanks Larry for showing that sander and for explaining what style sander that was . My hat's off to you and the other 5 men who learned to use that machine back in the day . Now Larry did I read correctly on another post or somewhere you got paid $4.00 a bow ? Please correct me if I am wrong ! Again Thank you for participating in this post.

From: Keefers
Date: 10-Jun-18




Larry one other question that I am sure has been asked before but hope you don't mind me asking. Why was the knife edge discontinued and was it only on the 63"s or 62's as well?

From: larryhatfield
Date: 10-Jun-18




For a cavalier up to a hi-speed we got 4.50@. Take it out of the press, clean the glue off, tip it out on a 6X36 sears sander, shape with a band saw, tapered rasp and the sears sander stood up using the round roller, and hand sanding to 300 grit. I could do 8-10 bows a day by the end of the first week when I started. That was good money for 1961. Later I did from 10-15 a day. Then I started building machines and we went to hourly wages. When we had a better way of doing shelfs and sight windows we quit doing the knife edge.

From: mangonboat
Date: 10-Jun-18

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Great pics of great bows. My show pony is ths 1964 lefty Hunter...

From: mangonboat
Date: 10-Jun-18

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but this 1960 Hunter is a silent killer.

From: crookedstix
Date: 10-Jun-18




Let's just say it: the Howatt guys were making the Sophia Lorens of bows, while almost everyone else was making Doris Days!

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 10-Jun-18




Mark, how come your 64 has green limbs and mine has black limbs? That's not fair!

Kerry, I think many of those Howatts go beyond human proportions, even Sophia Loren's. More like a comic book fantasy heroine. But if comparing another woman to Sophia, it would be Audrey Hepburn. They actually both had exactly the same proportions. It's just that Sophia had bigger curves!

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 11-Jun-18

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I was shooting the 63 Hunter today, first time. It looks so good in the sun I had to show it again. The wood has an iridescence to it... I don't know if you will see it here. Hope so.

From: Keefers
Date: 11-Jun-18




Shandor that is one of the things I like about those Rosewood Howatts .In different lighting conditions they sometimes look very dark like a dark Cherry or have some gold hues in them . Your's look very pretty in the sun.

From: RonG
Date: 11-Jun-18




Thank you for that info and photos Mr. Hatfield, very interesting.

And Thank you for all the fine bows and your skill in making them.

From: Pdiddly
Date: 11-Jun-18




Shandor...just wanted to let you know that your late 1961 Hunter that has the "slash-7" suffix is identical to the 1962 Hunter that you are lusting after.

The transition to the new all rosewood design from the walnut and rosewood models began in mid to late 1961.

In 1962 the new model continued being made, still with the knife edge...only difference is the "V" suffix replaces the "slash-7".

It's no surprise these bows are highly sought after since there were only 1500 of each model made per year from 1962 and even fewer in 1961-they're rare birds.

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 11-Jun-18




Thanks Pete! That's good to know. Now I only have to lust after another one that's lighter, and one of those 66" Hunters. LOL!

I saw that 61 and 63 Hunter at Traditional Archery Sales. They had just been listed. Apparently Len the owner had just been to an archery meet in Baltimore and picked up some new bows. At 83 he still gets around to find bows. He's very pleasant to deal with. He said he's been selling bows for over 30 years and has only seen such nice Hunters once before.

Hope I don't have to wait 30 years to find more. I'll either be too old to shoot, or not alive. That would make it hard to get any bows.

From: knobby
Date: 11-Jun-18




Prettiest factory bows ever made, in my opinion. Their rosewood is stunning.

From: Knifeguy
Date: 11-Jun-18




I used my new acquisition today for the first shot, you can see it there. Thank you Kerry! Still have to finish the string but I couldn’t wait to run a few more arrows thru it. Wow oh wow! Fast and flat. I like the Howatts that you all have shared and I’ve noticed that this new one for me has a much higher wrist grip with just enough room for the web between my thumb and finger. Lance

From: Renewed Archer
Date: 16-Jun-18

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Thanks, Kenny, for that wonderful Palomar. Got this the other day and I'm blown away by it. One of the easiest bows to shoot well right away I've ever had. Plus... like many of these old Howatts, it's just beautiful. 1961, 69", 35#.

Shandor





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