Found a great stone point the other night hunting bears... while the Bears didn't cooperate, I had to wonder if this hunter's luck was any better in the same spot the many years ago he ventured thru he area we were hunting in...

The other side...

Cool point and well used hands!

Very Nice!! that is part of the find, wondering if this harvested meat for the tribe.

Here in Florida if you find something you had better not say anything because the state will come in and claim it.

I remember finding a lot of arrow heads in Allegany NY 65 years ago.

Great find!

Cool!

Great find. Oh! if only they could talk. >>>----> Ken

Nice find. The story that point can tell!

Deno

I think they can talk, if we listen close enough...

Florida's claims are only in running water aren't they?

Public lands and waterways

There's running water in Florida? :)

Lots now!

If that point could talk we would probably hear some cave wife nagging about hunting too much and spending too much time on equipment.

Cool! If you had to guess, how old do you think that head is?

"How many spears do you need anyway?" says the cave wife.

South Farm,

I'm in the process of trying to make contact with a guy who knows a bit about Montana/Native history to hopefully get an age and style so when I do, I'll let you know!

This was found not too far from the tops of the mountain range we were hunting in. It was lying along a little creek I'm not even sure that runs in mid summer. I just noticed a "rock" that didn't looked like it fit with the others...about a third was buried in the dirt. The place didn't look like a camp site...just a hunting area, or maybe even a route to cross the mountains...

Happy hunting, Jason

I wonder if Cave women lived long enough to reach menopause.

if her stomach was growling she was not bitching to much starvation can change a bad attitude real quick,even a woman.

From what little I know about primitive weapons, I’d say that is a very old point.

"Hey Ugghhh, when are you going to fix that loose rock at the cave entrance!!!"

"For the last time, PUT THE SEAT DOWN!"

Very nice. Does look like a leaf style point. I will look in my Overstreet book to see if I can find an example when I get home.

Guys,

Here's an update in the point I found by an archeologist...

Hi Jason: The point is best categorized as Agate Basin or possibly Lusk. I’m more of a lumper than a splitter on point types, so I would go with Agate Basin. It is an atlatl point as opposed to an arrow point. Radiocarbon dates from organic materials associated with similar point styles range from ca.10,500-8,000 Radiocarbon Years Before Present. Agate Basin points are representative of the terminal Paleoindian Phase. They are generally described as medium to large (5-12 cm), long and slender lanceolate forms with excurvate blades. Cross-sections are generally bi-convex and can be comparatively thick. The widest part of the artifact is the middle to bottom one-third of the blade. The base is typically straight and the edges ground to some extent. Flake removals tend to be random or irregular. The material it is made from appears to be a buff-colored, fine-grained sedimentary quartzite which seems to be a popular material for Agate Basin points in this part of MT (See attached illustrations). In the attached illustration with the two points, the one on the left is from MT City and the one on the right is from the Whitehall area. The point on the left once looked much more like the point on the right, but it broke (probably during hunting) and was re-sharpened (probably on the dart shaft) so it would still function as a point.

Not sure if it will be helpful, but I am also attaching a projectile point chronology chart for your use.

Patrick

Pretty awesome, I think!

Happy hunting, Jason

That point is fluted on one side, at the very least it has heavy basal thinning. Agate Basin points don't have any basal thinning. It certainly appears transitional Paleo. It is difficult to type as it is heavily resharpened. Maybe Angostura?

Hey coohool find rigs :-) JF

Great Find, happy for you!

Thanks for sharing. That is a cool find. Just to think somebody used that thousands & thousands of years ago to procure meat is really neat.

Thanks for sharing, always on the lookout here in OK. John

I'll take that point over a bear anytime. Great find.!!

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