Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


New Grizzly broad heads,,,

Messages posted to thread:
Rigs 26-May-18
Trad15 26-May-18
Biathlonman 26-May-18
Pa Steve 26-May-18
newt 26-May-18
Jwilliam 27-May-18
G.B.K.D 27-May-18
David A. 27-May-18
Bowlim 28-May-18
George D. Stout 28-May-18
Huggins 28-May-18
buddyb 28-May-18
George D. Stout 28-May-18
Jim B 28-May-18
The Lost Mohican 28-May-18
Huggins 28-May-18
David A. 29-May-18
From: Rigs Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 26-May-18




Greetings All,

Was thinking of trying some new stock 155 single bevels.

As a shooter of old stock, I'm curious as to how much work they take to get them scary sharp. I was able to get old stock there, but usually dropped 10-12 grains off of a 190 to accomplish this. Trying to stay as close to 160 grains as possible so if they're easy, could I get by with 155's or do I need to order 185's and get to work?

Love the heads and don't mind the effort but want to make sure the weight is where I need them when done...

Thanks in advance, Jason

From: Trad15
Date: 26-May-18




It doesn’t take much work with the new stock. I get them scary sharp in about 5- 10 minutes with my knee sharpener.

From: Biathlonman
Date: 26-May-18




New ones are close and don't take much to get hunt ready.

From: Pa Steve
Date: 26-May-18




Like previously stated. Newer ones have a better grind and don't take as much effort as the older ones to get sharp.

From: newt
Date: 26-May-18




RMSG - Tom Clum just posted that price of Grizzley BH is going up by $10 /pack soon. Get um at original price quickly if you want them.

From: Jwilliam Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 27-May-18




Excellent broadheads. The factory grind Bill Dunn is putting on them makes it really easy to sharpen the new grizzlies.

From: G.B.K.D
Date: 27-May-18




Footed shaft in Minnesota still has the Grizzlies for 46 and change.

From: David A.
Date: 27-May-18




A couple of years ago, I made the comment the problem with Grizzly bhs is they weren't being made properly and got slammed. It's obvious now the improved design makes sharpening so much easier, Finally, they got the grind right but then Abower, VPA and others took advantage of their second rate bevel and got market share. We have a lot of great bhs to choose from today and the competition is probably what forced Grizzly to up their game.

From: Bowlim
Date: 28-May-18




David, are you talking about the early New Grizzlies, or the original Grizzlies, when mentioning their grind. There was never anything wrong with the old ones. People couldn't sharpen them probably largely because most people aren't all that good at sharpening, and because some of the people who came to the singe blade party after the second Natal study, had no idea what a single blade was and how to deal with it, even if they sharpened reliably in some other situations. Of course anyone who knows how to sharpen is not going to be deterred by any broadhead configuration.

I remember well the questions that came up when people initially moved in mass to Grizzlies, and they were odd things like dealing with the paint which doesn't come to the edge on a double grind. And of course old school COC broadheads normally have a trick by which they can be sharpened in a few strokes with files or carbide, and most people get into a longer relationship with them when they treat these soft steel heads as though they were knives.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 28-May-18




Some friends used them in the late 80's, and I had them in my quiver in 1992 when I shot my buck with the old lemonwood bow. I didn't have a problem getting them sharp enough to hunt with. I ended up taking my buck with a Howard Hill head...same weight as the Grizzly and flew the same. It was just the one I pulled from the quiver on that morning.

I don't shave with my broadheads so I suppose they weren't shaving sharp to some folk, but they would cleanly take hair off my left arm; which by the way is usually bald during hunting season. ) Once they got popular...thanks Ed Ashby, the price has kept going up exponentially.

From: Huggins
Date: 28-May-18




There was a thread a while back about the actual weight of grizzlies. I have a couple packs of the 155 grain that average in the 160’s after sharpening.

From: buddyb
Date: 28-May-18




Here's a great way to get those broadheads hair popping sharp. http://www.grizzly.com/products/8-Razor-Sharp-Edgemaking-System/G5937

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 28-May-18




Huggins, most of us never weighed any broadheads back in the day. We believed what was written on the package. Whether it was off some never showed up when we shot them. At hunting distance, even a difference of twenty grains won't show much in trajectory.

From: Jim B
Date: 28-May-18




The old Grizzlies like the El Grande 190's had a terrible grind.Many didn't even have the bevel roughed out to an edge and they were not mild steel but harder than most broadheads on the market,in the high 50's RC.They were tough to work on.I still have some.There were heavy burrs on every edge,where the parts were stamped out.

Before Grizzly sold,the 200's came out and were much improved,bevel and edge wise.The new ones are even better and have an improved finish.

From: The Lost Mohican
Date: 28-May-18




I have liked them from Elburg to Abel to Sean S to Zipper! So simple so deadly....when sharp. TLM

From: Huggins
Date: 28-May-18




I was just referring to the original question. Wanting to stay as close to 160 grains as possible, I would definitely go with the 155 grain. I love the grizzly single bevel. I have 4 or 5 packs purchased within the last couple years of the 125 and 155 grain. They all are just a little heavier than marked, even after sharpening.

From: David A.
Date: 29-May-18




I was referring to the model(s) immediately preceeding the current redesign. I really don't know why there is so much defense of that bevel. It was inferior to the current redesign. Yes, I also could get them sharp, but it wasn't done right. I get the same flak when I criticize the shelf rest choices we have today. Some say the Bear weather rest is fine. No, it's not, IMO. They are all inferior poor designed but yes they work ok.

It's just not good enough. And the blinds today, same story. OK, it's obvious hardly anything pleases me design wise. Maybe some one will say the same about my shooting methods, but trust they came from a perfectionist. I guess when the critics of perfectionism or at least "hard standards" go to an eye surgeon or even a dentist they are happy if the doctor is somewhat of a perfectionist...

Back to bhs, VPAs and Abowyer are pretty darn good IMO, so it's not like it's impossible to make a really good bh. I still have some compaints about grizzly bhs, but I guess that's enough criticism...





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