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Which came first

Messages posted to thread:
George D. Stout 24-May-18
casekiska 24-May-18
Matthew Wilson 24-May-18
4nolz@work 24-May-18
Will tell 24-May-18
bodymanbowyer 24-May-18
JusPassin 24-May-18
jaz5833 24-May-18
RymanCat 24-May-18
GF 24-May-18
Draven 24-May-18
RonG 24-May-18
Jon Stewart 24-May-18
bodymanbowyer 24-May-18
fdp 24-May-18
Tim Finley 25-May-18
casekiska 25-May-18
JusPassin 26-May-18
Tim Finley 27-May-18
al snow 27-May-18
Tim Finley 28-May-18
Redheadtwo 28-May-18
From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 24-May-18




Picked up a rock to throw at his mouthy neighbor, and cut his thumb on it. After dancing around and crying out some primitive descriptive adjectives of the day, it was...VOILA!!!

From: casekiska
Date: 24-May-18




The first dude to put a stone tip on an arrow realized he had created an advantage over his hostile neighbor.

We have him to thank for starting the arms race!

From: Matthew Wilson Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 24-May-18




Probably handed primitive woman the days kill. She looked at it, ticked off she had nothing to dress it with and chucked a rock at her primitive old man. Rock hit him in the head and a sharp piece flew back by her. She looked at it and took to cleaning dinner. In a daze it came to him......."I found a keeper!" Or somethin like that. Matthew

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 24-May-18




Supplied by Aliens

From: Will tell
Date: 24-May-18




Every one thinks cave men were stupid, how many on here could survive using what they had on hand. It wouldn't take to much sense to figure out a spear with a sharp point was better for killing.

From: bodymanbowyer
Date: 24-May-18




I've wondered the same thing. JF

From: JusPassin Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 24-May-18




Sharp points on spears should have been a pretty easy invention; but making a little spear fly from a bow, that is much more of a mystery.

From: jaz5833
Date: 24-May-18




If you work outdoors with any frequency, it's not too uncommon to perform a task that will somehow break open a rock.

Even a rock rolling down a hill and striking another, might result in a break. On a piece of chert or obsidian, the natural result would be to notice the sharp edge, and more importantly, how it happened. Some trial and error with intentional breaking, probably led to knapping.

From: RymanCat
Date: 24-May-18




Nope bone I think was first from Woolly Monmouth or Saber tager.

From: GF
Date: 24-May-18




Teeth are sharp; probably noticed that.

Probably also cut their feet/ hands, etc. on sharp rocks, shells, etc. and oticex that the freshly broken ones were sharpest of all.

But we know that stone knives/hatchets/scrapers came along before bows did, ‘cuz you can’t make a good bow without decent tools.

Besides - stone points are found with atlatl darts which pre-date bows and arrows, and are found with spears that pre-date the atlatl....

Maybe somebody figured out that even the littlest points they made were still useful if you just tied them onto a skinny enough stick..

From: Draven
Date: 24-May-18




I think they knew to make stone "knives" way before bow, arrows and arrow points. The ancestor of Dr. Ashby looked how easy his stone flake is cutting the meat and how far the hardened through fire wood arrow point was penetrating and it hit him. He went in his tent, he made the arrow point and went hunting. He came with the biggest prey and the tribe made him Chief. Since then women are falling for the guy with pointy stones ...

From: RonG
Date: 24-May-18




They were running them off cliffs long before they shot something at them.

Tools obviously came before sharp weapons.

Now the real truth is that momma gave poppa a list of chores like painting the cave, mowing the field and he had to do it before he could join the fellas at the local neanderthal reunion.

he told her that he would do it when he got back and she picked up a sharp rock and hit him in the head and made a big gash, so she kept the stone and found others like it and marketed them as husband control devices........made a big hit!!!!!

Hey You Asked!!!!!!!

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 24-May-18




Around 64,000 years ago Box. Found in Africa. I wonder how they figured out how to heat treat rock before knapping them. My guess is the rock blew up from being in a fire and they seen how sharp the rocks were.

From: bodymanbowyer
Date: 24-May-18

bodymanbowyer's embedded Photo



I don't know, but they sure are cool. This was knapped by Mike Cook, Michigan. JF

From: fdp
Date: 24-May-18




Actually there are some stone flake arrowheads that still exist in museums in Europe.

The first arrow heads were nothng more than crudely ahsped stone flakes that were attached to an arrow shaft with natural materials.

From: Tim Finley Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 25-May-18




Bodymanbowyer that is a beautiful stone point ! They used points for tools before the arrow and I think they just put 2 and 2 together passing it from tribe to tribe . I would just like to know what the earliest evidence of the bow and arrow is .

From: casekiska
Date: 25-May-18




No one knows for certain who invented the bow and arrow, or when. There are various theories as to who where, and when but none of them are able to be proved conclusively.

Here in Wisconsin the WI Historical Society anthropologists believe the bow and arrow first appeared in this area amongst the native American culture about 500 AD.

From: JusPassin Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 26-May-18




What I find intriguing is how the bow showed up in native cultures world wide.

From: Tim Finley Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 27-May-18




500 AD. doesn't sound like a very long time that's only 1500 years, I thought maybe 15,000 years . I guess Wisconsin people don't catch on to a fad very fast !

From: al snow
Date: 27-May-18




15,000 years ago, North Americans were hunting huge animals with spears. No bows and arrows. 500-600 A.D. is the solidly accepted time frame for the development of the bow and arrow in what we now call the United States. The great majority of "arrowheads" found in America are actually spear points and atlatl points, or knives. The atlatl was the primary weapon/hunting tool for thousands of years between the spear and the bow.

From: Tim Finley Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 28-May-18




From what I read they figure the bow and arrow to be about 15,000 years old . If natives came across the land bridge they came from Europe ,they must have had bows in Europe by then. Where do archeologist have evidence of where the first bows were used ? 500 AD. is close to the Viking era .

From: Redheadtwo
Date: 28-May-18




There is mention of bows and arrows in Genesis 27:3.





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