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Help me choose.

Messages posted to thread:
Red 20-May-18
Bowmania 20-May-18
George D. Stout 20-May-18
Kent Alan 20-May-18
RymanCat 20-May-18
tonto59 20-May-18
GF 20-May-18
Kodiak 20-May-18
GF 20-May-18
fdp 20-May-18
From: Red
Date: 20-May-18




Hi guys I posted a couple weeks ago about setting up a new bow with arrows and this is what I come up with.The bow is a 58 inch recurve 53# at 28 and I draw 27.What I come up with are two arrow setups.The 1st is an Easton power flight carbon full length with 175 grain tip weighing a total of 490 gr.The 2nd is a Easton 2117 30 inches also with 175 grain tip for a total weight of 565.Both fly very well the carbon shoots a little flatter, but the aluminum is a little more quiet.Can't choose what one I like better so I thought I'd ask the experts what you would go with .Thanks Joe

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 20-May-18




I'd go with a 2016 or .500. Sorry I can't help, but I don't know how close to center you're cut.

Bowmania

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 20-May-18




Agree with Bowmania. I don't like full length arrows, or even 3" over my draw. I draw 27" as well, and I would use 28 1/2" 2016 with 125/145 grain tips. That's is still around 480+ grains and plenty of zip from the get-go. You can also make them very quiet.

From: Kent Alan
Date: 20-May-18




Bowmania and George D. Stout X 2

2016s cut to 28" with 100-125 gr point should serve you well. Not saying 2117s can't work, but I usually use 2117s for 65# or so.

Nothing personal and not trying to criticize what anyone else does, but...I never got the whole using a shaft that's way too stiff and then using a heavy point or leaving shaft way too long to compensate. God and Christ Bless

From: RymanCat
Date: 20-May-18




When in doubt get both. If can can swing it.

From: tonto59
Date: 20-May-18




I know some hunters that hunt with a selfbow. That like to use a longer arrow then most. I have always left mine one inch longer then my draw. When using broad heads.

From: GF
Date: 20-May-18




Based on my DL and DW being really close to those of the OP, I’d concur with George, Bowmania and Kent. If I were to offer anything by way of modifications, I’d say start at 29” if you want to shoot 125 grain points, and then just nibble them down in length ‘til they’re right on the money.

I have a pair of #55 recurves and I shot arrows that were about #10-#15 (or even #20??) for years - now I’m tuned in with 2016s, and guess what? They’re almost as light as the light shafts and almost as tough as the heavies.

Then, depending on your bow and your release, you might even find that you can drop down to a 1916. If you want speed, maybe 1916s with 100 grains up front.

For carbons, I’m more dialed in with a #55@28” LB - there, I find myself overspined with 31”Beman ICS 500 (+145) or a 30” GT Trad Blem 5575 (+145), but a bit underspined with a GT Trad 600 at 29”... Entrada 600 was dead nuts (+125) at 28”. I think that last one might be a bit weak out of the recurves, but the 500s and the 5575 are definitely still stiff, even with a long (2”) Al insert in the GTs.

Good news is that they still fly about straight enough as long as I use plenty of feather, but once you get used to seeing dead quiet flight and being able to stack bare shafts right in with fletched at 20 yards, it’s kinda irritating to know that your spine is off....

From: Kodiak
Date: 20-May-18




I'd usually suggest a 2016... but I've recently started shooting carbons again and I gotta say, they're really a great arrow.

From: GF
Date: 20-May-18




And as for choosing between the two...

490 grains is more than adequate for deer hunting. I like the fact that I feel like I know exactly what I need with the Aluminums, but for stumping and 3D, the carbons are cheaper (unless you never, ever miss, I suppose).

JMO... for deer hunting, you almost need a reason to go much over 450 grains. If your bow is too loud or the shaft won’t tune without more weight, then sure. Otherwise, I’m not sure I’d be willing to leave the speed on the table. Others here will disagree.... and it’s not that I don’t partially agree with them; I just like that flatter trajectory...

From: fdp
Date: 20-May-18




Actually for that draw weight, at that draw length Easton 1820's would be a better choice than either of the other 2. They weight enough that you don't need the heavy point weight, or excessive length, and they are correctly spined.

2117's are stiff unless that bow is set up (not originally built) with a way past center riser. 2117's are 77lbs.. You didn't say what spine the Powerflights are but .600's would be the correct spine.





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