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Pin nocks and stumpin?

Messages posted to thread:
Brian waters 15-May-18
George D. Stout 15-May-18
George D. Stout 15-May-18
Brian waters 15-May-18
George D. Stout 15-May-18
Brian waters 15-May-18
Viper 15-May-18
George D. Stout 15-May-18
GF 15-May-18
Brian waters 15-May-18
tradmt 15-May-18
Rick Barbee 15-May-18
Viper 15-May-18
charley 15-May-18
Viper 15-May-18
76aggie 16-May-18
flyguysc 16-May-18
From: Brian waters
Date: 15-May-18




Ive switched to pin nocks due to damaged shafts from grouping. I havent been stumpin yet, but its my favorite pass time. Have a new setup in the works for my stumpin needs. Wondering if i should use regular nocks for my carbons or give pin nocks a whirl. Anyone use pin nocks and stump? They stick pretty good on the bushing, but dont wanna replace a nock after every shot. Never had 1 pop off target shooting, but they do dissenegrate upon a shaft impact.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 15-May-18




I would try them. Can't imagine bringing out a product that won't at least take some thumping. I'm sure it has been tested a time or two. You're more likely to shatter a shaft than the nock, but I suppose they could pop off now and again. Just carry extras with you, and use bright ones that are easy to find.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 15-May-18




Maybe this will help:

From: Brian waters
Date: 15-May-18




Once again, thanks george. Was gonna try them, unless someone posted lost nocks after every stump.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 15-May-18




Rick Barbee went to them and loves 'em. They will also save those shafts from the damage of a nock it from behind. More glance-off shots, less ruined shafts.

From: Brian waters
Date: 15-May-18




I know, ive busted maybe 40 nocks this year so far. O arrows trashed.

From: Viper
Date: 15-May-18




Guys -

Pin nocks might arguably be the most concentric type nock available. I will never use them.

On average I go through a 100 pack bag of nocks per year, mostly during the indoor season. Trashing an aluminum arrow with a std "G" or similar nock + insert is next to impossible. But I'm not stupid enough to use carbon arrows indoors.

Start shooting off pin nocks and sooner or later, the pin gets bent and the concentricity is gone. (I've seen tuned bare shafts with slightly bent pins throw arrows several FEET off a target at 20 yards.)

Over the years, I've robinhooded a number of arrows with conventional nocks, but yet to do one with "G" type nocks, even though the insert cones look like they've been through a war.

If I were a 1300+ level FITA shooter, the extra level of concentricity might be a factor, but since I'm not, not buying in to the hype. The current issue push-in nocks (with inserts) are more than adequate.

Viper out.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 15-May-18




It's just about choices, that's all. Lots of folks are taking to the pin nocks for one reason or another. I'm still one of those crude old guys who like glue on nocks...another choice.

From: GF
Date: 15-May-18




Personally, my biggest issue with push-in nocks has come from not a surplus of accuracy, but a shortage...

When I’ve hit a rock or a re-bar leg in a 3 D, they’ve gone “down the pipe” and split the nock-end of the shaft. The glue-in adapters seem to address that issue....

Pin nocks do the same thing, but glue-one sure are a lot cheaper!

Are the glue-in adapters still a Thing?

From: Brian waters
Date: 15-May-18




Viper, you have a good point. 1 negative to g style nocks is ive had several break off at the bushing with the shaft of the nock still inside. Those are a booger to deal with. Which is why i switched to pin nocks. To each thier own, thats why theres so many different options open to us all. Thank you both George and Tony for your words of wisdom, always a blessing.

From: tradmt
Date: 15-May-18




I have never used them, looks like a great idea as long as they snap tight enough.

Shoot one into a tree and see how it does.

From: Rick Barbee
Date: 15-May-18




The ones I have fit every bit as tight (maybe tighter) as any push in nock I have ever used.

Don't know how long I've been using them now (maybe a month), but they have already saved me from ruining several arrows. Yes, I robbinhood .25" O.d. X .166" I.D. arrows pretty regularly.

Haven't lost a nock, or bent a pin yet, and I don't baby my arrows.

Rick

From: Viper
Date: 15-May-18




Brian -

I've have that happen once or twice too (literally, once or twice). Just haven't had too much of a problem removing the shank. You push it all the way through with a punch, remove the head, drop out the broken shank and replace the head and nock. Easier to do than to type.

Hope you didn't mind the counterpoint, yes, there are options and I think all sides need to be shown. Neither pins nocks, nor anything else is a fix-all.

A dunno, when i was shooting mostly indoors, slapping arrows and busted nocks were a given. I can't see why guys shooting in the 290's don't have the same issues.

Viper out.

From: charley
Date: 15-May-18




What is a "G" nock? I'm probably behind the time's, shooting one and don't even know it. Just want to know what it is and why it's tough. Thanks Charley

From: Viper
Date: 15-May-18

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Charlie -

It's a push-in type of nock, typically used on smaller diameter arrows. Although, I have then on aluminums up to 20xx series. H, X and Super nocks (and a bunch of others) are just variations on the same theme.

The nocks themselves are pretty small and the insert does a pretty good job of protecting the shaft.

Viper out.

From: 76aggie
Date: 16-May-18




After seeing this post yesterday, I finally ordered some pin nocks. I had been thinking about doing so for a couple of weeks after Rick Barbee posted about them and he was kind enough to exchange a few private replies with me and answer some of my questions. Really excited about their arrival and how beneficial they may be for me.

From: flyguysc Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 16-May-18




I like them been using them for a couple weeks. think that the snap on part is so the arrow will stay on the string when shooting three under.As long as they side up & down the serving with out torquing the arrow shaft.





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