From: RJH1
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Date: 10-May-18 |
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gold tip trad 400, 100 grain brass insert 125-150 tip. That is where I would start
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From: fdp
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Date: 10-May-18 |
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Depending on how you have the centershot set up. and the point weight you want to shoot, anything from a 2016 to a 2117 aluminum. In carbon somewhere between 400 or 500. In wood somewhere between 50-54 and 64-69.
The Satori riser has a lot of centershot adjustment, so you can shoot a very wide range.
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From: GF
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Date: 10-May-18 |
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You’d be hard-pressed to go wrong with the advice Frank just gave you; shooting similar poundage but 2” shorter, I find that a 2016 with 125 up front is a very good match for my Howatt Hunter (Dacron & a tab). You might need a bit stiffer arrow, but if all you have to do is turn a screw to move your sideplate out... Easy - peasy!
And FWIW - Stu’s spine calculator has been dead nuts for me; at least with aluminum... it has the GPI for probably every size Easton ever made, so you can dial in your shaft selection and get very close to the net weight.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 10-May-18 |
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30", 2016 = 318 grains. 20 grain insert, 145 grain tip about 20 gr for feathers, nock and glue, gets you to just about 500 grains. As fdp said, you have lots of lateral play with that bow so you are very open to different spines.
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From: Timbukto
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Date: 10-May-18 |
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So it looks like you are drawing 55 pounds. I would go 2018 with 145- 175 up front.
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From: texbow2
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Date: 10-May-18 |
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I shoot 55@27. I use a 400 Easton axis 30" with 100gr insert and 200gr point, right at 600gr. I imagine you could use the same and be able to tune with 125-200gr points. If you don't want that much point weight, as stated above you should be able to get there with 2018 if you prefer aluminum
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From: Kent Alan
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Date: 10-May-18 |
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Kinda agree with Timbukto on the 2018s, although not quite sure you'd need such a heavy point; 30" with maybe 125 gr up front could turn out nicely...2213s could do well also. I'd go with the heavier point weight for something like 2217s or 2020s. God and Christ Bless
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From: Kent Alan
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Date: 10-May-18 |
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***meant to say 2117, not 2217***
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From: Timbukto
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Date: 11-May-18 |
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Yes 2213 same spine as 2018. Not as tuff of a arrow.
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From: GF
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Date: 11-May-18 |
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I just ran the numbers on a 30" arrow through Stu's calculator... 2117 ought to put you within a coupla pounds (assuming 125 grains up front). And just north of 500 grains.
2018 shaves about a dozen pounds off of the spine rating and adds 10 grains.
2215 is right in the ballpark and 9 GPP.
2216 + 145 is about Dead Nuts at a bit over 10 GPP.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 11-May-18 |
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Well, a 2213 is lighter than a 1916 in mass weight, so you would struggle to get to the 500+ grains you seek. A 2018 would be fine with 125 to 145 at your arrow length and bow weight. The 2117 at 30" with 175 to 200 up front should work as well and give more mass.
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From: Linecutter
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Date: 11-May-18 |
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30 inch arrow, 145-175gr point, either a 2018 or a 2117. Combo of either shaft and point weight would have you well within your arrow weight requirement. You would just have to see which combo would shoot best from your bow. DANNY
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From: Hermon
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Date: 11-May-18 |
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Have any room to trim the 250's?
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From: RymanCat
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Date: 11-May-18 |
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150 heritage should sail sweet but like the 2018 too. try 60-65 wood also.
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From: fdp
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Date: 11-May-18 |
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What do you mean when you say "shows weak"? Are you trying to tune by nock orientation in the target, Are you trying to tune by watching arrow flight, or are you shooting at a vertical line?
The first 2 options are the worst. With option 1 being the worst of all.
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From: fdp
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Date: 12-May-18 |
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Something is a miss. I had the ILF target version of that riser here at the house for nearly a year playing with a new set of Hoyt limbs on it. Ad I was able to shoot a huge reange of arrow spines from it. My draw length is similar enough to yours to be a non-issue.
With all the CS adjustment that there is in that riser, Ican't see how the arrows won't tune. My first guess would be that there is an alignment issue.
That said, individual nuamces of an archer can play a role in spine. So, the answer is to take the arrow that is shooting the closes to the vertical line, and keep decreasing the point weight to increase spine until it shoot corrctly.
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