This is something I have wondered about for a while. What do you feel a simple, solid, well built osage self bow is worth? What would you be willing to pay? This has NOTHING to do with me setting a price or selling bows. I am just curious what folks are willing to pay.

That's a good question, Chris. I've often wondered the same thing. The prices I've seen on them have been quite varied, but so has the quality.

In that niche or 'market', objectively, I think I have an idea what mine would be worth... but I want so badly NOT to sell them, that I wouldn't want to for twice that price :^)

One with all the bells and whistle's? Tip over lays, Cut in shelf, Wrapped leather handle,Decorated or carved riser. ext. Or a true primitive style Osage bow?

You tell me, Don. List out your dream bow and tell me what you'd pay for it. This is all in fun.

Simple, solid, well-built, he said.

I don’t think there is an answer for that.

I mean.... even if you were a gifted bowyer, do you think you could offer any kind of warranty on something that’s “9/10ths Broke” when you send it out the door?

And as a buyer, would you WANT a bow that has probably either been drawn past your DL (which I understand you NEVER want to do) or has never been tested at that length?

I think if a guy were a real artisan - like the Japanese sword-makers who’ve been declared National Treasures - then he could sell a lot of bows that would end up a wall-hangers, but then you’re selling Collectors, not Shooters.

Anyway....

I’m just thinking about it, and I don’t imagine that anyone has made a business out of selling un-backed bows since glass became an option. Personally, I would be more likely to take a class on DIY selfies than to buy one finished out. Then when it does break (as I understand they ALL do, if you shoot them), it’s time to try again, so.... back to the old drawing board. Or at least the draw knife...

Well I own three self bows made by Badger. And Two of them have all the bells and whistles. Two of them are 50# and the other is 35#. It really amazed me at how well they shot for an all wood bow. I got lucky and won the bow in that auction they had for Dire Wolf on here. Then I got luckier. And Steve threw in two more bows. I would pay $450.00 for one with all the bells and whistle's. And a primitive style bow I would pay 250.00 for.

Or whatever... ;^)

I suppose I could have worded that differently :)

A guy that sells them around here gets $600 for his best ones. Straight, cut shelf, tip overlays. I don't think they have a wrapped grip though. He does actually give you a year warranty too. They are very nice bows

Also I think the guy who won IBO worlds, was shooting one

I agree, he knows how to build a good shooting bow. No doubt. That seems like a fair price for what he will deliver.

I used to sell my bows for 500 to 1000.... 20 years ago, I think the amount of work that goes into a real well made bow,, is more than most people want to pay for,, or more than the market will bear, its like a work of art,, a funtional sculpture,, so its really hard to put a price on it,, but it boils down to what the market will bear,, when I sell a painting,, there is a price I think it is worth and then what someone will pay for it,,I guess I dont have an answer, but a well made bow is worth more than most want to pay,,,but the amount the bow sells for does not reflect the real worth,,or value,,

I was reading that back in the day, a sinew backed bow with 10 arrows would trade for a horse and blanket

I agree they are like a work of art. But if your looking for a simple hunting bow. What is a fair price for a simple self bow?

Matt, I appreciate your feedback. But most of that is far from true and most of it is derived from folks selling bows who have no business doing such. Good bows aren't 9/10's broke. Do they all break? Nope. Some will and the few that will are very predictable to the trained eye, but again if its well made the chances of owning and shooting it for decades is quite high.

I have seen them selling from 500 to over 1000. There were several vendors selling them at O-Jam always are. I doubt any have it as their sole source of income, however there likely is one somewhere.

The most I've paid for a good self bow was $400. Bought it about 15 years ago, but don't shoot it much. More time, effort and skill goes into building a good self bow than a glass laminated bow, I think, but regardless of who makes it, a self bow is just not as durable as a glass laminated bow.

$400 is about the top of what I will pay regardless of who makes it or how many bells and whistles it has. Granted, that might not be paying the bowyer very much per hour.

Great answer, Jerry. That's what I was looking for.

Anyone who would pay over a thousand dollars for a laminated bow, shouldn't have a problem paying that for a good selfbow. There's a lot more work that goes into a quality selfbow, not like gluing things together and shaping it. And yes, I know there are other design thingies that go into laminated bows, but they ain't selbows with the bowyer putting so much of himself in it.

It all boils down to how much you have, and are willing to spend. At one time, the cost wouldn't have been so much of an issue..even an imported guitar of quality is near a thousand bucks. Now with S.S. as my main "pension", I don't have the wherewithal to spend a lot. I don't mind paying for a quality item if I really want it. I would pay more for a quality selfbow than I would for a laminated one because I know what goes into it.

Most of John Strunks bows are selling in the range of 600-1000.

I've scoured the web over and haven't found anything "respectable" for under $600, with most getting 700-1200.

My opinion on the matter? You cant make a self bow that is worth $1200. No matter what its wearing or what it looks like or what name is on the limb. I fully believe a good range is $350-700 max. And for $700 it better be perfect all around. Right from the fit and finish to the functionality.

The last self bow I got I traded 100 hand tied flies and a fly rod and reel. The other one I paid $100.00 with 6 Bamboo arrows on the ads on this site. I would pay up to $300.00 for a plain Jane self bow but I'm pretty thrifty.lol

Simple Osage selfbow $250.

I loved that snake/egg bow... but you left out the picture after it broke. :(

There's too much work that goes into a real good selfbow... osage staves are selling for over $100 several places... it's just nearly impossible to set a price. I see nice bows selling for $300-$500 and some selling for over a thousand, but that's just the way things are. You are better off making your own or getting a friend to give you one. :)

George, it is hard defining what goes into a laminated bow. I haven't looked where we stand currently, but 10 or more years ago, nobody had written a good book on making a laminated bow, that is as good as say the Bowyers bibles, there were thousands of guys making self bows, and very few making laminated bows. There are no formulas or designs generally shared by the better makers. I recently read two new books, and they don't get er done either, though there are improvements.

The technology around laminated bows does allow you to set up a production line and hire relatively unskilled people to work a station in a production setting. But that means nothing relative to how complex the whole process of understanding what needs to be done; inovating; making tooling and fixture; and producing a truly superior bow time after time that hits all it's numbers and doesn't have problems built into it. If you really study decent bows by exceptional builders, they are often way off the mark, showing how complex the whole thing can be.

There is a lot of pixies and fairies nonsense around making things by hand out of wood. As one of the great cabinetmaking hand woodworking teachers, Franz Klauzs said in his seminal video on dovetails "Hand work is production". It only involves a lot of soul searching and "putting of oneself into it" if you don't know what you are doing. Tim Baker can crank out a basic self-bow using a bandsaw in a mater of minutes. And used to do that demo, I understand, at primitive shows, to encourage people to give it a try.

Some well known reputable makers are worth more.But there are alot of "see one,do one,teach one,sell one" bowyers out there.

Well known just means you promote yourself with ads and articles, it doesn't mean you build quality bows worth more money. The best bows I've handled, gawked at and shot are from fellas nobody knows, unless you know them :)

Cutting a dovetail in by hand has nothing in common with building self bows. Its no different than building a doghouse. It requires zero feel, zero foresight, zero planning and contemplation. You measure, you cut, you glue each and every time. Every stave is different than the last. If you think you can attack each and every one the same way, you are fooling yourself and will fail more than you succeed.

Or online ;)

Good call Mike. Ads, articles or on-line. But most don't last long on-line because they get slap back and go away. I'm sure you can think of a few examples.

the 9/10's broke comment is generally accurate , it refers to the draw length , most self bows cannot be safely drawn 10% past there given draw length without risk of damage

The whole online experience has deteriorated from enthusiasm and sharing knowledge to pettiness-it has mirrored Society in general.I consider the glory days of selfbow building to be in the past.Nowadays if a bowyer sold a bow that broke the buyer would likely start negative threads on 6-7 different forums.Its no wonder bowyers have backed off.

Mike I fully believe the glory days are right now, in regards to quality and performance, not numbers of people building them. I have read all the old books and studied some of the old bowyers from the 30s through the 90s. Better bows are being made now, no question about it. Some is better material and some is technique. I have talked to enough old bowyers that agree to say its probably true. Steve (Badger) will tell you for sure we are in our hay days, And he has been at it for a very long time.

Mike, you will be amazed at some of the bows the 'new kids' are making at MoJam.

Even though I don't sell bows I act like I do when I am building a bow. I set up certain criteria for what I call an every day bow.

1st, I don't believe in 9/10 broke I believe in 9/10 before you leave the elastic range. In other words it is just starting to take some set.

2nd It must be a good piece of wood, none of us are clairvoyants but we should do all we can to make sure the wood is as safe as can be expected. Of the right species and quality.

3rd, Balanced to where you are well within the normal range of knocking points for your arrow.

if this basic criteria is met and nothing more I would say about 350.00 Handle wraps, backings, exceptional craftsmanship on the handle and nock finishes etc. I would say it could go up to about $700.00 and still be a good deal.

If I were selling bows or anything else for money I would not base it on how long it takes me, rather I would base it on how long it should take me if I were journeymen level craftsman at that trade and had the proper tools needed. $50.00 an hour is not too much based on how long it should take. I might end up charging $10.00 an hour because I was slow but thats my problem.

I figure 8 hours for a bow start to finish and $100.00 in materials for a basic bow. Board bows would be about 1/3 of that.

$500.00 and up..

$600 minimum, no frills and worth every penny. Jawge

It takes me 8 hours just to put a finish, leather, and string on a bow. I'd be working for $3 an hour again :^)

I spend 30 hours at least on a bow. It is a labor of love. Jawge

When I started making good but plain selfbows 20 or so years ago I sold them for $150, as I got a lot better and added more bells and whistles I jumped the price for a BBO or osage bow to $300 and never went higher. All the $300 bows had burl wood tip overlays and most had burl wood handles with a leather wrap.

If a customer wanted snake skins it was the cost of the skins and $50 to put them on. A copperhead backed bow would be $450 usually.

I put a year warranty on them but fixed or replaced any that had a problem or broke down the road, sometimes as much as 5 or more years. I did the same for the freebies I gave away.

And no, I don't sell bows anymore, the fear of a liability lawsuit and old age shut me down.

Jeff it may take you 8 hours for that portion. But, I've seen what becomes of that 8 hours and you, my friend, are a top shelf craftsman in every regard. VERY few people sell bows made at your level, very few.

Steve, that was a great explanation of the 9/10ths thing. I wouldn't hunt with equipment that is 9/10ths broke.

GOOD THREAD!

This was on of my $450 bows;

Great price on a great bow, Eric. Those CH skins can cost a SMALL fortune nowadays.

500 will get you a dandy. I have some that cost a lot more and some a lot less. They can get to have a lot of hours in them which should dictate the price but doesn't seem to. Character of the wood can be a factor. Some have what I call magic wood which makes them priceless. Rooty

Eight hours if probably less than what it takes most good bowyers to make a bow, start to finish, if they cut the trees, split and cure the wood themselves.

Then there are the character bows and gimmick bows. I like the latter.

The tube itself is threaded in my most recent experiment. Threads look ragged, but they are not. Poor photo.

I can't help you with the question you asked. But from a non talented guy always wanting to buy a self bow, I can say that my biggest fear was to spend hundreds of dollars and have it break. There is much less change of a laminated glass bow do that.

Early this year I finally bought a used Osage self bow. The craftsmanship to me is very different to any high end laminated bow I ever purchased. With laminated bows you look at glue lines, wood figure and finish work; with my self bow I imagine a stave that got 'whittled' down into longbow. Its hard to imagine the time and effort that goes into making one.

My fear is still that one day it will break; but that inner feeling of bending limbs of a hunk of wood and casting a wood arrow is amazing. And it blows my mind how fast a self bow can shoot.

Jim, I buy all my staves and consider what I pay a bargain for as much work as they put into harvesting and splitting the staves. I have a lot of respect for the guys who supply us bowyers with wood.

Thanks Chris, shut up now please :^)

That's a nice one, Eric.

I kept track of some of them a few years back. I don't get in a hurry. I take my time because I enjoy what I'm doing, try to make each one better than the last, yet work in a straightforward manner, when at all possible :^) If all goes according to plan, a basic osage selfbow, or a BBO bow, or a laminated wood/glass composite... all take me somewhere around 25 hours to make.

Now that said, I once kept track of a belligerent sinew backed osage recurve with sturgeon skin on it that took over twice that long. It was just shy of 60 hours, not counting cutting the tree and roughing it in, and took me months to make. We became quite close, and deadly, during our torrid affair.

Amen to that Steve. I only pretend to be almost best friends with my osage guy just to get better prices and service :)

Surf & Turf... get it?

I've pondered this same question many times...

I'd say anywhere from $250 up.

People often ask, "How long does it take to make a bow"? I answer like this: Well, you take the truck & a chain saw & go cut an Osage tree, then split it, take off the bark & sapwood, paint the ends & let it sit for two years... After that... About a week.

Since it is a truly hand-crafted item, many people don't understand what it takes to make. The "store bought" mentality, I guess. I do it for the enjoyment of the process. I finally learned to look on local Craigslist for "hedge corner posts" which are widely available around here. Hedge is considered firewood, but lasts a LONG time in the ground. $25 is a reasonable price for a straight Osage log 10' long. I'll never run out of staves!

If selling need to add the 11% FET tax also.

my thought. for home decor one that looks true native would be worth buying for 100.00- 500.00. for one to hunt maybe 150.00 just to see if I liked a self bow, I don't think paying big money to hunt with a selfbow would do anything for me. I mean it still wouldn't be a true selfbow if I didn't build it as in the word self. I think a plane Jane rough looking selfbow maid by my self would trump any I cold buy. just my thought

bigdog, self bow means made from one piece of wood. It has nothing to do with who made it.

It's an odd definition and easily confused...one could look at it as.. "One self paid for that self bow" :)

It's not an odd definition. It's just an old one.

Ok thanks for clearing that up I figured self bow meant self made primitive was one piece of woodbow.??

Self-bow means self-backed, that is, with no type of backing added that enhances the durability, performance, or overall integrity of the bow.

The bow I posted about above is not a selfbow, because it's a backed bow.

Selfbow prices! Not enough. I get 500-600 dollars. Takes about 20-30 hrs time from start to building string and finish. Staves $100 . And yes I have harvested and the wood cutters earn every penny! Bells and whistles are great but a well made selfbow that performs great does not get its salt unfortunately. It does not matter how many world championships your bows have won. I build them cause I love to build selfbows. It's my hobby that does not pay for its self , that's what I love to do. If it shoots like a dog it's a dog. There is a whole lot of dogs out there. That's what keeps the prices down. Bad images from bowyers that are not quite there yet. We all started there though. At least I did. I built quite a few dogs in my time. If you get into making selfbows for a living and want to make decent money you are getting into the wrong business! Meantime let's make some dust and build some more bows. Arvin

Well said, Arvin.

Pearly, your stave prices just went up.

I agree with the statements about harvesting staves. When you do several hundred in a 2 month span you feel it.

I've only sold a few selfbows. I charged less than I should have. They had contoured wrapped handles, horn overlays, and skins. My hesitation with selling bows is if they break I feel like I should replace it. Then I will be making 2 bows for the low price I already charge.

A mans time and expertise in building a good bow of any kind should be worth something. I guess it’s up to him to decide what that is and what others are willing to pay. The glass bow market has been leveled out with some good bows in the working mans price range though many are made oversees. Now a guy can afford to set his whole family up with glass bows in a way that won’t drain the savings and still get something that performs and will last a while.

Personally a base price would start at $500 and up from there. no two are alike so it is like an original work of art. John

Great point, John. No two are alike. Its never a problem grabbing the right bow in a line up. We recognize them like our children.

This thread has been great dialogue and I think we all learned a few things. I'm glad I asked and I appreciate the civility kept.

I should mention I've never sold a bow. I've given some away.

That's the way it is.

Like I said years ago:

More bows I do not need. More bow making I need.

Jawge

I can't sell mine so they keep adding up, each better than than the last, learning as I go building ELB, self, sinew, Boo backed osage, yew and Trilams, I am thoroughly enjoying my passion and shooting them. Never met another bowyer personally until my visit to the Tenn Classic last year. Built 20 so far from 53# to 85# and 48" to 72" long. Its a hobby to me but I know what goes into building a finely crafted selfbow and although no one would give me 500 for mine I had no problem paying John Strunk 540 for a Vine Maple Selfbow a couple years ago.

Great topic. Personally, I think most (not all) who want to shoot a selfbow want the experience of crafting one themselves. About 20+ years ago I purchased a rawhide backed osage bow for 350 if I remember correctly. After that I built my first osage bow myself and killed a small buck with a stone point. After building my first bow I realized that the 350 I spent was a bargain in my eyes. Of course a bandsaw and a well equipped shop will speed up the bow making process but I still think it's an art that can only be perfected by years of experience. With that said I think about 450 - 500 is a good starting point and depending on how many extras it could get as much as 1000+. I do believe guys that build selfbows with the intention to sell them realize they're probably not going to get rich and do it mainly because they love crafting primitive bows. Again, just my opinion.

I built 40 bows before I thought I was good enough to sell one. On the other hand I knew a kid that made terrible selfbows that claimed he sold his first for $450. He sold it to another kid that had never shot a traditional bow but thought they were "cool".

My take is if you are not a great shooter, as a builder you may not know the difference between a stellar selfbow and one that is a dog. I was once a great shooter, those days are in the past now but I still know a great shooter when I make one.

I made plenty of dogs, never sold one. Usually it would be the wood, some osage might be beautiful stuff but made sluggish bows. I have a bunch of this wood gathering dust at the present, all cut from trees in the same area. It does do well bamboo backed and heat treated though.

Up to 1200,its all about the stick choice and the skill should of theboyer

Up to 1200,its all about the stick choice and the skill should of the boyer, a man's time is a mans time, be it spent gluing lams of reading and scarring down a limb.. 25hours at 49 bucks an hour is a grand.

I think it takes years of happy Selfbow customers to tell the tale. Then price them to still be a hobby. They start stacking up your asking too much! Arvin

Eric, I once had someone tell me he made 6 bows and wanted to start selling them. I made 2 dozen shooters before I felt "confident". Jawge

Arvin, I agree. If they are stacking up it might be time to lower the price. One thing you can't put a price on is the bowyers name. If a guy is in demand and he only makes so many bows he can ask more money. Some guys that haven't been selling very long are very good bowyers and only a matter of time till their name gets out. I would put Pearly on that list. Arvin is another one. We have some guys here that are at the top of their trade.

So...... should our next challenge be to make a $1000 selfbow?

I gotta go scrape some yew, chew some sinew, or fling some arras or something. You guys are giving me the damned heebie-jeebies with all this selfbow-business talk. It just ain't right. It's sacrilegious I tell ya. Too much talkie talkie. Who ARE you guys... really? Aliens? Selfbows? Money?

Here, I thought I knew ya.

:^)

Seems queersome(not sure how ya spell that), but this nonsense seems to motivate me somehow. I need to go.

Whittle on, brothers.

I like all this and would love to get a good quality selfbow or primitive bow. But like most of you say either guys that have been doing it long enough to know how to make a good one don't sell them. They just enjoy doing it. I got one I traded for a while back and was surprised how good it shot to other ones I've shot. It had over lays on the tips and one broke in half and flew off in the middle of a shoot and I Finnished the shoot with it. Having shot recurves for years then longbows it seemed like the thing to try next and made my own with help that I like how it shoots for me but has so much shock it hurts my shoulder after a while. It seem hard to find a good price and a good selfbow that you can trust how much he really knows about building them like was said earlier on here

I would rather sell my brains and shop time than sell finished bows. When and if I sell bows its because I have to. Not just because I can.

I never felt right about taking money from the general fund to pay for my toys such as shop equipment, hunting leases or out of state licenses so I sold a few bows to cover these expenditures.

My band saw is a two bow band saw, same for the jointer and belt sander. I have a three bow dust collection system and the best quality rasps and hand tools all payed for by selling bows.

I'd rather pass on what I've learned, than sell what I've made. Pass it on. Keep the good fire burning. That's what I've been given. That's all/everything I ask.

I've taught dozens in person... sometimes over a dozen a day. I've sold maybe a handful of bows. Cheap. Given away others when so inclined.

If I sell or give a bow, it's because I WANT to, not for any other reason. In such an instance, money seems more a hindrance than an object of desire.

I'd rather spend a lifetime instructing someone how to make the best bows they're capable of, than spend a week making them the best bow I'm capable of.

I don't know how to relay my feelings any better than that.

Good way to look at it Eric, I have a similar philosophy.

Eric you and I are the same. It's a hobby that helps pay its way. I shoulda planed better if I wanted to give them away. And Pearl I ain't that knowledgeable. All I have is the big hands God gave me. Arvin

Hey Jeff I have one if you have a extra thousand!!:-) Arvin

My comment reads arrogant, not what I meant. I meant I would rather make $500 giving a guy a great osage stave, buff horn for tps, leather for the grip, what I know about building them and my shop to create his own bow.

I have seen some real beautiful self bows made by guys on here. It is like art work. If one really catches your eye. And feels even better in your hand. Most of us would be willing to pay a little more for it. Passing on this skill is really cool. Thanks again for all the advice from all of you.

I haven's sold a bow in years, after my wife died taking money from the general fund wasn't an important consideration anymore.

I donate my bows to good causes now, auctions for children's hospitals and very special people who have gone above and beyond either for our country or perhaps worked tirelessly promoting archery.

I am also committed to advancing the craft and teach for free if I can find a student that "has it". No wheel shooters or people who are non archers as these folk won't persevere in the craft.

Matter of fact, I had a new student last week in my shop, he worked his butt off all day and will be back on Thursday.

Pearl, I understood what you meant. One of my dreams for a long time has been to open up a little shop in my area and give bow building lessons and serve coffee and homemade snacks and food like chili, or cinnamon rolls. Once a week have a specialist from another trade come on and show his skill. Knapping, leather work, any kind of primitive skill. Even bring in other bow makers if they were visiting the Los Angeles area.

Eeric, you would be the perfect guy to run a class.

Chris, I can't answer your question, I'm too busy making my next self-bow.

I'm a beginner, but would never take a penny for any of my bows, I build for the fun, satisfaction, excitement and accomplishment.

If I sent one of my bows to anyone it would be free, actually recently I sent my 1971 Bear Tamerlane to someone for no charge.

I love building bows when I get the time, not much lately, I just love to carve on that wood and second guess what the outcome will be.

Matching my unskilled knowledge against mother nature with the help from a bunch of great fellows that don't hesitate to help.

It was very late when I posted the paragraph above.

I should have added, it depends on what you think your time is worth and your skill and the finished product, because you don't really know what the bow is going to do until it's finished.

I personally believe it should be around 4 to 8 hundred, but I would never take an order, I would sell what I had already finished so I wouldn't have to build three bows trying to duplicate what someone ordered. That is me, with your skill I'm sure you could do it the first time.

These 2 are priceless to me. The have magic in them lol. Rooty

The biggest difference between an amateur and a professional builder I think is speed an efficiency. The quality of the work can be just as good by an amateur who is not keeping track of his time so much.

What a great topic, I read and enjoyed every word. While stationed in Arizona a great friend who has passed on gave me an osage bow backed with blueracer. I have shot it a couple of times and it's just hanging on the wall. I believe he purchased it somewhere in northern Michigan. I'm going to shoot it right now.

Those of you who make these bows sound extremely passionate about your work. My hat is off to you. Keep up the tradition. I am now saving my nickles for another beautiful selfbow.

T4

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Hey Pearl great question. How much would I pay for a selfbow. Wow that's a tuffy. I'm one of those guys that just doesn't have any spending money. The wife, kids and farm get all of that. If money wasn't a object I know several really good bowyers I'd love to pay whatever they wanted. Most of them them I'm sure wouldn't want what they where worth. For me though it's more about making the bows myself and watching someone else shoot them or shooting them myself. The best pay for me is watching someone shoot one of my selfbows that's never shoot a selfbow before and watch that big ear to ear smile. It just really takes them by surprise that they aren't shooting some toy. I'm like Eric in that I can't take money from general fund for my hobbies. I like others have said I do what I feel like with the bows I make. Most are given to people I think will use and appreciate. People like myself that don't have the extra money for toys they'd like to have. I have traded for things I need and usually prefer this method. Not all people who want a selfbow want to spend the time and energy to make one themselves. I've had many people tell me that what I'm doing is really something special and they'd love to have one of my bows but they don't want to go through the work of making one themselves. To those people if they feel compelled to offer me monetary compensation because they believe my bows, arrows or Flint knapping is worth it I use that money for my hobbies and everyone has so far been happy. I think what would be even better than the ear to ear smile would be mentoring a new bowyer and watching the ear to ear smile of them shooting their first selfbow. So far I haven't found that person but I'm sure some day I will. I have no interest in selling online or advertising. I have no interest in fame or fortune although a little spending money would be alright. I enjoy my hobbies and want them to stay just that. Hobbies. I see nothing wrong with excepting whatever anyone is willing to give but I don't want my hobbies to become a job. I also agree that every bow is different and like my kids I'm sure I could tell most everyone blindfolded. Well time to do some knapping or maybe chase a ring. Bjrogg

Good to see you signed on LW, BJ. I think you will like it around here. Throw up a few of your recent bows when you get some time off the tractor. The guys on here appreciate and love to see self bows.

Thanks Pearl, I'm still trying to find my way around here. So far looks like a pretty cool place to be and I see a few familiar faces. Bjrogg

As a fellow Michigander I'd love to see some of your art work.

T4, Lenawee County

I'll try figure this whole thing out and put a few up. I'm way behind posting bows. Seems like I spend more time making than posting them but I'll give it a try here. Michigan has some very talented bowyers and very generous to. I'm from the Sunrise Side as we say here in the thumb. Right off the big Lake Huron Bjrogg

"Walking Stick" just seeing if I can figure out how to post a picture Bjrogg

"Walking Stick" just seeing if I can figure out how to post a picture Bjrogg

Well that was so easy they popped up twice can a person edit or once posted its unchangable? Bjrogg

Don't know myself but nice bow! Arvin

Nice bows coming out of the sunrise side!!

T4

Thanks Arvin and t4 I tried posting a bow last night but I could make it work. Still not sure I'm signed in right. It kept saying something was wrong with the site. Bjrogg

No editing BJ. Ya gotta be sure its what you want when you post. Its the Hotel California of websites :)

That internal error you keep seeing, it happens. There are times when you click on a name to PM someone and you get it, then five minutes later its just fine. The site is old, never updated and very simple. But, I like it.

Ok Pearl I'm give it another try Bjrogg

Sorry I just can't seem to start a new topic bjrogg

Sweet bows guys. As to the question, no idea, but the work and talent I've seen on some of the sites is incredible. I'm not even a beginner yet, but I know it's not just craftsmanship that goes into them. Artistic talent seems to shine through, too.

Me either, BJ. I get the same error. Try again later or tomorrow.

Ok Pearl, thought it was just my poor computer skills or lack there of. Maybe I broke it.lol Bjrogg

Good topic and thread Chris, haven't thought about selling but might have to someday. Really enjoy giving or trading them away these days. DBar

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