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Not sure what to do

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Fishgut430 18-Apr-18
Nimrod 18-Apr-18
fdp 18-Apr-18
Desperado 18-Apr-18
Jinkster 18-Apr-18
Fishgut430 18-Apr-18
RJH1 18-Apr-18
RymanCat 18-Apr-18
fdp 18-Apr-18
George D. Stout 18-Apr-18
Sinner 18-Apr-18
GLF 18-Apr-18
Red Beastmaster 19-Apr-18
GF 19-Apr-18
ny yankee 19-Apr-18
stykman 19-Apr-18
Fishgut430 19-Apr-18
jk 19-Apr-18
From: Fishgut430
Date: 18-Apr-18




Does anybody have multiple bows and shoots one way better than the other? I have a crow creek long bow and over the winter I bought a 74 bear super kodiak. I thought I loved the kodiak but i am all over the place. Went inside and got the long bow and was slapping arrows like i never put it down. Now im thinking of selling the SK. I have been shooting it non stop since December I have tried all kinds of arrow. Combinations new strings everything i can think of. Now lost on what to do.

From: Nimrod
Date: 18-Apr-18




Sell the Super Kodiak and get yourself another longbow:) Nimrod

From: fdp
Date: 18-Apr-18




Sure. But the trick is that you are probably trying to grip the Kodiak in an awkward way. Maybe the way it feels comfortable to you, but not the way the bow needs to be shot.

IF you really want to give the Kodiak a shot, you need to so the following.

Grip the bow with an open hand and draw it to your anchor/sighting reference. Let the bow turn however it wants to turn. Then just lightly close your hand around the grip and shoot.

The grip is the most important, and most inconsistent part of any bow.

Essentially you are torquing the bow.

From: Desperado
Date: 18-Apr-18




Nimrod is correct !!!!!Follow his advice !!! Desperado

From: Jinkster
Date: 18-Apr-18




fdp is correct.

Lithe longbows are light enough that they follow form where the mass of a Super K pretty much demands that your form follows it.

And this is why I shoot my Hill bow much differently than I shoot my BB rig.

From: Fishgut430
Date: 18-Apr-18




Fdp I have tried different grips as well. I have tried everything I know of but feel guilty about selling it. I guess there is no since it letting it collect dust

From: RJH1
Date: 18-Apr-18




I agree with fdp, but it will come down to the style of bow you like. I want to like Hill bows, but have to work to shoot them well, where my recurves and R/D longbows I seem to be able to interchange without issues. So you will have to decide if you want to wrestle with the Bear or shoot the bow that apparently suits your style better.

From: RymanCat
Date: 18-Apr-18




Your totally thinking to much and you already put in your head you can't shoot the bow when you can. Take the bow and work on form close to the target then move back and see what happens when your comfortable. Grips mean nothing at all.

Its what you tell yourself that only matters. Don't shoot that bow when your head is twisted up shoot it with clear head and not after you shoot the other bow.

Case in point a guy gets a new bow and hands it to another to shoot and he does alright without even knowing any of the bows characteristics. He didn't even look at the grip.

Draw down and hit the target and just concentrate on that nothing else. Anyone should be able to pick up any bow and shoot it. I didn't say great the first out of the gate that takes a little work to learn a bow.

Some guys advocate shooting one bow and that's Fake news I totally believe!

You guys put way to much in your heads with so many things.

Keep it simple and work your form and be steady at the shot and it should work out for you better eventually give it a little effort.

From: fdp
Date: 18-Apr-18




Fishgut, are you still gripping the back of the bow? Just a thought. But it is really rare to not be able to shoot a bow if you grip it properly. You may not like it, but one can typically work out some type of consistency pretty quickly.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 18-Apr-18




Well actually it's your decision, and what we think shouldn't enter in to your decision. I find the 70's Super Kodiaks to be some of the best shooting bows made, so I don't know what you're doing. That said, what I think is neither here nor there and you need to make a decision. If you can't shoot it, then I suppose maybe you already know the answer.

From: Sinner
Date: 18-Apr-18




Yup, if it doesn't work for you, why fight it? If you're happy with your other bow, count it as a lesson learned.

From: GLF
Date: 18-Apr-18




Is the SK heavier draw weight? If ones easy to pull and hold you get a better release usually.

From: Red Beastmaster
Date: 19-Apr-18




You're seriously considering selling or keeping a bow based on what we say?

Good luck to you sir.

From: GF
Date: 19-Apr-18




Opposing viewpoint:

It’s not a bad piece of equipment, so if you can’t hit with it... it’s gotta be the operator. No offense intended - but you’ve got to be either doing something differently with that bow, or you’re shooting it just like the longbow and trying to drive a square peg.

I suppose it’s also possible that you have some kind of a form issue which the longbow conceals and the recurve accentuates.

Personally, that’s the sort of thing that would drive me nuts until I figured it out.

My guess is that if you can figure out what it is that’s not working for one, you’ll shoot better with both. We’ve got 8 bows around the house here, and I haven’t noticed that any one of them requires a conscious adjustment for me to shoot them well, other than that one may require a bit more cant than another in order to get the nock squarely below my eyeball, but I check that consciously ahead of every shot, pretty much...

Anyway, I’d start by ruling out a spine issue and checking to see that the arrow is pointed where you think it is. Maybe slo-mo video of your arrow coming off of the bow will show you something?

Bottom line is you either want to figure it out or you don't. If you do, go for it; if you don’t.... I have one bow that I don’t shoot often. Don’t even have a string for it right now, actually. But when I do pull it out, I shoot it pretty darn well; maybe even better than the bows that I shoot more often, to be honest. But if I just couldn’t hit with it and I wasn’t prepared to rectify the situation.... it’d be gone. Either sold outright or on semi-permanent loan to a friend who could enjoy it.

From: ny yankee
Date: 19-Apr-18




Are you shooting arrows that were tuned to the Super K? Not just "same as the other bow"? It makes a big difference.

From: stykman
Date: 19-Apr-18




There is no law that says you have to keep it. If you're not comfortable shooting it, sell it and move on.

From: Fishgut430
Date: 19-Apr-18




I bought arrows and tuned them just for the bow. I have tried different grips as well. The bow is 2 pounds heavier and mh long bow But i can't see that being a problem. My form is good at least I think it is. I can shoot my old Pearson just fine as well there is just something about this super kodiak. I made up my mind I am selling it and moving on. I'm not going to stress my self out trying to make it work for me when I can find something that will work for me

From: jk
Date: 19-Apr-18




Might have to do with the way you grip it.





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