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torquing my bow on release

Messages posted to thread:
Jarhead 15-Apr-18
fdp 15-Apr-18
Orion 15-Apr-18
Mpdh 15-Apr-18
Sinner 15-Apr-18
2 bears 16-Apr-18
Sam Dunham 16-Apr-18
Sam Dunham 16-Apr-18
sack 16-Apr-18
Bowmania 16-Apr-18
David McLendon 16-Apr-18
George D. Stout 16-Apr-18
meatCKR 16-Apr-18
RymanCat 16-Apr-18
Jarhead 16-Apr-18
Jarhead 16-Apr-18
Jarhead 16-Apr-18
Jarhead 16-Apr-18
David McLendon 16-Apr-18
2 bears 16-Apr-18
MStyles 16-Apr-18
Bowmania 17-Apr-18
tinecounter 17-Apr-18
Sam Dunham 17-Apr-18
Jarhead 17-Apr-18
From: Jarhead
Date: 15-Apr-18

Jarhead's embedded Photo



Fellas - arrows flying like darts. I couldn't be happier. ZERO wobble. Here I'm sending a 300 grain VPA towards center mass. BUT... I noticed that I torque my bow upon release. In the pic you can see the significant rotation. Do I need to fix it? If so - how? Thanks for all input. Bear hunt in 6 weeks.

From: fdp
Date: 15-Apr-18




Quit gripping the bow on the front, if that's what you're doing.

Actually, the movement may not be torque at all. We'd have to see a video. It could actually be that you are holding the boww loosely and correctly and the bow is just doing what the bow does.

From: Orion Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 15-Apr-18




The picture catches the bow in one stage of recoil. It has to move after the shot. You may or may not be torquing it. A video would help determine as fdp notes.

It looks like you might be gripping the bow pretty hard, though. If that's the case, you may be torquing the bow before you even start to draw it. Can determine that pretty easily just by looking at the bow's orientation before you start the draw.

Regardless, a gentle/loose grip is best. Just start with a mildly open hand and let the grip find it's place in the palm of your hand. Then draw the bow and gently close your fingers around the riser, but don't squeeze. If you do that, it's about impossible to induce lateral torque. Good luck.

From: Mpdh
Date: 15-Apr-18




If the arrows group well, and go where you want them to, I wouldn’t worry about it. No sense changing something right before a hunt when all is well as is.

MP

From: Sinner
Date: 15-Apr-18




As Mpdh said... If you are hitting your aim point with consistency and good arrow flight, then there is no problem present.

From: 2 bears
Date: 16-Apr-18




Could be the weight of the quiver tipping the bow if you have a loose qrip. Try it with the quiver off. I wouldn't be making any drastic changes if you are shooting good. >>>----> Ken

From: Sam Dunham Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 16-Apr-18




I have had it and for me, it is a flinch that is actually TP.The way I eliminate it is to focus on my back muscles while in expansion at full draw and am immersed into aiming. The focus on your back muscles will result in pulling through the shot with the result being a good dynamic release.

I have also been working on my bow arm. The Bow arm should be strong and unmoving during the shot process and should not do anything but be rigid with the shoulder dropped down and bone on bone instead of flexed muscles.

I have a badly damaged left arm from almost losing it from an infection after a serious dog bite became infected years ago.

I only have about a 1.4th of the strength it had before the damage but the bow arm does need to be super strong to hold a Bow out there in good unmoving position.

There is no need to think of the bow arm doing anything except holding the Bow and not moving even after the shot. My shot conclusion is the arrow hitting the target.

From: Sam Dunham Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 16-Apr-18




Correction to this sentence;

"I only have about a 1.4th of the strength it had before the damage but the bow arm does need to be super strong to hold a Bow out there in good unmoving position.

Corrected;

I only have about a 1.4th of the strength it had before the damage but the bow arm does NOT have to be super strong to hold a Bow out there in good unmoving position.

From: sack
Date: 16-Apr-18




Can't tell for sure...camera angle..it's a longbow and you may be gripping it too high like a pistol grip recurve. Let it settle lower toward thumb base if so.Just my 2 cents from this angle. Sack

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 16-Apr-18




You should practice with arrows in your quiver if that's the way you're going to hunt. Last two bows I've had I could notice the difference between off/on/full. Before that no?????????????????

The bow should ride on your lifeline out towards your thumb. Knuckles at a 45 with thumb and forefinger touching. The other three fingers can be curled touching the bow or not. I have a bow with a grip real similar to yours. I have my thumb and forefinger touching, the next finger touching just the front of the grip and the last two relaxed and off the bow.

Relaxed is the key word. If you just hold your hand out the fingers are relaxed and curled toward the palm. No tension.

Don't do it because I do it, do it because it feels good and makes sense.

Bowmania

From: David McLendon
Date: 16-Apr-18




If you are shooting good, arrows are flying good, and you have a hunt in 6 weeks then now is not the time to go looking for trouble that you probably don't have. Keep doing what is working for you and your upcoming hunt.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 16-Apr-18




As David said, if you are shooting, well don't change anything. If arrows are flying center, then what you are seeing/feeling is just the recoil of the bow after the shot.

From: meatCKR
Date: 16-Apr-18




Agree with George - don't change anything now just before your hunt. But after your hunt if it still bothers you, try getting a hold of a forward handle longbow like an Elburg Cherokee or a Northern Mist Whisper or Steve's new Ramer. I had an Elburg Cherokee for a while and the grip was so solid that I don't think I could have torqued it if I tried. Something about those forward handle risers that just lend themselves to a very stable grip. At least that's been my experience. Best of Luck!

Steve

From: RymanCat
Date: 16-Apr-18




You might be clinching your teeth as well? If arrows go where you look who really cares whats going on unless you pick up a bad habit maybe.

From: Jarhead
Date: 16-Apr-18




Attempt at video

From: Jarhead
Date: 16-Apr-18




trying again...

From: Jarhead
Date: 16-Apr-18




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQUkjP6AmTw&feature=youtu.be

I put my vid on youtube... for those who wanted to see "the whole shot."

I'm not clinching my teeth. I shoot with my mouth open slightly. Grip is like an "OK" sign... not too tight... not too loose. Thanks for all

From: Jarhead
Date: 16-Apr-18




Okay - Will not give it too much concern. Arrows flying consistently great... I guess that's the most important thing.

From: David McLendon
Date: 16-Apr-18




Look for that one silver hair on that bear and hit it.

From: 2 bears
Date: 16-Apr-18




There is not too much movement in your bow hand. No worries there. Good luck. >>>-----> Ken

From: MStyles
Date: 16-Apr-18




If I shoot at one target for too long, I begin to grip my bow a little tighter, with each shot. It gets to where I lift my bow upon release, to my right, like I’m going to throw it away to the right. Correcting this is easy, I just stop shooting for a couple of minutes and move to another target.

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 17-Apr-18




Well, I'm not so sure I agree with the above - depends where your arrows are impacting. All you say is that they're headed "towards center mass".

If you get rid of the torque, do you think you'd shoot worse? If the answer is yes, than I'd agree with the above.

Bowmania

From: tinecounter
Date: 17-Apr-18




If it ain't broke . . . . . . . . .

From: Sam Dunham Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 17-Apr-18




I completely misunderstood the statement, sorry!

Not a single thing wrong there with that shot, just a reaction to your grip but the arrow was already gone.

From: Jarhead
Date: 17-Apr-18




Shot today - spent a little more time ensuring good grip placement... pulled bow back 1/2 draw to "feel" the distribution of pressure on my palm... arrows flying good still. I guess there's no need to go hunting for trouble... Thanks for the wisdom gents.





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