Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall

Black widow PL longbow grip

Messages posted to thread:
sage 15-Apr-18
Scoop 15-Apr-18
Shooter 15-Apr-18
Dry Bones 15-Apr-18
sage 15-Apr-18
CW 15-Apr-18
Jim 15-Apr-18
Morning Star 15-Apr-18
fdp 15-Apr-18
Andy Man 15-Apr-18
strshotx 15-Apr-18
kstout 15-Apr-18
farmer 15-Apr-18
LightPaw 15-Apr-18
Uncle Lijiah 15-Apr-18
Vanhethof 16-Apr-18
Bowmania 16-Apr-18
Stickshooter 16-Apr-18
From: sage Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 15-Apr-18

So I know the Toby is a little larger than the standard. What’s yall thought about differents

From: Scoop Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 15-Apr-18

This is my personal experience only from two widow longbows. I have an extra large hand and both had the standard grip, which bit me a little in my palm from being too narrow for me. I solved that by putting a fairly thick leather wrap under the rubber slide-on grip and no problems after that. If I was ordering a new widow, it would have have the larger Toby grip. Call the widow gang and talk with them. They'll give you good advice.

From: Shooter
Date: 15-Apr-18

Have owned both and prefer the Toby grip. I have a large med hand and it fills my palm better.

From: Dry Bones
Date: 15-Apr-18

Glad to see this come up. I have flat hands that are pretty spread out. I like bows that fill my grip. Some of the narrower or slim line grips are really hard for me to shoot, but it does not seem like very many make a grip that fills my paw. I'm glad to see some others like the more full or larger grips as I do. Definitely will look at the "Toby" grip.


From: sage Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 15-Apr-18

I don’t think I have larger hands or small that’s why I been so on decisive about the grip

From: CW
Date: 15-Apr-18

I have the toby grip and really like it.

BW told me when I ordered that most people who where used to shooting recurves preferred the Toby grip.

From: Jim Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 15-Apr-18

All my PL’s have the standard grip. It is an easy grip to get used to more so than a Toby grip. I have shot them both and suggest you try them both before you buy one.

From: Morning Star
Date: 15-Apr-18

Toby’s grip with a beaver tail on it is a great longbow grip

From: fdp
Date: 15-Apr-18

Never buy a bow based on someone else's opinion of a grip.

I shoot recurves and detest the Toby grip.

You need to be able to try them to see what works best for you. Even if that means having to test drive all the options you are interested in.

From: Andy Man
Date: 15-Apr-18

for me thestandard grip hurt the fat meat at the base of my thumb- had a bulbous area that hit right on the bulbous area of my thumb flet like to ball bearings coming together

the TOBY is much more comfortable for me

From: strshotx
Date: 15-Apr-18

I have had both,I prefer the standard grip.Even though my PLX T/D I traded for has the Toby grip.Both shoot fine for me but still prefer the standard grip if I was ordering one.

From: kstout
Date: 15-Apr-18

I prefer the standard grip. I've tried the Toby grip and didn't like it.

From: farmer
Date: 15-Apr-18

toby sent me a longbow handle that I put automotive bondo on and sanded it to what I liked. sent it back to widow and they copied it exactly.truly a custom grip

From: LightPaw
Date: 15-Apr-18

I have a small/ med hand and prefer the standard grip. I tried a demo bow with the Toby grip and it floated around in my hand. The standard grip is a little 'pointy' in the hand for some, but I like it.

+1 on Jim's comment. Awesome bows, but try before you buy.

From: Uncle Lijiah
Date: 15-Apr-18

The Standard and the Toby grip look about the same to me viewed from the side. Viewed from the front or back, the Toby grip is swelled outward in the palm area so it fills up your hand more. It's mainly a difference in feel.

From: Vanhethof
Date: 16-Apr-18

Good topic. I plan on buying a BW this summer after only handling the Toby grips. Having small hands didn't seem to be an issue. I liked the full fit. However, I'll now give the standard grip a try as well.

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 16-Apr-18

So if you had to tighten a screw that had a slot, say a half inch wide, which screw driver would you choose? The first one has a blade half inch wide and half inch diameter handle. THe second one has a blade half inch wide and a handle 2 inches in diameter. Which one could you get the screw tighter.

Bow handles/grips are the opposite, because we don't want torque. So the thinner the better. The book 'Archery Anatomy' by Ray Axford has 4 pages with pictures explaining thin grips. The size of your hand really has nothing to do with it.

Well, if you the grip is the same and you have large hands you can't torque it as much as a guy with small hands. Strength excluded.


From: Stickshooter
Date: 16-Apr-18

I too am looking at a PL and spoke to Roger at BW. Being 6' he "suggested" the toby even though it's all personal preference. Personally I like the thinner.

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