I'm looking to get into an ILF bow for hunting. I want a riser that would work well with a sight. And I like medium to narrow grips. I'm looking for stability and quiet shooting limbs. What should I be considering? Thanks for the help. Dave

I am really enjoying my Excel Riser with Premium Plus Carbon limbs from SF. You can swap out grips on it as well.

I am looking for an ILF setup also.

So confusing.

I am considering the TimberCreek CopperHead. But I just dont know... head scratcher

if you like a smaller grip? take of the grip that comes with it and use tennis wrap...ron

ILF shouldn't be so confusing. Building the combination is simply doing math to get to where you want to be, short riser..med...long, etc. It's just a takedown bow that has more adjustable tiller...thereby more tunable to the individual. Fit is likely the biggest issue and that 'feel' thing.

It works much like the Bear Takedown. The longer the riser using long limbs will make the longest bow. There are some variables of course by manufacturers, but it's simply a matter of deciding what length and draw weight you want, then working the gozintos to get there. Still, though, you need to have one that fits you; that old feel thing that is hard to describe. It would likely be a good idea for anyone who seriously wants to try one to get with someone who has one, or to a shoot where you will encounter a few.

I use a Hoyt Excel riser in 21" black out, and shoot off the shelf using furniture pads. Tradtech limbs and a SBD string. Makes a great hunting rig with a small changeable grip.

Don't be afraid of using limbs designated as "target", they may be smoother, faster and as durable as hunting limbs. Do be aware that limbs weights marked for longer risers will result in heavier pull weights with a shorter hunting riser (like a pound gain per inch shorter). I went to ILF as a bow format to grow old with and it's working out well for me...

You didn't mention if you're looking for a wood or metal riser, nor did you mention length or weight.

Since you're learning.... I put this together some time back. Some folks find it useful.

I'm thinking a metal riser to have a bigger cutout and tap for sight and shooting 55# at 60 inches would be a stable platform. Thanks for the chart!

The setup I posted is 64in (21in Excel Riser + Medium Limbs). The limbs are olympic style just spray painted and 48# but come to around 54# at my draw length for reference.

Don't overlook a Warf bow that is a compound riser converted to accept ILF limbs. Many of them are great shooting bows, and are frequently listed on the big auction, and once in a while our own classified.

If you are putting a sight on it I think you'd need something in the 25" range.

21" riser would be minimum from what I've seen. Jinks has(had) sights on his Black Bear warf and it was working. He needs bushings for sight more than anything. A warf would be the cheapest route - there are 2 for sale on TT if I am remembering correct.

Your draw length would be helpful too.

Split finger 28" draw. Thanks for all the ideas and help.

Very good. We now know you want a 60" hunting bow you can hang a sight on, 55# at your 28" draw length.

Now... here's what I'd suggest, depending on how much you're willing to spend.

A 19" Tradtech Titan III, a Hoyt Satori 19", or a Morrison 19" Phoeninx HXD riser and any decent short limbs. Limbs rated at 48# on a 25" riser will get you very close to 55# on any of those risers....

... or, a 17" TradTech Titan II, a Morrsion 17" Phoenix XD, or a DAS 17" riser and any decent medium limbs. Limbs rated at 46# on a 25" riser will get you very close to 55# on any of those risers.

Good luck to you.

Perfect Thank you sir!

I have a Titan with 60# long bow limbs and I just luv that set up nice grip and quiet a joy to shoot

Mr Casto’s advice is spot on as usual. The only thing I would add to it is this; medium length limbs are much more plentiful than shorts in the used market.

AA that's great for this newbie to know as the used market is my market!

Are you coming from a compound or traditional?

David, are you near Milwaukee? I'm in New Berlin and you can try 5 different risers and assorted limbs. And if you come on Saturday at 2PM, you can try another that I've been waiting to try.

Give me a PM, Cheezeheads are welcome any time.

Bowmania

What's the formula for figuring out what poundage different length riser and limbs will make?

Titan or a Gillo Ghost are pretty hard to beat. But these days, there are a lot of good options. We're playing in times of plenty. It's almost impossible to believe just 13 years ago, there were ZERO ILF-compatible short hunting risers on the market.

I'm in nw Wisconsin and I've shot one piece recurve for years... mostly 1970 era grizzly

I have the Hoyt Excel riser and TT carbon/foam limbs set up for a hunting rig. I also have a couple old compound risers converted to ILF. The Pearson Equalizer riser and med S/F extreme carbon/foam limbs make a 60” bow. If I wanted to spend a few more bucks I would go with the Hoyt Satori 17” riser with a set of carbon/wood or carbon/foam limbs, med limbs.

Where in NW WI? I’m in Prentice and have 4-5 different ones in different lengths you could look at and shoot if the snow ever goes away.

Your best bet would be to take Kelly up on the offer to try before you buy. Nothing beats a true hands on feel.

Good on you, Kelly!

Can somebody talk me thru how the limb lengths at their stated weight to what one can expect for poundage on a riser of a particular length. Is there a chart somewhere or convention. Thank you all so much the learning curve has shortened considerably due to the knowledge base here sharing!

You may find this discussion interesting, hopefully informative.

http://leatherwall.bowsite.com/TF/lw/thread2.cfm? threadid=296129&category=88#4377170

Well... that link didn't work. Try this one:

http://leatherwall.bowsite.com/TF/lw/thread2.cfm? threadid=296129&category=88

Gee Whiz!

You have to copy and paste the link in your address bar and take out the space between the ? and thread.

Gee Whiz!

Thanks JIM! Now I got it!

I believe most limbs for hunting have a stated weight for a 17" riser, you will lose a couple of pounds if using a 19" or gain a couple if using a 15". And Olympic style limbs are stated for use with a 25" riser, so you would gain 8# or so if using a 17" (about a lb/in.). Don't forget you will have about 10% adjustment through the tiller adjustment. A lot to add up while shopping...

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