From: Gray Goose Shaft
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Date: 21-Mar-18 |
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Here is a very similar method. Google 'blacktail bows twisted limb guide'.
Best of luck.
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From: gluetrap
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Date: 21-Mar-18 |
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some bow just look twisted the same way. right handed bows look like might be going to far to the left ect. at least to me they do sometimes...ron
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From: Keefers
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Date: 21-Mar-18 |
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Shawn is correct and if you need pictures you can look up Blacktail bows and they have a step by step "How To" do it as Shawn describes!
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From: pleco
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Date: 21-Mar-18 |
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I used to wrap the twisted limb in a heating pad and set it up so it's twisting in the opposite direction (while wrapped in the heating pad) for a few hours. Got out some bad twists that way. Never had a delamination
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From: Therifleman
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Date: 21-Mar-18 |
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I have run the limb under warm--- not hot water for several minutes, then twist limb the opposite direction just past where it needs to be. Worked very well.
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From: hvac tech
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Date: 21-Mar-18 |
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I fixed a several with heat and then twist back and cool down .
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From: hvac tech
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Date: 21-Mar-18 |
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Murph heat will work
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From: deerhunt51
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Date: 21-Mar-18 |
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twist limb past straight while holding under very warm running water. Continue to hold past straight and have someone turn off the warm water and turn on cold water, this will cool the limb and help keep the correction.
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From: mahantango
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Date: 22-Mar-18 |
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Heat,yes,if needed. Water,no. I can't understand why anyone would douse anything made of old wood and glue with warm water.
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From: ga bowhunter
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Date: 22-Mar-18 |
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I've used a hair dryer before on low heat worked good be patient and feel limbs to make sure they don't get too hot
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From: Keefers
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Date: 22-Mar-18 |
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Murph, Have you had time to search the pdf file on www.Blacktailbows.com and see the picture explanation on their website ? Once you get on their website click on the search box at top that has FAQ and scroll almost to the bottom and you will see a blue highlighted section that reads Limb Fix or something of that nature .Click and give it time to load. Once it loads it is like 4 pages and if I were you print it if you have a printer and save it in case you ever need to go back and re do it. If I knew how to load that here I would but Shawn is trying to help you as well with his explanation of how Blacktailbows describes it. Lots of other methods with water and heat but believe me I once blistered a old Pearson with the heat and ruined a limb. To much heat and you risk a delaminating from cooking the old glue . Hot Water was an old method but if you have a void you don't see it may get moisture in it an risk delaminating as well. Have a person on the other end to hold as you twist in the opposite direction and set on a flat surface if you can like a counter top with the face of limbs touching if riser doesn't interfere and see if it lays flat and not rock sideways.
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From: sir misalots
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Date: 22-Mar-18 |
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heat and pressure using patience with both
Ive seen some videos on hanging a weight to one side also
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From: Bowmania
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Date: 22-Mar-18 |
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Here's and interesting quote from Rick McKenney, "Darrell Pace won the 1976 Olympics with all kinds of World and Olympic records and used twisted limbs."
Bowmania
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From: deerhunt51
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Date: 22-Mar-18 |
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Well Paul the reason you use water is Bowyers with way more knowledge then you or I put together say so.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 25-Mar-18 |
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I run hot tap water over the limb...about 1/3 up from the tip...where most twist. Twist them the other way until the string stays seated in the middle, then run cold water. After that wipe away any excess moisture and let strung for a day or so.
Water has worked fine for me with no ill-effect for about half a century, so that's how I do it. Sometime though, you don't need anything except to counter twist it. It was put in there by either stringing improperly or was stood on the limb ... unstrung in a corner. Mostly though from twisting while stringing and unstringing.
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From: Renewed Archer
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Date: 26-Mar-18 |
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I tried Norm Johnson's method after reading this thread yesterday. I counter-twisted a 30# 66" 1961 Polar almost as hard as was possible, until the limb was nearly perpendicular to the original plane. I found I had to put the apex of the twist where the twist started in the limb, about 16" from the tip... even though it was the tip that was the most twisted. It worked.
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From: deerhunt51
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Date: 26-Mar-18 |
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No buddy knows more then Shawn, just look up scoring racks.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 26-Mar-18 |
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I'm not sure how to answer that one murph. Abuse, I suppose, but most of those twists came from guys stringing the bow between their legs...like they were likely taught to do. The problem isn't stringing through the legs though, it's how it's done and it can be done without twisting the limbs. So I will say that I think most of it was done inadvertently.
Standing a bow in the corner on a slight lean can also move a limb over time...again, not intentional abuse, and I imagine any bow is susceptible. What I have seen over the years is that most limb twist is on the shorter models...Kodiak Mags, short Brownings and Shakespeares, etc. But I certainly don't know if one is more likely than another.
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From: fdp
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Date: 26-Mar-18 |
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I think some bows do twist easier than others. For example, Harold Groves recurves are known to twist with careless stringing. But, they have really thin core, fairly narrow across back and belly, tiny tipped limbs. Other bows I've seen of similar design have that same problem.
Shawn, if the bowyer that built the bow used any type of good epoxy, you would have to have water almost boiling to affect the glass or glue. Most guys heat their bows to between 160 and 189 while they are on the form.
If hat tap water hurts it, I don't want it in Texas because it won't last through July.
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From: doubleeagle
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Date: 24-May-18 |
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Last week, I picked up a 1970 grizzly with a lower limb twist. Got it from a local auction site for $37. I use a Webster stringer and put a string on it. First draw had the string pop out of the limb groove. I followed the above instructions and twisted it the other way. So far it is still string, straight, and couldn't tell it was twisted. The above advice saved me as I don't need a wall hanger or try heat treating. It worked on this one. Thanks for the post.
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From: wonderbowman
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Date: 24-May-18 |
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Some bows just don't straiten. I have a York Super Crest that re twists no matter what I do to resolve the problem.
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From: Fisher Cat
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Date: 24-May-18 |
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Most people are using stringers these days, so I think most twists you see now come from people laying a bow on the floor of a hot attic, stacking other things on top and leaving it for 20-40 years. - John
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From: 2 bears
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Date: 24-May-18 |
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Hot tap water will not hurt a bow if the finish is intact. It just takes a minute to warm straighten and cool. You can control the heat and add more the next try. Most folks tap water will not over heat. Smaller twist usually don't even require it.>>>----> Ken
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From: jaz5833
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Date: 25-May-18 |
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I have fixed two, by placing them on the dash of my truck on a hot day and pulling them out just prior to being too hot to handle. I twisted the bad limb just past center, opposite the original twist, until it was cooled off. Once released both straightened out perfectly.
One was a Damon Howatt Hi-Speed that had been braced and sitting in the corner of a closet for 51 years. The lower limb was BAD! That was 4 years ago and it has seen no ill effects, even with regular weekly use.
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