When I'm shooting with a clicker i consistently pull arrows to the right (right handed). I can't figure out why. The arrows are tuned and I'm not over drawing because if i pull until it clicks and than hold and do a static back tension shot, I hit dead center. But if i use the clicker as a psychotrigger to trigger my shot, I often pull shots to the right. Has anyone had this experience or have any ideas about what I am doing wrong?

I think you are anticipating the shoot and it's making you flinch when you hear the click. Also make sure to pay attention to bow string blur in the riser. Your sting should show up in the same spot of the riser every shot. Good luck!

thanks for the response! I believe my release is unanticipated. I have been doing the joel turner thing for about 4 years so I believe I can analyse that aspect of my shot fairly well

thanks for the response! I believe my release is unanticipated. I have been doing the joel turner thing for about 4 years so I believe I can analyse that aspect of my shot fairly well

For me plucking makes arrow go right for right hander

I agree with the plucking. It is something I have to watch. I was told to imagine a golf ball on my shoulder. As I draw and use back tension and the clicker goes off, the "release" will happen and to pull through all the way and try to grab the golf ball as fast as possible. This helps to keep me from plucking the string.

The other thought is that your bow arm is collapsing at that moment and causing the bow to shift right. This is due to shot anticipation as well. Just make sure you are using and focusing on your shot activation word... keep pressing through and it will remove all other shot glitches that are not known.

I haven't been shooting much for the last couple of years and my memory isn't as good as it once was but I think when that was happening to me it was because I was pulling with my arm and not with my back. It usually happens when I get tired.

lbl -

I think you have it backwards. More likely without the clicker your arrows are going left (due to a collapse) and with the clicker, they are going where they are supposed to.

The only problem with that theory is that we can't see what you're doing from here.

Viper out.

You shouldn't let the clicker tell you when to shoot. You're not stopping to release. It's the same as a pluck. The clicker is just to tell you you're back ,,,,not initiate the release.

Without seeing you shoot???????

Once Viper and I were discussing something, I don't even remember what it was, but he told me something interesting I use a regularly. He said after the arrow hits the target hold your position for 5 seconds.

It could give you some insight as to what you're doing. Five seconds is a long time to THINK.

If that doesn't tell you anything, try moving your string blur to the right - it should make your arrows go left.

Bowmania

If you use the clicker the way I do, it should trigger your shot. It's a psychotrigger for me

"if i pull until it clicks and than hold and do a static back tension shot, I hit dead center. But if i use the clicker as a psychotrigger to trigger my shot, I often pull shots to the right."

Not sure why you hit to the right without watching ,you, but if you hit dead center not using it to trigger your shot why not keep using it that way?

Because off I shoot this way long term I begin to anticipate the shot and have pre shot bracing

Maybe the clicker isn't adjusted long enough to let you get to full back tension? I have never used one, but a friend I shoot with did, and just last year was able to wean himself off using it. I know the way he had it set up, that after coming to full draw it took very little back tension to set it off.

I heard years ago, that the original way to use it, when it was first developed, was like your first statement. The clicker was intended to let you know you are at full draw and then you release, not when it actually clicks.

You might be stretching out a bit with your left arm in an effort to hear that click. And, in doing so you may be twisting your body a bit to the right.

I would suggest if you are using a kicker you indeed are causing yourself problems.

deerhunt51, nothing wrong with clickers...they are not the devil's spawn. A clicker simply helps a person get to full draw each time. If you have a problem with that, then don't use one. Not everyone thinks as you do.

Thanks George for clearing that up.

I have shot for twenty years and have found that I need a psychotrigger in order to hold on target at full draw and execute a good shot. I wish I could hold and aim and release whenever I wanted like done of you above but my brain doesn't work that way. A clicker allows me to do this. Static psychotrigger like a riser sear requires me to have too many jobs at full draw. You have to aim , maintain back tension, and execute the movement to get to your trigger all at the same time. to me a clicker is the simplest way to shoot. You just set your site picture and keep expanding until the click and the shot goes off. It's how Olympic shooters shoot

LBL,

I couldn’t agree with you more. A clicker gives me a perfect surprised release each shot. I wouldn’t shoot my bow without one.

I'm putting one on my bow this weekend. It showed up in the mail today. Any advice? Do they stick well out of the package? Should I put it on 3D bow which is a recurve or hunting bow which is a longbow? Thanks

Take the chain and string off and replace it with D loop material. I run it through the hole in the clicker blade and burn the end so it won’t pull through. Then I soak it with glue overnight so it it attaches tight to the clicker blade. If you don’t glue it then the clicker blade will eventually tear the D loop material.

It will work well on either bow. I shot one on a long bow. If you are new to them I would advise looking into joel turner on youtube, masters of the barebow 4, or shot iq.com. he specializes in how to use triggers like clickers long term

I used one for awhile. The biggest challenge i found was setting it up correctly. When i had it set too long it would prompt me to overdraw and my arrows would go to the right--- i shoot left handed. It would also take several seconds to get through the back tension and the clicker. I eventually took it off and felt " freed", but noticed a greater awareness of my natural anchor through back tension and a smoother shot cycle. I am shooting better than ever sans clicker, but do believe it helped me learn more about my shot when it was on the bow. Im a believer in trying everything, finding what works and then sticking with it.

If the shot goes well when you hold past the clicker,I believe it is a noise induced flinch. If you had not added that I would go with what Viper said. Good luck. >>>----> Ken

Bowmania, I took the 5 second hold advice after arrow hits target. Thank you very helpful for me.

"thanks for the response! I believe my release is unanticipated. I have been doing the joel turner thing for about 4 years so I believe I can analyse that aspect of my shot fairly well "

With Joel's method, you can self analize... I use it too. You're missing something. Go back thru your shot process and you'll figure it out, but I think 56 Kodiak may be close...

Good luck and let us know, Jason

LBL...not all Olympic shooters use the clicker as a psycho trigger. One can use it that way, but you don't have to. The clicker just ensures that you have reached full expansion. Nothing wrong with holding once you've done that.

Using the clicker as a psycho trigger runs the risk of causing anticiapation induced TP.

fdp -

Actually, it's the exact opposite. Trained Olympic shooters use the clicker to take the release out of conscious control.It becomes an trained anticipatory response.

In fact the clicker was invented in 1957 as a fix for target panic. The only place I've heard of clickers causing TP is with trad shooters who either never used one, of never learned to use one properly.

Viper out.

Viper, from this OP's description of his problem he has already caused TP due to anticipation of the release.

"But if i use the clicker as a psychotrigger to trigger my shot, I often pull shots to the right"

Thank you guys all for the Input! I have tagger panic without a trigger like a clicker. I'm positive of this. I also know what a pluck feels like and I feel I'm getting a very clean release

fdp -

Now go back and read my first post on this thread. A collapse (without the clicker) will typically throw an arrow left. Therefore, with the clicker and no collapse, they will fly relatively to the right.

Viper out.

Thanks viper. Thickened my strike plate as an experiment. arrow flight is good and I'm hitting where in supposed to now

You're pulling to the clicker is what is most likely, expand past the clicker and just relax your hand along the way.

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