I use 125 grain points and tune arrows accordingly. I also use weight tubes to bring my Beman ICS arrows up to 525 grains +/-. My bows range in draw weight from 45-47#. I tune arrows mostly by cut and shoot bareshafts and small brace height adjustments. I am interested in quiet and straight flight. A little bareshaft left or right is ok with me as long as the bareshaft groups with my fletched shafts and those fletched shaft fly straight and hit where I am looking.

I only have 90 grains total tip weight on carbons for my 29# target bow. I'm guessing your close to 140 grains up front with insert. That being said I would think a proper spine carbon should tune.

Yes depending on which bow now using that day. I HAVE MANY SETS OF MATCHED ARROWS THAT ARE 150 AND LESS. I LIKE 145 THOUGH.

On deer-sized critters I generally use 145 to 150 grain broadheads on my carbons. They shoot thru everything. :^)

Plus insert weight.

I have always shot 150 grains total on my #52 bow

Heads are 150g Thunder Valley Snuffers

Going on 50 years now and never more than 145, carbon, wood, or aluminum.

If you pick the right spine you don't need a boat anchor up front, the guys that say 400's out of a 45# bow is perfect then shoot 325 up front haven't figured it out yet.

the thing I don't like about 125 grain heads for carbons is that its hard to get broad heads for it other than screw ins. but yes I have a bow that shoots 600 spines arrows with 125 grain points very well.

125 Stingers with standard 11 gn insert. Mounted on GT 500s and shot from a 55@29 Saxon American. These fly perfect, but are very light, around 7.5 gpp. I have not yet shot anything but targets with this setup. The arrows fly very fast, but I don’t know if I care to shoot this low of gpp.

MP

You know if you shoot some of the 125 grain heads you mentioned you need an adaptor, so you're shooting pretty close to 150.

Bowmania

100-145, and I leave them full length.

150 gr point on size 500 carbon, cut to my length, but the shaft itself is very heavy (10.8 gpi). That's a tad heavier than a 2016 aluminum shaft.

I use 125 grain heads on my 46lb. bows but I also use a 100 grain brass insert.

125 grain bear greenies, 25 grain threaded broad head adapter glued into greenie, 75 grain threaded brass insert inside carbon axis 400 shaft for 50 lb Black Widow recurve. Total up front is 225 grains. Total arrow weight is 515 grains.....Perfect flight, perfect tuning bullet hole.....Perfect killer !!!!

I use 150 grain points on carbons. I have some old 145 blunts. When they are gone, I will have to go to 125 g points. I don’t understand how you use a broadhead weight without a matching blunt for warm up shots or small game. I also like to cut to minimum length, and use Gold Tip weights to tune.

These days I tend to prefer a little heavier but have killed a lot of deer and hogs with 125.Good luck. >>>----> Ken

I have used 200+ in the past but used 125 this year.

Magnus Buzzcut 150 grain 2-blade.

If I get 150 to fly good with either my 44 or 40, I’ll be shooting buzzcuts for deee this year. Been shooting them for years with my compound, but needed to bump up to 200 with my 55# and Magnus only goes to 150

I think Magnus makes 125 Snuffers.

I am shooting 125 hellrazors on my wheelies. They would work.

Shot the new SS Bear heads when they came out. Heaviest head I ever used, all others are/were 125 gr. I just can't wrap my head around today's 200 and 300 gr heads with 45# bows??

There are a few good options in screw on 125 grainers. VPA and magnus buzzcuts come to mind. I'm sure those Simmons heads would work great too.

I don't shoot over 125 grain heads on any of my carbons, and more 100 grain tips then 125 grain. Shooting bows cut 1/4" past center allows me to shoot a stiffer micro diameter shaft with awesome performance!!

It's nothing more than proper spine. The shaft material makes no difference at all.

Been shooting 100 grain original Magnus on carbons for years. I see no reason to change. Most shots, I'm pulling the arrow out of the dirt on the opposite side of where the deer was standing.

I will and have used 125, 145, 150 and 175's for various reasons. Tune trumps weight to me. I want that head flying straight at impact.

Been shooting 100 grain original Magnus on carbons for years. I see no reason to change. Most shots, I'm pulling the arrow out of the dirt on the opposite side of where the deer was standing.

I will and have used 125, 145, 150 and 175's for various reasons. Tune trumps weight to me. I want that head flying straight at impact.

good topic....I'm currently shooting 175 gr points, but I wouldn't mind dropping down to 125 or 100 for the simple fact that I can buy that grain field point or broadhead at any archery shop, around here. But the heavier points I have to get through the mail.

Limbwalker...."tune trumps weight"....I couldn't agree with that more. I'm pretty picky when I tune my arrows, I think that by far is the #1 key to good penetration.

I do.

I do, too.

Bear's SS Super Razorhead on a 30" GT 500 out of a 45x@28 Super Kodiak.

This head/arrow went thru two deer last season. Blood loss was pretty dang good.

I shoot full length beman ics 400 with 125 gr heads out of 45# bow. They shoot very good. But I like the tuneable gold tip trads. I tune both the front and back

Shoot what flies the best from your bow and gives you the most confidence. I tend to shoot medium weight arrows around 9 grains per pound of bow weight. This has always given me good penetration and nice flat trajectory; after all you must first hit the target to be able to penetrate it. Here's my current setup. 50lb. bow, 500 spine carbon arrows, 125gr. 3 blade broadhead, 50gr. brass insert. Total arrow weight 465gr. works out to 9.3gr. per pound. It is most important to have a perfectly tuned and flying arrow for great penetration.

I shoot higher poundage at around 60 pound reflex-deflex longbows with several different arrow setups. My go-to is a goldtip 5575 (.400) with a 150 grain broadhead up front cut at 29 1/4”. They come in at around 465 grains. Have shot thru elk, deer, hogs, moose, red stag, sheep, and caribou with this setup. I have total confidence in this arrow for animals up to the size of moose. I like the three-blade VPAs, Snuffers, and woodsmans but have also had good luck with the Steelforce 4-blades. If you are worried about penetration, look at the RMSG Cutthroat 150 grain.

I like 150 woodsmen on cedars and carbon

I shoot light heads (125 grains plus aluminum insert) on some of my target arrows, but not for hunting critters. I simply want a heavier arrow for critters, 500 grains or so, and I can't get that unless I go with about 200 grains up front.

Yeah, I know folks kill critters with 400 grain arrows. Just not my cup of tea.

125 plus 25 for the adapter on my hunting arrows. 60 grain glue- in points on my target arrows.

I use 125's on my ACS set up, but I'm shooting CX Heritage 350s with 100gr brass inserts sot they are still 630grn total

125's on everything, with no problem.

Depends on bow ILF risers cut way past center sure 125 no problem I have some longbows that won't bareshaft until I get close to 300 grains because the shelf is cut out from center,my 45 lbs ILF bow tunes with 500 spine 30" arrows about 140 grains my 58# Jack Smith longbow needs 300 grains lot's of variables

42@27 500 spine with 125gr tips, 28" bop, metal riser with ILF wood glass limbs, newer string material. Set up dead center, fly like darts. Was shooting aluminums and 600's before and was way under spined. For some weird reason, I always shoot arrows spined much heavier than most would. Probably has something to do with having lunch with Jim Ploen :)

Bows 45-50 @ 28" and having my arrows cut to 29.5" needs a light spined arrow to tune property. With a 125 grain point that would be a .650-.700 spined arrow. With that set up it makes my arrows around 6 GPG and the bow noisy. Now with all that said , no I don't use 125 grain points.

I use a 125 on all of my arrows. I shoot a higher grain per inch shaft cut to 29 for my 28" draw. I figure there is a good reason that 125 grains was the standard for so long. It still works well.

I shoot 125gr Muzzy Phantoms or Wensel woodsman on Gt trad. carbon arrows for a total 425gr. they fly like darts and Ive killed many deer with this setup most with pass thru. really never understood why guys want those heavy 2oo gr heads. ive shot them and didn't like the huge arc I got. Ive always shot right around 50lb bows. To each their own tho, I like my arrows flying quick and flat. most all my shots at deer been 20yds or less.

32" old stock camo Carbon Express and 125 grain broadhead = 525 grain arrow out of a 54#@30.5" recurve. Shot through every deer that I hit in the right spot out to 20 yards with arrow stuck in the ground after pass through.

I shoot 160 gn ace heads because I like the head and to keep point weight down I use swagged 640gn aluminum to eliminate the 26gn insert or wood shafts. I don't like alot of weight up front.

I shoot 150 gr. heads on a size 500 carbon cut to 29.25" bop. It's a Bearpaw Ferguson Heavy Hunter shaft, so it weighs the same as a 2016 aluminum shaft. No need for heavy point, insert, plastic tube, weedeater line, etc.

Guess I haven’t weighed in here yet..... :p

I shoot 125s on 600s from a fairly quick #55@28” LB and a faster #50@28” LB. Drawing both to around 27” and no, I haven’t had either on a scale.

But they bare-shaft we’ll from both bows, and I don’t see any need to hobble a good bow with an overweight arrow.

That said. I’m looking to work up a load using a 500 and an Ace Std. 165 for bigger critters.

Hal9000, my bet is on the cut past center ILF riser. They will tolerate stiffer spine since the arrow doesn't have to bend as much.

If folks would start with the closest static spine, anyone could use 150 or less on carbon.

I shoot 150 or 125 on all my carbons. 500 or 600 spines, in GT Trads or GT Hunters, at 30 to 30-1/2". If I need weight to tune properly, I use heavier brass inserts, or weights that screw into the back of the insert, or both.

I shot 30 inch axis 340s with 250 grain heads, switched to full length 340s and had to drop to 125 to get good flight. I use cutthroat broad heads which are durable even at that relatively light weight.

I shoot 125 on my GT 600 29” and 145 on my GT 500 27 1/2” . 40# and 44#

125 gr Magnus Stinger, 2 blade mounted to GT3555, out of 50# selfbow. Works for me for the last 7 years.

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