Watching a Youtuber last night. One that will try to "teach" us how to shoot a bow. Draws quickly, snaps the release hand back fro anchor to back over his shoulder, and points the bow at the ground at the shot too. Looks like crap like he's trying to be some kind of Olympic shooter maybe, and claims he's an instinctive shooter too. I dont agree with his style. Looks very discombobulated :~) I always believe the bow arm and hand should be there, unmoving, like a tree branch. British guy, goes by the name Grizzly Jim Archery Adventures. Wondering your thoughts.

Everyone has their own style, AS long as it works for him and he is hitting where he aimed then dont let it bother you.

He is a pretty decent shot, he was on the UK team shooting WA3D worlds in France last Sept, very nice guy to talk to.

Think he plans to shoot Trad Worlds this year, maybe you can fling some arrows with Him :-)

And to be on that team for WA3D worlds he has to be a top 3 Archer in the UK, so it might be unorthodox but it obviously works for Him.

Top 3 archer in the UK? He got beat pretty badly. He's got a video talking about all his problems there. Don't think the style works too well for him eh?

If you don't like his style dont copy it. No one is forcing you to watch his videos either. Go make your own youtube if you think you have something better to contribute to the archery community.

He just set up his own company and said shooting took a back seat leading up to that tourney.

Some tough competition in that tourney, not everyone can be a winner, I respect anyone that puts himself out there on the world stage for everyone to see them win and fail, a lot of people wont Even try.

He has a lot of videos over on youtube, and he talks about struggling for awhile and not even able to make videos. We all go through that I believe at some point or another. Check out some of his others shooting 3D targets. Looks like he was doing pretty well there.

I just watched a couple of his video's. To my notion about 99% would do well to immulate exactly what he does--consistent form.

:^)

I think his form looks great. Very consistent and great back tension. Also seems like a great guy. Don't know how you could hate on a guy like this. Seems very humble and not cocky at all. just loves to shoot the bow just Like all of of us. He never claims that his way is the only way and he never claims he is the best shot in the world (although he is very good).

I really like how this little lady has it "going on."

:^)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a96tGRXvM0

Fred Bear had an unorthodox style too. Pretty good shot though! Hmmmmm?

My thoughts about him? When he was with Merlin Archery doing bow reviews, many here would like to shoot like him based on where the arrow was ending. Including you.

archery is a sport in which you can basicly go against all of what we consider correct form, and learn to shoot successfully. The caviat is that you have to be consistent from shot to shot.

I always thought Ricky Welch had an awful wavy follow through but he won a heap of tournaments so it was right for him, I would never recommend anyone copy that style, it was Ricky's

Really what is perfect form supposed to look like, excluding Olympic target I've not seen any top Field/3D archer with the exact same Form, and nobody has perfect Form (because we're not robots)

Ok so he's got great form and good back tension. He whiffed his FIRST FIVE shots in tournament and scored low by his own words so I'm supposed to want to emulate him? Think not. If you cant practice because you are opening a business, then don't go.

It seems to me that even though form may vary , certain components such as concentration , hand-eye coordination , consistent anchor etc. are critical to championship archery performance . Did home run champions such as Ruth , Mantle , Maris , and Williams have the same swing ?

Even if his form isn't exactly what mine is, I enjoy his videos. They get me excited about shooting my bows. And ultimately isn't that what it's all about?

Does it really matter why talk about him like this that's his issue not any of ours is it. Just saying. LOL

What does watching him do for us or should I say what can we gain. Junk in Junk out be careful what you watch and talk about that it don't creep into your head or style.LOL

Seems like a happy guy who enjoys instinctive shooting with friends. Anyone would hard pressed to find a group of friends who shoot that well.

I liked his discussion of what instinctive shooting means to him--I think he's been reading the threads about it on Leatherwall!

what is the point of you making a post to whine about him? IF he is not your cup of tea then don't watch. crying on the Leatherwall won't make anything change.

THe one thing that determines good form is how repeatable it is. If you see a guy shoot and he's hitting the spot consistently he has repeatable form for himself. Might not be repeatable for you.

Take a look at Demmer at Lancaster this year and watch is follow through. Then go look at Brady in the Oly finals. Brady has what I'd call classic oly form. Fingers right behind the ear still curled. It's like wow!!!

Demmer on the other hand is not the same but the two have consistency in common.

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Jamse, you need to go to the big thread and prove you can hit a 9" paper plate from 15 yards. I don't know what that really proves, but second thought, who needs to prove a damn thing to anyone anyway. Do you want to shoot like an Olympic shooter at a deer from a tree stand? Some will say that is the only way. hill told John Schulz and his brother to make up their minds whether they wanted to hunt or shoot targets, because the tow do not go together. That is more true today than it has been. Traditional archery is turning more and more into a bunch of lame flat ground static target shooters. "My shoulder hurts, I need a crossbow." One needs a doctor signed slip to get that in Iowa, the manly men around here are going that route to prove that they are more manly. It is easy to have repeatable form with a crossbow. I watched a former compound expert empty his quiver on 100 plus yard shots at a buck last fall. He was constantly badgering everyone about how bad they were and how good he was, when he shot compounds. Now that he has his crossbow, he is the greatest of all time. Problem is he must have confused rabbit turds for smart pills, that happens more often than you might think.

It was his first international world's anyone without that experience can be overwhelmed by the event and perform below normal expectations.

He earned his place on the team to represent his country, had the balls to openly talk about failing, pretty humble and open guy.

Maybe you can tell us where you placed at any major tournament

Did he ask you to emulate him? Can you out shoot him? Ever watched the man shoot that has no arms. His form is rather strange. He is seated and holds the bow with a bare foot and pulls with his teeth.Maybe the leather tab attached to his string should be outlawed so he couldn't beat us. He is not a whiner,complainer,or crybaby. We would do well to emulate him.>>>----> Ken

I was at the Worlds this week end pretty impressive. The pressures of target competition and hunting are almost opposite for me. With target shooting a failed on the final shots. With hunting you must succeed in one shot and quite often that can be a bit unorthodox from a target shooters perspective. You can do all of the static shooting you want and claim it to be anything you want, I don't care.

I have watched most if not all of his videos and he is a very stand up guy. He tries to help people and is honest in his statements. He has been to some great gatherings with others who enjoy shooting a stick bow. He also said he came in like 36-37 place with 50 shooters, that's pretty good in my book especially top World shooters.

Remember when you point your finger at someone you have 3 more pointing back at you and in this case it sure makes sense. Belittle someone else and maybe no one will notice me.

If I could shoot as well as he, I would be copying his form to a T. And to qualify for your country's world contingent, I would think you'd have to be a pretty damn good shot. I doubt if your form disqualifies one from the team. Pretty sure it depends on where the arrow ends up.

Personally, I find his videos very entertaining if not informative.

Think you got it Bowmannia.

Repeatable is a good thing as long as performance is good.

Have a close friend who won the Masters and he said when he gambled for a living to support his family after WWII through the early fifties, he always watched the guys closely who had an ugly swing.

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