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Black Hunter

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Dean 02-Feb-18
Dean 02-Feb-18
1/2miledrag 02-Feb-18
1/2miledrag 02-Feb-18
monkeyball 02-Feb-18
Brian waters 02-Feb-18
Dean 02-Feb-18
Jim Keller 03-Feb-18
Chas 03-Feb-18
fdp 03-Feb-18
Jim Keller 03-Feb-18
Chad4372 03-Feb-18
Chas 03-Feb-18
Chas 03-Feb-18
Chad4372 03-Feb-18
MStyles 03-Feb-18
Stix 03-Feb-18
monkeyball 03-Feb-18
Stix 03-Feb-18
Stickbow Felty 03-Feb-18
Lowcountry 03-Feb-18
stykman 03-Feb-18
DarrinG 03-Feb-18
Brian waters 03-Feb-18
Shawn 03-Feb-18
Twisted Branch 04-Feb-18
sheepdogreno 04-Feb-18
SteveD 04-Feb-18
Dean 05-Feb-18
Dean 05-Feb-18
indianalongbowshoote 05-Feb-18
Dean 05-Feb-18
indianalongbowshoote 05-Feb-18
Ronin 22-Feb-18
Red Beastmaster 31-Mar-18
smj8322 01-Apr-18
smj8322 01-Apr-18
Dean 01-Apr-18
ground hunter 01-Apr-18
Adam Howard 01-Apr-18
Adam Howard 01-Apr-18
smj8322 01-Apr-18
bluej 01-Apr-18
Longtrad 01-Apr-18
Red Beastmaster 04-Apr-18
RG 05-Apr-18
Red Beastmaster 05-Apr-18
K Cummings 05-Apr-18
Red Beastmaster 05-Apr-18
Red Beastmaster 07-Apr-18
Codjigger 07-Apr-18
Red Beastmaster 08-Apr-18
Two Arrows 09-Apr-18
David McLendon 12-Apr-18
thevienneau 07-May-18
thevienneau 07-May-18
gluetrap 07-May-18
442W30 15-May-18
RymanCat 15-May-18
George D. Stout 15-May-18
monkeyball 15-May-18
sir misalots 15-May-18
Longtrad 15-May-18
RG 16-May-18
Stix 16-May-18
George D. Stout 16-May-18
David McLendon 16-May-18
George D. Stout 16-May-18
RG 16-May-18
David McLendon 16-May-18
David McLendon 16-May-18
thevienneau 17-May-18
grizz 17-May-18
Red Beastmaster 18-May-18
From: Dean
Date: 02-Feb-18

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Hello! Just received my Black Hunter Longbow, what a great bow! The riser fits my hand perfectly, the bamboo limbs are smooth to my 31" draw length, and it shoots great! I cannot say enough about this bow, especially for $130! I purchased it from: Mandarinduck.com

From: Dean
Date: 02-Feb-18

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From: 1/2miledrag
Date: 02-Feb-18




A guy at my leaugue is shooting one, a recurve, and he loves it. Some others who have shot it were really impressed as well. I haven't shot one, buy they're very good looking bows, seem to be great performers, and you cannot beat the price. Congrats on a great bow!

From: 1/2miledrag
Date: 02-Feb-18




But, not "buy".....sheeesh

From: monkeyball
Date: 02-Feb-18




That is a fantastic price, but your website does not come thru when I try to enter it.

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: Brian waters
Date: 02-Feb-18




Yep, i have the longbow and recurve. Sweet lil bows for sure. Got my recurve for $109.

From: Dean
Date: 02-Feb-18




Sorry, I typed the wrong web address, the correct address is: mandarinduck.net

From: Jim Keller
Date: 03-Feb-18




Is that the same bow as the galaxy that LAS sells?

From: Chas
Date: 03-Feb-18

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Jim..yes, I believe they're the same bow. I agree, the grip fits like a glove and a darn good shooter for the money. Here's mine with a little rattle can camo.

And those are some great prices!

From: fdp
Date: 03-Feb-18




So here's a question, and I'm not being sarcastic.

And understand I thing that's a pretty sharp looking bow as well.

What does "darn good shooter for the money" (and Chas, I'm not picking on you. The way your comment is worded is just very common) and such things actually mean? A person can either shoot a bow, or not. And how much it costs rarely has anything to do with that, except in our psyche.

If the bow cost $300.00 would it still fall in to the "darn good shooter" for the money category, or would it be over priced?

From: Jim Keller
Date: 03-Feb-18




I got my son in law a galaxy recurve for Christmas. He loves it and so did I. I had to shoot it a bit first.

And it's a real good shooter for the money:))

From: Chad4372
Date: 03-Feb-18




Is the poundage that is marked on the limb accurate? I read one review where the bow was heavier than listed.

Been thinking about one myself.

Thanks, Chad

From: Chas
Date: 03-Feb-18




FDP...QUIT PICKING ON ME!!! :). No worries buddy and your right, I could have been more descriptive. My comments were directed towards how pleasant this bow is to draw, arrow speed is good and the post shot feel is pleasant as well. Very little vibration and noise. I guess that can be said about most bows if tuned properly however some bows draw cycle can be harsh, post shot can rattle your teeth and so on...

"A person can either shoot a bow, or not." I have to disagree, all bows if not broke can be shot but to be honest your quote above is as ambiguous as mine..how can a bow NOT be shot..haha.

From: Chas
Date: 03-Feb-18




Chad, I cannot speak for other bows but I bought mine from Twig's Archery, a 50#'er. They weigh their bows before shipping and mine came marked 49#'s which was spot on using my scale as well.

From: Chad4372
Date: 03-Feb-18




Found the review:

"I put it on a scale, and was disappointed to find the 35# limbs I ordered came up at 43# @ 28".

Just makes me little nervous if one would be almost 10#'s over. But this is the only non- postive (can't really call it a negative review) response that I found.

Or order from Twig and get the correct one.

Thanks, Chad

From: MStyles
Date: 03-Feb-18




For what it is, for the money ....^<>^

From: Stix
Date: 03-Feb-18




Wow and I thought I was getting a great deal when I paid 150 for mine

From: monkeyball
Date: 03-Feb-18




When they first came out you paid $199, and at that price I thought they were a deal.

$ for $ they will shoot with bows that you choose to spend a lot more money on, and the quality is right there also.

Dean, what did they charge you to ship that tyd. That is a company in China correct?

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: Stix
Date: 03-Feb-18




Mine was marked 55, but weighed 58 on my scale. I did a draw force curve on mine and it stacked significantly after 28". 2 1/2 - 3 lbs up to 28", 4 1/2 lbs thereafter.

From: Stickbow Felty
Date: 03-Feb-18




Nice camo job Chuck.

From: Lowcountry
Date: 03-Feb-18




Good looking bow. Actually looks a lot like my Jeffery Royal Mag Hunter, but the Black Hunter is a lot cheaper.

From: stykman
Date: 03-Feb-18




That is a looker for sure and for that price I don't think there's that much out there to top it.

But I have a question. And I'm not trying to be sarcastic either but as long as we're delving in to other's "very common" comments, I need to know what does "And understand I thing that's a pretty sharp looking bow as well" mean? Not very common syntax.

From: DarrinG
Date: 03-Feb-18




Apparently they don’t offer a Left Hand riser. :(

From: Brian waters
Date: 03-Feb-18




Actually they do DarrinG. I just saw 1 last night on thier site, plus lancaster carries them in lefty also.

From: Shawn
Date: 03-Feb-18




You can get free shipping from Chin a but it does take the "slow boat" you still will have it in about 12 -14 days. The only thing you need to do is put a better 15 dollar string on it and you are good to go. They are actually a very nice bow for the money. i have shot a few of them and most companies here are selling for around 160 bucks! Shawn

From: Twisted Branch
Date: 04-Feb-18




Let me see if I understand this right...The Black Hunter comes with maple core limbs....stock, and Boo core is extra..at Twig..the Galaxy Ember has stock Boo core limbs,but is more expensive ,and the Black Hunter Cloud on sale at LAS for $149.00 has the Maple core? (Or exotic?)

From: sheepdogreno
Date: 04-Feb-18




Twig archery goes over this bow on YouTube and there is some impressive numbers through a chrono...I know that's now everything but still impressive

From: SteveD Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 04-Feb-18




Give Twig archery a call or e-mail.They can help and are great folks to deal with.

From: Dean
Date: 05-Feb-18




I purchased it thru mandarinduck.net directly from China. It takes about 3 weeks to get it, but the shipping was free. You can get recurve and longbow limbs, extra limbs are $70.

Measured draw weights for marked 35# @ 28" long bow limbs: 34.5# @ 28" and 41.5# @ 31#

Hope this helps! Dean

From: Dean
Date: 05-Feb-18




...should read 34.5# @ 28" and 41.5# @ 31". Sorry!

From: indianalongbowshoote
Date: 05-Feb-18




I just checked Mandarins shipping and it said 30 bucks to Indiana and 25-30 days for delivery.

From: Dean
Date: 05-Feb-18




When I ordered mine, it gave me an option of either Free Shipping for 25-30 days, or $30 for 3-10 days. I went with the Free shipping...was not really in that much of a hurry for it!

From: indianalongbowshoote
Date: 05-Feb-18




maybe I looked at it wrong.

From: Ronin
Date: 22-Feb-18




Okay, I needed another bow like a hole in my head, but I am a sucker for a good bow at a cheap price. Besides I wanted an all black bow and a take down longbow. So I ordered one and received it today. As soon as I saw the endless loop dacron string it came with I made up a 12 strand/18 strand looped Dynaflight string for the bow.

There are some good things about the bow and some not so good. The good: it shipped quickly (it came in 10 days), it seems very well constructed, nice looking bow with a nice feeling grip, seems to handle my 30.5" draw length with no problem, and it is pretty quick. Now the bad: The bezels and screws that come with the bow are shiny steel instead of black (I will have to black them out or get new ones). I ordered 40# limbs to get a bow around 47#-48# at my draw length. The limbs weigh 44.25# on my scale and 52.5# at my draw length. A little disappointing, but at the price I paid I can live with it. I don't have any silencers on the string yet, but it sounds rather loud for a longbow, but the silencers may fix this. The bow is light and I prefer a little heavier bow so I may tap it and install quiver bushing for a bear quiver. Overall, as of right now, I am happy with the purchase.

From: Red Beastmaster
Date: 31-Mar-18




I ordered a Black Hunter longbow this morning from Twig Archery.

For $199.95 I got a personally weighed and set up bow. It has bamboo limbs, FF string, silencers, rug rest and side plate, and nock - all installed ready to shoot. AND the current special includes a $13 bow stringer. John is one of the nicest people in archery. I was glad to give him my business.

Sounds like some of the bargains out there aren't such bargains.

From: smj8322
Date: 01-Apr-18

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I've had one for a couple months now and for the $130 I paid for it I don't think it can be beat. At least for a new bow. I couldn't handle the all black limbs anymore though so I had them dipped.

From: smj8322
Date: 01-Apr-18




Sorry for the giant pic...

From: Dean
Date: 01-Apr-18




Nice looking limbs! How much did it cost to get dipped?

From: ground hunter
Date: 01-Apr-18




their string is poor,,, get a custom one, and make that bow really shoot well..... never saw the black hunter under 199 so you got a good buy

From: Adam Howard
Date: 01-Apr-18




Got the recurve for my son , awesome bow !!!

From: Adam Howard
Date: 01-Apr-18




Got the recurve for my son , awesome bow !!!

From: smj8322
Date: 01-Apr-18




I purchased mine in pieces. I bought the riser from one guy, limbs from another and ordered a string from Al Shafer at ten ring strings. I'll be paying around $100 for the hydro dipping. Hoping to pick them up tomorrow.

From: bluej
Date: 01-Apr-18




My favorite new bow n I’ve had many!!

From: Longtrad
Date: 01-Apr-18




I got the longbow limbs in 40# great bow, shoots just as good as my customs, nothing seems cheap about it aside from the price tag.

From: Red Beastmaster
Date: 04-Apr-18




I received my bow from Twig this morning, just four days from my order.

WOW! Very nice!

It came with a FF string with cat whiskers and nock pt installed. The box also included a free bow stringer and Allen wrench. The bow had a nice rug rest installed as well. The bamboo limbs were weighed prior to shipment to assure 45# @ 28". All this for $199.95!

I had time to assemble and string it up. I drew it a few times and got that aaahh feeling. Then I hung it up and headed to work. :(

I'm sure this bow and I will do some amazing things together. I shot my buddies bow and had some very nice groups. Can't wait for some decent weather to try it out.

From: RG
Date: 05-Apr-18




I ordered mine from Twig on 3/28. Still waiting... USPS showed it was going to be delivered by 8pm today. No show! Hopefully it will show up by Friday before I leave for turkey season Friday evening.

From: Red Beastmaster
Date: 05-Apr-18




I waited 28 months once for a custom bow. 16 months overdue! I missed two entire hunting seasons.

Hang in there.

From: K Cummings
Date: 05-Apr-18




"Is that the same bow as the galaxy that LAS sells?"

FWIW, there are a couple versions of this bow on the market. Some have maple core limbs and some have bamboo core limbs.

The versions that Lancaster (Galaxy Ember) and Twig (Black Hunter) sell have bamboo core limbs. Not sure about the other retailers mentioned.

Either way, looks like a heck of a bow for the dollar.

KPC

From: Red Beastmaster
Date: 05-Apr-18




Yes, the Black Hunter and Galaxy Ember are the same bow.

From: Red Beastmaster
Date: 07-Apr-18




I had a chance to shoot my bow in the cold wind a couple times before work this week. The 42# @ 27" zips 1916's and 1816's equally well. I just looked at the bow and grinned after shooting some rediculous groups. NEVER shot a bow so well so quickly. Can't wait to shoot in good weather.

I put a bow quiver on it for another test run. It feels good with the extra weight. It's nasty outside but I'm hoping to get out for a shoot.

From: Codjigger
Date: 07-Apr-18




Red B...i got one two days ago and i am doing the same as you in the same weather conditions..strong wind driven snow yesterday. Loving it! ..the bow i mean, not the weather. Sandy

From: Red Beastmaster
Date: 08-Apr-18




I shot a local 3D this morning. No wind! Sunny 25 degrees.

My 1816 Jazz w/4" fletch flew perfectly. Most times right into the spot I wanted.

I'll be having some fun with this bow, especially when the groundhogs start waking up. :)

From: Two Arrows
Date: 09-Apr-18




I just received my Black Hunter today. Purchased it jere through the classifieds from strugglesticks. Fantastic transaction! It went smooth without a hitch. Bow had the bamboo limbs and black hardware. It shot awesome, this coming from a guy who has had numerous, numerous custom bows. The grip is darn near perfect, the weight of it, balance, feel, is all I could hope for. People talk about value for the money. That is true and it is real, but throw that aside and look at it for what it is. It's a true performer, not sexy, but it is comphy as can be. I really Can't believe what a great deal this thing really is. Get hooked up with strugglesticks and he will treat you right. Glad I did.

From: David McLendon
Date: 12-Apr-18




The Girlfriend's bow showed up yesterday, a very impressive little bow. I set it up for 3 under for her today and shot it for about a half hour and came in and ordered me a LH longbow version 55#@28. I'll shoot it for a while and then send it off to have it dipped.

From: thevienneau
Date: 07-May-18

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I own two Black Hunters, longbow and recurve. I was in Beijing last summer and brought my Black Hunter to shoot while there. Chinese were intrigued by it, or maybe it was the odd old white guy with the bow. They told me the Chinese characters on the limbs mean “Sky Spirit”. Photo is taken in an Archery Bar Jain Archery Club I really like this bow!

From: thevienneau
Date: 07-May-18

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The Archery Bar had a pet pig

From: gluetrap
Date: 07-May-18




From: 442W30
Date: 15-May-18




Just an FYI The Black Hunter comes with a Dyneema String. (It is not a Dacron string) It is a high performance string. $199.95 Anniversary special at Twig Archery. (They set it up with nock pt., silencers, shelf and side plate AND a good stringer!!)

From: RymanCat
Date: 15-May-18




Wow we, that is incredible. Especially like the dip as well that's boss.

Its a good shooter for me it hits where I look. OK you found a fit that's great if we have to be politically correct all the time what for? For the perfect sector naught not so that's fake news?

Come on men what the h? Go along with it and raise the feller up he is showing a bargain at a great value. We don't have to Challenge him on his wording do we.

I say any bow should be able to be shot with the proper form and steady at shot by the archer but then for some that's more challenging.

To have to modify shelves and rests and other things is a wives tail!

Thanks for sharing maybe it helps another who looks into this type of bow. Only thing I have to say to add to performance is put the right string on the bow to enhance performance you might get surprised.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 15-May-18




"On my scale" is not a good indicator of the weight, unless you are calibrated and measuring it to the right place. I've seen guys with bow scales that were 5# off and weighing them by hanging the bow on the scale..that adds the mass weight of the bow.

From: monkeyball
Date: 15-May-18




Read some reviews on them and had to give one a whirl (life is to short to not to) and was really impressed.

Bought a pair of Boo limbs from Twig and a couple pounds heavier and was even impressed more.

This one was a "Black Beauty" and shot better than it looked. Some very nice craftsmanship going on overseas.

If your budget only allows a limited expenditure for a well-made, shooting bow......you really need to check this one out.

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: sir misalots
Date: 15-May-18




Are they cut to center?

From: Longtrad
Date: 15-May-18




I have been really impressed with mine, outshoots all of my old vintage classics for sure. I would recommend this way more than a sage and even a few high dollar bows I have shot.

I have the boo longbow limbs and I wouldnt hesitate to buy another.

a very nice feeling and nice shooting bow

From: RG
Date: 16-May-18




I really like mine also. I bought mine from Twig Archery here's a link http://www.twigarchery.com/big-rock-black-hunter-longbow/ I came from shooting a ASL dished grip bow so it took me a few days to hit where I was looking. Don't care for the string that it came with but I've ordered a new string from Allen at Ten Ring Strings

From: Stix
Date: 16-May-18




My bow is marked 55#, but comes in at 58# after properly taring the bow scale. I also did a draw force curve on it and it is pretty linear until 28", after which the draw weight increases asymmetrically higher (ie: it stacks after 28"). If anyone is looking for one, I'll sell mine for $150 shipped, with a d-10 flemished string.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 16-May-18




I've shot both but didn't weigh or put them on a force-draw chart. The longbow feels as though it's may be stacking around 28", the recurve is smooth past that...to my feel and certainly not scientific. To me, the longbow (actually a hybrid) felt very similar to Bob Lee's takedown longbow limbs on the recurve handle. Short limbs that aren't recurved will reach optimum draw much quicker than a recurve that opens as you draw. Still with me, at just over 27" draw, It's not a big deal at all.

From: David McLendon
Date: 16-May-18




I have the Galaxy Ember LB in 55#, I need to check it as it feels pretty strong. My other ride is a Schafer recurve and I'm used to the checkered grip, the Ember grip is pretty slick and a little slim to me so this afternoon I wrestled a Shur-Grip on it and it made about $100 difference in how it feels to me. I liked it before but much better now and I think I may have come up with a couple of previously unheard curse words while installing the grip.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 16-May-18




David, go to a bicycle shop and ask for some of the inner tubes from replaced tires. Most will just give you a few, and you can cut them in one inch strips, as long as you can make them, and they make fine grips. just wrap around starting just under the shelf and finish with some electrical tape to hold it.

From: RG
Date: 16-May-18




HAHAHA!! Mr. McLendon!! I put a bicycle intertube on mine. Yes it was lots of fun to put on but made a huge difference . My groups tightened up for sure.

From: David McLendon
Date: 16-May-18

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From: David McLendon
Date: 16-May-18

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They are NBD on a straight grip but anything resembling a recurve is a chore. There are some tricks to making it easier but it is never fun, but it won't have t be done again for a long time, unless I decide to dip the bow. I did get 6 shots in before a storm hit here and it does make a huge improvement.

From: thevienneau
Date: 17-May-18




I wish there was a "like" or "wow" button

From: grizz
Date: 17-May-18




Looks good. Thinking about one myself.

From: Red Beastmaster
Date: 18-May-18




I installed a Sure Grip on mine the other day.

Take the limbs off, slide it on the bottom as far as it will go, stand it on a table, start to roll it on, wrestle, sweat, cuss, tug the roll w/pliers. Whew! Easy peazy.

I really like how a Sure Grip improves an already excellent grip on the Black Hunter. I have one on every bow I own.





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