From: Longcruise
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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One of our members PM'd me regarding how I have set up to dowel my shafts. Since PM does not seem to support photo sharing I'm opening this topic instead.
The device I use is a Veritas 3/8" doweler. They also offer an adjustable model that will cut varying sizes.
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From: Longcruise
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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In order to get even clean cuts it's crucial to control the wobble of the stock as it enters and leaves the doweler. Once the shaft exits the doweler the plastic tube serves to prevent whipping which will result in an uneven cut.
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From: Longcruise
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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Once the shafts are sanded they will come in at about 23/64'. sometimes I use a taper jig to take them down smaller to 23/64 or 11/32 at the point end and 5/16 or a bit larger at the nock end.
The taper jig is a simple set up with two angle irons mounted on a board with sandpaper blued to the inside surfaces. The angles are infinitely adjustable for whatever taper rate desired and are long enough to taper full length up to 36 inches.
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From: Longcruise
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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When you get done you have some dandy emergency fire starting material to carry on your hunts.
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From: Longcruise
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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Here's a six footer teak shaft for an atlatl.
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From: Longcruise
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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A better pic of the entire doweling jig
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From: Longcruise
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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These are in progress. Leaving the stubs till last makes for good handles. These will be plain green with a plain fletch in case they might go to the turkey woods.
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From: Longcruise
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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Here are a few more that have come out of the jig.
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From: Longcruise
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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If you apply a footing to a blank and plane off the ears you can run the entire footed blank through the jig.
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From: tracy warren
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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That's a very nice set up.
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From: Snag
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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I bought this old doweler from Dave Doran not long again. Still getting it fine tuned. But it’s showing some promise.
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From: unhinged
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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I have one of the Veritas adjustable doweler, it work good. Your tapering jig is great! Simple and looks effective
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From: Bob Rowlands
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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i also have the veritas adjustable doweler. works great.
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From: Bob Rowlands
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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i can tell you it is very satisfying shoving 1/2" square blanks into that veritas tool and pulling good straight grained arrow shafts out the back. beats buying them hands down. any guy that does that will know what i,m talking about.
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From: Bob Rowlands
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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it,s ALL about the wood grain and that is why i spend considerable time looking at the grain in the 8/4 boards i make my shafts from. very rare to find a superb hickory board but it is exciting when you get one. like a kid at Christmas. i also make doug fir shafts in fact they are my favorite the grain is naturally pretty straight. finding the right density is the trick.
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From: Longcruise
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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I fin a lot of good DF at Lowe's but it doesn't cut very smooth. Probably cuts smoother with the double blade unit.
The smoothest for me has been poplar.
The green ones above are from a premium pine board. They are not very stiff and may end up kids arrows.
My dirty secret is that I don't spine them at all. I get a feel for the stiffness by hand and shoot and tune. Pretty low tech but then so are my bows.
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From: unhinged
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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Dowelers are nice. You do need to sharpen the cutters a lot, if you want clean smooth shafts.
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From: Bob Rowlands
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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If you have problem with tear out hone your cutting blade SHARP. Even with two plane blades in my Veritas, doug fir will tear out if the blades aren't honed sharp. I hone mine with a green DMT.
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From: Jon Stewart
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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A buddy has the double cut Veriata. He brings it to Thursday night bow making once in awhile and we spend the night making arrow shafts. As mentioned, it is fun turn 1/2 square stock into an arrow.
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From: Jim Davis
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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my router doweling setup makes great burnished shafts from 3/8" or smaller squares. Less waste, no tearout, even with DF. Thousands of shafts with the same router bit.
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From: bodymanbowyer
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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Sweet that rig and nice work. JF
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From: Bob Rowlands
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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Jim you should show your shaft making rig.
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From: Longcruise
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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I think a router set up would be ideal but I'm not set up for one as far as tools are concerned.
Would love to see a tutorial on how to build one though.
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From: StikBow
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Date: 01-Feb-18 |
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Yes, let us see the router.. thanks to long cruise and snag for the above.
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From: two4hooking
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Date: 02-Feb-18 |
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I've done the identical setup Longcruise and it does work great. I really like the idea of the PVC to keep them from whipping on the outfeed! great idea!
I photocopied someone's router plans from here before on an old thread years ago and have it at home somewhere. I always wanted to set up the router but haven't gotten around to fiddling with it. In fact, when my son was born I just end up buying wood shafts and tapering them by hand.
One day I'll have more time and get back into it.
I thought about the footing idea also. It would be easier to sand the ears of the footing off when the blank was still square. Have to try that.
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From: Jim Davis
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Date: 02-Feb-18 |
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Stikbow, sorry, I quit watching the thread so didn't see your request. The photos have been on the 'wall several times, but here they are again. I can make shafts any size I want by making another outfeed bushing and adjusting the cut.
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From: Jim Davis
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Date: 02-Feb-18 |
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Stikbow, sorry, I quit watching the thread so didn't see your request. The photos have been on the 'wall several times, but here they are again. I can make shafts any size I want by making another outfeed bushing and adjusting the cut.
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From: Jim Davis
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Date: 02-Feb-18 |
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Stikbow, sorry, I quit watching the thread so didn't see your request. The photos have been on the 'wall several times, but here they are again. I can make shafts any size I want by making another outfeed bushing and adjusting the cut.
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From: Jon Stewart
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Date: 02-Feb-18 |
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Batman: The guy that owns the two stage doweler paid around $380.00 some time ago BUT it paid for itself many times over as he makes shafts and sells them at archery shoot at a reasonable price so he sells out every time. I know one Thursday night 6 of us made more arrow shafts than we will probably ever use out of all kinds of woods.
Longcruise: can you show your wood set up for footing before you run it thru the dowel maker?
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From: Bob Rowlands
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Date: 02-Feb-18 |
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If I was making shafts to sell be assured it would NOT be with my Veritas tool, good as it is it is an amateurs doweler.
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From: Longcruise
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Date: 02-Feb-18 |
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Jon, my setup is just the same as doing a two wing footing with round stock. Plane or grind the arrow stock into a wedge and saw a kerf into the footing material. Clamp the footer stock tight at the base of the kerf then glue the wedge into the kerf and add some clamps along the wings of the footer material.
Once the glue is cured you can use a small hand plane to remove the wings so you end up with a square blank with a footing on it. Then it goes through the doweler.
Sorry I don't have any additional pictures.
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From: StikBow
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Date: 02-Feb-18 |
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Thank you Jim. What router bit do you use?
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From: Jim Davis
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Date: 02-Feb-18 |
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I use a straight bit. I think any shape would work, since the stock is rotating. I ought to try a concave cutting edge to see if there is any difference, but since it ain't broke...
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