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Beman White Out

Messages posted to thread:
Wojo14 12-Jan-18
GUTPILE PA 12-Jan-18
ShadeHaven 12-Jan-18
Wojo14 12-Jan-18
GUTPILE PA 12-Jan-18
George D. Stout 12-Jan-18
hawkeye in PA 12-Jan-18
aromakr 12-Jan-18
RymanCat 12-Jan-18
Wojo14 12-Jan-18
EF Hutton 18-Jan-18
dean 18-Jan-18
Therifleman 18-Jan-18
dean 18-Jan-18
GF 18-Jan-18
sheepdogreno 18-Jan-18
dean 18-Jan-18
GF 18-Jan-18
From: Wojo14
Date: 12-Jan-18




Hours on the Beman White Out shafts? I am kinda interested because i really like to fletch my arrows with all white, even my wraps. My eyes really track white. Plus it is pretty easy to find white in the woods. Which brings me to my question of will it be “bright” in the woods to the animals? ~Wojo

From: GUTPILE PA
Date: 12-Jan-18




No that's all I use

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 12-Jan-18




I personally never liked having my arrows on a bow quiver, about of deer catching the movement of the contrast in color. This guy ^ (gutpile) gave me hip quiver i strap to my pack. That solved that.

From: Wojo14
Date: 12-Jan-18




Gutpile, you use these white shafts? You use bow quiver? ~Wojo

From: GUTPILE PA
Date: 12-Jan-18




I use all white feathers and nock n bow quiver not white shafts

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 12-Jan-18




You will see white feathers on a black shaft, as good as white feathers on a white shaft. If your arrows are flying properly, all you will see is feathers and nock, so the color of the shaft is relatively meaningless. Shaft colors are purely personal of course, but I've never seen a need to have white ones. I like bright fletching though.

From: hawkeye in PA
Date: 12-Jan-18




Had a hunter tell me some years back he was watching my white fletched arrow's in the bow quiver.........through a scope. My hunting arrows are no longer fletcher in white.

From: aromakr Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 12-Jan-18




How do White tail deer signal one an other? Ah! with their white tail!!! I would suspect they pay close attention to anything white.

Bob

From: RymanCat
Date: 12-Jan-18




White never meant anything in woods to me its not like your waving the arrow around like a flag now is it or do you or others do that when ya fidget? If you shot enough animals with white fletch you would have realized no effect what soever and its foolish to think that it would effect any animal. Its like saying other colors matters when it don't like pink or flo orange or bright colors to name a few.

Just like some think gloss on a bow matters when it don't. What matters more is movement always did and always will most of the time.

If your arrow is tuned properly you should be seeing the nocks. I have trouble seeing white myself and like bright flo nocks those I can see usually so much better.

From: Wojo14
Date: 12-Jan-18




“How do White tail deer signal one an other? Ah! with their white tail!!! I would suspect they pay close attention to anything white. Bob“

GOOD POINT! ~WOJO

From: EF Hutton
Date: 18-Jan-18




I have 4 of these on the way. Got tired of black.

Gonna fletch 2 orange, 1 autum brown. Old school. I remember that scheme on alums in the early 80's.

From: dean
Date: 18-Jan-18




I used to like white feathers, but hated them when hunting in snow. I split the difference, fluorescent chartreuse, the strongest color in low light conditions and still have contrast to snow. From 79 to 84 my go to hunting bow was a white glass string follow shooting white fletched arrows. if the deer, pheasants and turkeys saw it, they did comment about what it meant to them. Sorry folks the size and shape of the white may make a difference, a big white beard or shiny face with eyeballs alerts game more than a white bow or a white fletched arrow. I think a dark colored bow with a large rack of arrows on it alerts game quicker than the white sliver of a white longbow. Deer and turkeys are terrified of coyotes and bobcats. Not a lot of white on them.

From: Therifleman
Date: 18-Jan-18




Even with well tuned arrows the all white shaft shows up better and tracks better from the arc standpoint. The lower you anchor and or shoot split finger and the further you are shooting the more you will benefit from the all white shaft. If you are shooting a crawl at 15 yards and your arrows are tuned, all you should see is the back end of your feathers and nock.

From: dean
Date: 18-Jan-18




I find that I can shoot better with arrows that are easier to see, I quite often crest a bright color for a couple of inches behind the point on dark shafts. I know that I use the arrow to aim, and the quicker I can get aimed the better my aim gets. Bob Swinehart used white and blue, I prefer bright yellow of fluorescent blue or chartreuse. Again the aiming in snow issue white is hard to see quickly on snow.

From: GF
Date: 18-Jan-18




FWIW, Safety Orange or Hot Pink is much less visible to ungulates than white is, and much harder for humans to mistake for game. That story about being checked out through a rifle scope scares the snot out of me, especially when I think about hunting public land and crossing paths with a new-to-bowhunting crossbow shooter.

Less of an issue if you sit up high in a tree.

In-flight: as a split-finger shooter, I do see my shafts when they fly poorly; I see fletchings ALWAYS. When I’m evaluating my tune, I’ve recently discovered that I really prefer all-white fletchings; I love a high-contrast cock feather, but dark cock/light hens combo tends to appear to be flickering & bouncing as the shaft spins, and I can’t tell as well whether what I think I’m seeing is really happening.

One other thought on seeing shafts in flight; much easier with a high contrast background. A lot of my shafts are black these days, and I love some snow on the ground. Especially if I’m using the slow-mo mode on my phone to slow things down a little....

For aiming purposes, contrast is the thing. No matter how deliberately you use the arrow and no matter how fervently you might believe that you ignore it or can’t see it, it is THERE in your peripheral vision... which is insensitive to color but very sensitive in low light.... meaning it picks up contrast well.

So a medium-gray stain on your wood shafts might look great and might feel stealthy, but it could be LOUSY for shots at dawn & dusk, especially in a woodlot in November somewhere up north... and now I’m thinking that a guy might want 2 sets of hunting arrows; one set light color for early season where backgrounds tend to be dark browns and greens, and a darker-colored set for later on when there are bright leaves or snow on the ground.

I’m planning to put together some wet-weather arrows with grey goose fletchings and glow-orange caps... I’d been thinking about grey shafts up front, but now am thinking that through again... but maybe dip them in Black for a few inches up front with a half-inch band of white behind the point?

From: sheepdogreno
Date: 18-Jan-18




I read in field and stream that a deers vision is more prone to pick up shades of blue. White shafts would also be great for post shot inspection to help determine what you hit on a critter... lung blood/gut etc. but as far as beman goes that's what I shoot and they are a quality shaft. I like their ics bowhunters

From: dean
Date: 18-Jan-18




Did i tell on here about the plinker squirrel shooter from the eastern hemisphere that shot at a pink thing in a tree with his 22 because he didn't know what it was. Luckily, he missed arrows, bow and hunter. They have been witnessed unloading their 22s on running deer and flying turkeys. Everyone complains, but they are still out there. Yes, it was me that the muzzle loader pointed at, he should have known better. He seemed rather surprised that I would march straight to him to chew his butt.

From: GF
Date: 18-Jan-18




Some days, you just can't win, eh?

Guess you've got to watch for them coming and not be afraid to scream bloody murder at 'em if you see a muzzle tipped your way....





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