Would the 200 grain Grizzly head be good for taking elephant and Cape buff?

I bet it would work fine if its being pushed by a telephone pole. I really have no idea. Curious to here from some folks though....shoot straight

FWIW

I recall reading Chuck Adams talking about bow hunting elephants. Seems the ribs overlap and cannot be shot through. Also, the animal carries the wound/arrow for a long time before expiring. His elephant succumbed to a rifle shot to the brain.

I also recall a story of someone hunting cape buffalo and fabricating an extremely heavy aluminum shaft by first installing one inside another, then filling the hollow with salt?

HHA offers a modern version of Howard's elephant head.

Lol!!!!!

I’ve heard the bit about Cape Buff having overlapping ribs, but elephants certainly don’t need any such thing… and to be honest, I have my doubts about overlapping ribs for anything, as it might make breathing unnecessarily difficult…

Of course, if you center the ramble on an elephant, that maybe I can to centering the femur on an elk! LOL

What about a Strickland Helix?

I don't know about the Cape Buff having the over-lapping ribs? Have heard that their rib structure is very dense so taking one down with archery equipment is NOT easy.

Several people have taken elephants and numerous Cape buffalo with traditional equipment. Cape buffalo don't have overlapping ribs but there is little or no space between them and are over 1/2" thick a 3+ inches wide. I've had clients that have taken Cape buffalo with 135gr Magnus broadhead using 1000gr wood arrows and bows of 70#.

Bob

You need to try a get ahold of Monty Browning. He's done it

I don't know about what broadhead, but I do know how to stop a charging elephant. You take away his credit card. Easy, peasy.

Murray

:^D Murray, that's a good one. :^) Ha!,ha!

Grizzly 200 would not even be the best Grizzly. 175 and 235 are thicker steel and stronger. If I were going to go through the trouble of hunting elephant I'd purchase one of the newer one piece broadheads that weighs even more, 300+ grains.

And this all begs the question of why would anyone want to hunt an elephant in the first place?

43# with a properly tuned bowed, sure no problem

I read somewhere that Howard Hills elephant broadheads weighed 1900 grains or maybe the whole shaft?

Bob, Just out of curiosity ,how does one get a 1000 grain wood arrow? .Using ash or some other type of hardwood? Thank you

Plastic resin

"And this all begs the question of why would anyone want to hunt an elephant in the first place? "

I agree strongly. Why would anyone want to kill this gentle creature?

Elephant numbers are controlled out of necessity. It is true that with out Human intervention Mother nature will balance the herd. That means Death by starvation and disease. Controlled hunting is the HUMAIN way to balance the herd. It benefits the animals greatly as the money raised buys land, pays wardens, reimburses farmers for crop damage, provides jobs, and makes Elephant's economically important to local Government, witch motivates them to protect and provide habitat for the Elephants. Elephants are eating machines, they will literally eat themselves out of habitat. Real life is not Disney, sorry about that.

“Why would anyone want to kill this gentle creature?”

Isn’t that what the Antis and PETA people say about deer?? Or bunny rabbits? Maybe the feral horses and burros that are trashing the desert Southwest?

FWIW, if you wound a whitetail, the chances of it running you down, stomping you flat, stirring the mixture with its antlers and then working your carcass into the soil under its hooves and knees.... just not that great.

And the only time that a rutting whitetail will typically attack and gore a human is when some well-intentioned (but badly misguided) human has raised it such that it thinks that female humans are the prospective mates and male humans are the competition for mating rights. You get a bull Elephant in Musth and that sucker can take out a whole village, even if he’s not good and drunk on a belly-full of fermented fruit....

I have heard from fairly credible resources that while African elephants ARE endangered overall, there are places where they’re too numerous; just like the deer are, here in the US... So if there are no places that will take in the surplus animals, what are the locals supposed to do?

They can kill them themselves or let westerners pay big $$ for the privilege.

It's called a trophy if you travel to hunt it. And they are a big commodty, especially for poachers and are endangered nearly everywhere they are native. They are known to congregate in areas of saferty, thereby becoming "too numerous"

I did a Cape Buffalo hunt in S.A. this past July. I was shooting an 86lb @26 (my draw length) black widow. Abowyer Brown Bear 175 glue on arrow was 1100 grains total. The arrow hit center rib and snapped in half. I spent 5 days trying to get close enough for another arrow but had to finish the hunt with a 375 h&h on the last day of the hunt. Here's a link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/edit? o=U&video_id=JO0QOl_6v1Q

I did a Cape Buffalo hunt in S.A. this past July. I was shooting an 86lb @26 (my draw length) black widow. Abowyer Brown Bear 175 glue on arrow was 1100 grains total. The arrow hit center rib and snapped in half. I spent 5 days trying to get close enough for another arrow but had to finish the hunt with a 375 h&h on the last day of the hunt. Here's a link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/edit? o=U&video_id=JO0QOl_6v1Q

That was the broadhead which snapped in half. I did some test shots after the Buff was dead, 2 complete pass thru and 2 stuck in the off side rib. Also, was able to get about 12" penetration with a 55lb bow. The ribs don't overlap but are wide and thick and very little room in between.

Holy moly Larry, that was quite a bow set up and feat, congrats

My friend who has taken both used the Tuff head with a 75# Black Widow powering a very heavy shaft.

TMBB

I believe it was Paul Schafer who inserted a 1816 shaft inside a 2219 shaft, is my memory correct?

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