From: Red Dogs
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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Is it the use of Fascor?? And what exactly is Fascor? I recently bought a used Super Grizzly and it doesn't seem much different than my other Grizzly, other than it says it has Fascor, as does my Super Kodiak. And does anyone know when they started making the Super Grizzly? And did they make regular Grizzlies at the same time or phase them out? Thanks.
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From: HiTor
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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Maybe marketing? If a grizzly is good, a super grizzly has got to be better! I own both the supers and the regulars in both lines as well as a Super 48. In the case of the Kodiaks, in 1967 there was a major design change with the introduction of the Kodiak Hunter. The Super Kodiak carried on the design characteristics of 1965 & 1966 Kodiaks. The model names of Kodiak and Grizzly were so iconic, it was great marketing to continue using these names in new designs rather than come up with a distinctive new name. They may also have been running out of ferocious sounding bear names. Would you be bragging "I shot a Booner with my Teddy Bear"?
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From: Draven
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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Read here about Fascor:
http://leatherwall.bowsite.com/TF/lw/thread2.cfm?threadid=277080&category=88#3965005
Super Grizzly has Fascor limbs and is FF capable, the Grizzly has normal 2 lams maple limbs and is not FF capable. This is the info for new models.
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From: Salvador 06
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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The super grizzly is from the 70's, not sure on the years. I don't know if there are any differences with the regular grizzlies, I suspect not. I have one with a red stripe and its a nice bow.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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Super Grizzly...used Fascor in the limbs, impregnated maple versus no impregnated in the regular Grizzly. Don't know if it made it super, but it made it different.
Super Kodiak...a slimmed down version of the Kodiak, started when Owen Jeffery was brought to work for Bear. Jeffery slimmed down both the hunting and target bows and created what was called the stability triangle in those bows. The first Super Kodiak was also all phenolic, the later two years phenolic and rosewood...then in 1970 all Futurewood.
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From: Red Dogs
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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I'm guessing mine is from the 70's as well. Red stripe also. Real nice bow - for a Bear :) I'm really a Howatt guy! It has tip overlays but FF wasn't even around then, but some folks say you can use it on most older bows. I might try it. But it shoots pretty good now. Pretty quiet now with nothing on the string (endless loop). Thanks
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From: PECO
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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The Original Super Grizzly was available in the mid-1970s and was reintroduced in 2011 to the delight of archers who prefer a smooth shooting feel. The Super Grizzly's performance is based, in part, on two layers of lamination in the limbs, creating a better feeling, better shooting bow without hand shock.
The Grizzly has only one limb lamination.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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PECO, the old Grizzly bows all had two lams. That one lam thing started in Gainesville, not Grayling. Back then the difference was just the material..impregnated maple versus plain.
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From: PECO
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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Thanks George, my reference was the new bows. I guess if the guy was asking about Fascor he wanted to know about the old ones!
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From: Hal9000
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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"What makes a Grizzly (or Kodiak) "Super"... Big Al on South Park :)
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From: lostaro
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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Been using FF on my Grizzly for years?? Am I missing something???
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From: Kodiaktd
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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Grayling Bows:
Super Grizzly 1973 to 1976
Super Kodiak 1967 1/2 to 1976
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From: Kodiaktd
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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The first Bear Super Kodiak appeared in the Bear Archery 1967 1/2 catalog.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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I have a Fastflight Plus on my 1972 Browning Nomad Stalker, and also on my 1968 Black Hawk Scorpion...and it has no tip overlays. I've got several hundred shots through the Scorpion as well with that BCY-X string by Stilldub.
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From: dean
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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We have a 47 pound Grayling Griz with the impregnated riser, and we had a 52 pound Super Griz and a earlier version with the dark hard wood riser, they all have a two lam cores, newer ones have the single core. I am not sure what the Fastcore does, but it seemed to have less vibration. I am going to sell the 47 pounder and a Wing one of these days. Waiting for my daughter in-law to decide what she wants to shoot in a Robertson Coy PUP. Neither bow has been off of the rack in years.
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From: camodave
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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All names for production bows are largely a matter of attempting to promote sales. On average a Super Kodiak is a slower bow than a Kodiak.
DDave
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