From: 14cm
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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both 53lb both 600gr arrow, 167 avg I didn't expect this outcome, they both shoot awesome and that's what counts
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From: joe vt
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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I love the green longbow profile!
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From: Styknstrng
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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Sounds like to good shooters....shoot straight
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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There's more goes into zip than length or the weight printed on the side. It's about design, lamination tapers, deflex/reflex amounts, yada, yada, yada. Think about how each bow reaches it's weight and the design involved....plus all the other gozintos that need to be considered. Or better yet, just enjoy shooting them. ))
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From: GF
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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Well, the one on the left does LOOK like it oughtta be faster, but maybe you’re asking the wrong question...
It’d be interesting to see how they stack up if you were to repeat the test in 50- grain increments from 400-700.... POSSIBLE that they’d be just as close across the spectrum, but I wouldn’t bet on it....
Seems to me that there are 2 kinds of Bowhunters - those who have definite ideas as to how many GPP they want to go with (or they’re going to tune their bows to shoot the same arrow), and those who will shoot whatever is most efficient for the bow(s) in question.
But if you like shooting 12 GPP, it would make a certain amount of sense to choose your bow based on a design that happens to be most efficient at 12 GPP. If you like a light arrow, then choose a bow that will work best with that. No sense buying a hot-rod bow and then hobbling it with the wrong arrow....
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From: aromakr
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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GF: The problem with your analogy is its the wrong arrow in your eyes, that doesn't make wrong. To some it could be correct and that's what makes the world go around,.
Bob
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From: GF
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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It’s all unique, yes, but a lot of very fast bows have design quirks that can make them less forgiving or noisier or less “smooth” on the draw or whatever... And if you buy a bow because you want it to be fast, you probably ought to play to its strengths...
So just looking at the bows in the OP here.... Poster reports both shoot great, but if the green LB is just as fast with the desired arrow and more stable in the hand or maybe it’s just quieter, why wouldn’t you use it?
OTOH, let’s say it turns out that the R/D bow leaves the other one in the dust once you get the arrow down to 8 GPP instead of 14; if both shoot equally accurately, it might make a lot more sense to grab the faster one for a hunt where longer shots are more likely.
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From: Longcruise
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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X2 with Bob, we all look at things from our own perspective.
I have a 41# bow that shoots a 475 grain arrow at 172 and a 650 grain arrow at 157. My hunting choice is for the slower heavier arrow but that's just me. Many hunters would select the lighter arrow for better trajectory.
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From: Barber
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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What are the bows ? Also what length are they ?
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From: dean
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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Sometimes a lighter arrow will fly noticeably quicker from a lighter limb bow than from a heavy limbed bow after comparing heavy arrows from the same bows. It is not so much that the heavy limbed bow shoots heavy arrows faster, it is because of the arrow weight versus moving limb weight ratio. When I compared fast long recurves with similar Hill longbows, if the recurve was faster with light arrows, it was still faster with heavy arrows, but the gap got closer. However, I never fletched up a steel fence post to see what that would do.
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From: 2 bears
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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Most bows are a lot closer than the manufacturer would have you believe. If that is the poundage at draw weight it is only 11.3 gpp not far from what many consider the optimum specs. I generally go a little lighter but everyone has favorites,or simply go with what ever works out for their personal accuracy.>>>----> Ken
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From: 14cm
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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30" 2016 with 100gr insert and 130gr head. I just thought the d shape would be slower than the r/d.
not complaining just surprised.
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From: GF
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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I like Batman's advice best!
FWIW - I would think that that arrow would shoot just fine without the extra hundred grains, unless you are nowhere near centershot...
The whole light vs heavy and extracted velocity thing, though....
I wonder about how draw length figures in with that... Kinda think that short DL plus heavy arrow might be an ill-advised combo, but I’d have to test that.
Agree with Dean that a faster bow is probably faster with ANY arrow, but then if you overload a fly rod, sometimes you can cast a lot farther by slowing down your stroke.
So I don’ know....
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From: camodave
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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I long ago learned that one cannot judge the speed a bow will produce until they shoot it across the chronograph. The bottom line is that it is mostly the string that determines the velocity a bow will produce. About the fastest bow I have ever owned is my 1960 Kodiak with a string made with B50 and 8125g.
DDave
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From: camodave
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Date: 04-Dec-17 |
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As much as it goes against conventional wisdom that Kodiak is about the quietest bow I have ever owned out of around 75 bows.
DDave
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