From looking on the net it appers where my pain is the deltoid. Its a small pain and never know when it will flare. Shooting doesnt make it hur. Its just random. Im thinking its the way I sleep with my arm raised.Anyone else have this.

YES WHEN i LAY ON MY ARM OR FALL. THIS HAPPENS A LOT.

Heres another thing you know when your getting old when you get hurt getting out of bed.LOL

One night last week I fell asleep laying on my arm. Two hours later I got up to pee. I about fell on the floor getting up. When I got to the bathroom, something was missing, I had to go back and get my arm.

Yep i usually crawl to the bathroom in fear of falling.lol

Yep been there. Sharp pain is bad. Pain is inevitable part of gettin old. Sometimes my 33 y o son will make a little grunt when he stands up from kneeling at work. "Wait till you're 63 junior." lol

All kidding aside, I take a quarter teaspoon of turmeric, and a quarter teaspoon ginger, with my oatmeal, or in my pancakes. I had joint pain in both shoulders, especially when I slept on one side or another. Since I started that the pain is gone. it took my cholesterol down 50 points, BUT I have oatmeal three times a week. I use the Q O's 5 min. stuff.

Sure did change my attitude about shooting traditional bow.

DS

Late June I woke with terrible pain in both shoulders. Visit to the ortho who called it a shoulder impingement and 12 weeks of PT it is better but not 100%. Just shot 80 arrows indoor with 26# and then 10 arrows at 30# and 10 more at 35# with no ill effects. Taking it slow and doing my exercizes every other day like a good boy. Maybe I'll work up to a hunting bow this season.

What kind of exercise reddogge?

Sleep positions can cause issues. I use a large pillow to keep me from bringing my arm too close while I sleep. Helps a lot.

I had to smile when I saw this as I have an ice pack on my arm right now for this problem. Ice is nice and for me it takes the pain out of the muscle. That and some Aleve and I can sleep without it waking me up at night.

Shoulder pain affects how many times I shoot. Now I limit my practice shots. Seperated right shoulder playing football back in the day. Have been considering changing to left hand bow. Good luck

I had a slight twitch in my right shoulder area, by the collar bone,, I went in and 3 days later I was having open heart surgery ,

Sorry folks, pain does not come automatically from getting older. If there is pain there is a problem. DeerSpotter has it mostly right. The pain is because of what we put into our bodies. Much of it we cannot help. We have to eat, but most of what we eat is causing inflammation.

Turmeric, ginger and raw apple cider vinegar are wonderful inflammation fighters, but we need to study what causes the inflammation and get that out of our diet and household environment. Fast food, dairy and chemicals are but a few. Food should nourish the body not cause inflammation. We've been hoodwinked. Better living through chemistry is a lie. We have to accept responsibility for our own problems and either change the way we do things or continue to suffer.

TTT

In our town there is a guy that inherited an insurance business, he does not even mow his own yard, he enjoys poking fun of people that have worked their asses off doing a life time of hard physical labor that are not as pretty as he is. It can be more than simply diets, scar tissue builds up, joint tissues wear down. I have multiple torn muscle ligament and arthritis issues from not taking the easy route. Oh, the insurance guy had a toe nail issue that affected his golf game and he thought his world was going to end.

You want real pain then pee out your minerals and tell me how ya feel. I must have done that yesterday and last night woke up in middle of night and tried everything in my voodo closet. Pickle juice , magnesium oil, magnesium pills, cider vinegar and a whole host of others. It took me 2hrs to get back to sleep and under control. Along with praying and pleading to take the pain away.

I can take shoulder pain over cramps any day of week. It hurt so bad was thinking of taking an old cedar broken arrow and putting it in my teeth and biting down.LOL

How many folks in this thread still shoot 50lb or more????

I shoot 50 to 60 pound bows. Once in a while I shoot a 74, but my go to this year is 55 pounds. I shoot way too many arrows prior to hunting season, 300 to 500. Sometimes only shooting 6 arrow ends for 2 to 3 hours and some days all day. 20 years ago a low back injury slowed me up some and then torn abdomen muscles changed my exercise regimen, but I still workout all winter and shoot all summer, along with canoe trips. I seem to be more accident prone or impatient. I got hurt not taking stuff out of the way, so I could use a ladder to get two car wheels off of a high shelf in September. I landed on my feet, but it messed up my ribs, separated my SI joint in my left hip and got a couple of compression issues in my back. That made long hikes a lot of effort in October. I eat organic and take the best natural supplements I can find. Problem is as soon as I start feeling normal, I go like a crazy man until I stiffen up. I was told to take a month off to let the inflammations settle down. I am bored and want to go pheasant hunting.

I shoot 50# almost exclusively. I shoot 60 a little, but don't feel as I am controlling it after 20 or so shots. I have other bows from 28 to 47#s, but I mostly just shoot the 50. I'm 62 YO. However, I don't shoot every day, so maybe that's got some bearing on it.

Crow3, the exercises were prescribed by my physical therapist. They are many and varied. They take about 20-30 minutes every other day. You need dumbells of various weights, stretch bands, pulley device.

Along with my turmeric (the fermented kind is more absorbable), high grade three part fish oil, Super Male Vitality, and other stuff, my breakfast is a malt made with two organic eggs, organic milk, ice cream, vanilla One World Whey, a scoop of Jones Chocolate Caveman Bone Broth, one banana, with a drop or two of nascent iodine. No coffee, a cup of organic Earl Grey tea with one spoonful of unprocessed raw basswood honey. I have all of the gym equipment in the basement, dumb bells and an adjustable weight bench can aid in doing exercises that keep the shoulders happy. I gave away my Hoyt target bow, so I will not be doing much shooting during the winter any longer.

It's not what we eat as much as it is the quality of what we eat. It takes 90+ minerals, vitamins and clean water and good air for a human body to grow proper, healthy cells, which is what the body is made of...cells. Most, if not all the ground, in this country is depleated of those nutrients and most of the plants are, at the very least, hybridised and at worst, GMO.

If one intends to shoot a bow for a long time and do so comfortably they need to find out about real nourishment of the human body and fast food, promocessed food and everyday, food factory grown, hybridised, GMO, grown on dead ground with lots of chemicals and pesticides food ain't it.

Same goes for other aspects of life, but this is archery related, so we'll stay there.

Merry Christmas all.

Don't shrug off those little shoulder pains that occasionally flare up. Get ahead of this before it is too late. I have had this going on for a while. Normally some Ibprofin takes care of it. I have been power napping in a recliner since last Thursday, my shoulder is so bad I can't lay down in bed at night. I have been in to see the Doc, he gave me a steroid shot in the shoulder and I have a PT eval on Tuesday. The pain is tolerable during the day now but sure stiffins up at night. Hopefully some PT takes care of this and I don't need the scalpel. I don't know when I'll be able to shoot again, which sucks because I have a new bow on the way!!

promocessed...I guess I made up a new word. Think it will make it in a dictionary? ;~) PROCESSED

Yeah, don't let those little pains get ahead of you. Do what you think you need to do to heal/stop them. They can mount up over time. Pain is telling you there is a problem.

Ryman, I feel your pain. Leg cramps after a long drag get me up walking the floor or hobling around. You named my remedies. My Dr. Suggested taking iron in vitamins and tonic water. Good luck.

dean, what color is that mix when you turn off the blender? I don't think I could choke that down. I was okay until I got to the Caveman Bone Broth, and the nascent iodine sealed the deal. No thanks! Not to mention I have Earl Gray tea. As they say, if its healthy for you, it must taste like crap. :)

TK, Common, don't be so sensitive, it looks and tastes exactly like a chocolate malt. I know some juicers that throw stuff together, a bit of this and a lot of that and get this room temperature brownish green gritty stuff. I know the old saying, 'if you get past the smell etc." but the texture of liquid tree bark of some of it, is a tough one for my palate. Of course, then there are folks like my neighbors that will dive head first into cheap hotdogs or anything from McDonalds, but pull their nose up at fresh walleye or organic steaks. My brother in-law, RIP, good guy, ate MCDs whenever he could. When he was last here, I offered to take him out for walleye or prime rib. He saw the MCDs in the neighboring town, his exact words,"I've heard a lot of good things about that McDonalds." If he would have heard anything it was that the place was getting sued because an employee had been pissing in the pickles, not kidding. He got caught and confessed that he had been doing it a lot. Soy filler in all of its forms is loaded with estrogen, grow up on that stuff or eat burgers that are loaded with it and the influence is evident, the latest term is 'soy boys'.

I just started taking super beets also a powder I first learned about on Glen Becks show and got some. Not sure about it yet and 8 super greens also a tablet you drop in 8 oz water and drink her down. Now not getting roughage but hopefully vitamins.

I know why I got the cramps drinking not enough water and not taking meds that day the sprilactone esp. that keeps the mag in me.

I am my worst enemy nowone can trying in kill me 1rst they would have to fight me first to kill me and have to get in line.LOL

Beets, especially cold pressed organic beet juice lowers blood pressure.

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