From: NormF
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Date: 25-Nov-17 |
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In a previous post Easton Genesis shafts were mentioned for light weight bows. I was looking at ads for them and it looks like points are installed. Has anyone removed the point and put an insert in?
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 25-Nov-17 |
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3 River has carried the screw-in inserts for quite a while now. I think Lancaster always has them. You can order them without points as well.
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From: NormF
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Date: 25-Nov-17 |
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Thanks George
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 25-Nov-17 |
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Lancaster Archery has the raw shafts as well.
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From: moebow
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Date: 25-Nov-17 |
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The Genesis shaft is an 1820 aluminum that spines well for about a 50# bow. Even though they are used for light weight Genesis bows, they really aren't "Light weight" in spine.
Arne
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From: GF
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Date: 25-Nov-17 |
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And they come in Orange! Wonder if they’re actually Autumn Orange or something more “electric”?
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 25-Nov-17 |
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The 1820 has been around for decades. It's listed in the 1968 Easton catalog. The spine of a 2016 and the mass weight of a 2018.
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From: 2 bears
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Date: 25-Nov-17 |
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Genesius shafts are often recommended/advertized to new archers for their durability as well as cost. They work just fine.>>>----> Ken
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From: GLF
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Date: 25-Nov-17 |
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They're same alloy as xx75. They're cheaper due to .005 straighteners instead of .001 or .003. Dont know about you guys but stumping or hunting I couldn't tell the difference.
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From: Biathlonman
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Date: 25-Nov-17 |
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I just tuned some to my #44 longbow, cut at 29" with screw in insert amd 125 grain piint they shoot great. I gwt the inserts from ebay.
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From: Barber
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Date: 26-Nov-17 |
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My kids shoot those shafts. They came with the installed points, but I had the local archery shop cut the length down on them and he installed inserts so they use screw in points now.
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From: Barber
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Date: 26-Nov-17 |
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The orange shafts I saw were bright orange. My kids shoot the blue ones.
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From: Bob Hildenbrand
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Date: 26-Nov-17 |
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I shoot the blue ones for practice and 3D. Use the green ones for hunting. 48# bow with 28" arrow drawn to 27"s with 145gr. up front.
I was chucking 1816 inserts in the drill press and nocking off .004 before they started making the inserts.
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From: GF
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Date: 26-Nov-17 |
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Wow. Some of you guys like a LOT of GPP!
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From: TGbow
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Date: 26-Nov-17 |
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I recently ordered 1 1820 shaft from Lancaster and inserts from 3 Rivers. I bought the N nocks from Ebay.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 26-Nov-17 |
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When I tune my bow, I never worry about gpp. I use what flies best and with aluminum it can be a relatively high grains per pound. Unlike carbon, there is quite a bit of mass inherent in alloy tubing, especially with the 18 and 20 thousandths wall thickness. For hunting distance, the extra weigh doesn't mean much in the trajectory, but you will notice it out past forty yards or so. All it takes though is a few practice sessions to adapt to the change.
On my Browning Stalker, I can shoot 430 grain spruce, or 480 grain aluminums, or 500 grain Microflite fiberglass. I've used all three this year and it only takes a half dozen shots or so to program the brain to the difference. On my Carroll's, I can shoot the same arrows and then it just becomes a feel thing. After you shoot so long it becomes a matter of feel and adapting to that. The Browning is 47#, and the Carroll's 52#.
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 21-Feb-18 |
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I just fletched a couple of dozen of these for hunting and stumping with 50-55# bows.
I cut them to 28" for my 27" draw and plan on using a 125-135 grain tip.
One important change I made was rather than use the recommended "N" nocks I chose the much tougher Deep Six nock that fits the "G" Uni-bushing on these shafts.
The Deep Six has less plastic between the throat of the nock and the base.
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From: Lost arrow
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Date: 21-Feb-18 |
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The first Genesis shafts used glue on nocks and later went to the unit bushings. I'm probably going to catch some flack but this works for me. Cut the nock taper off of the older shafts or with heat remove the unit bushing on the newer ones. Carefully scrape the shaft end of an Easton Super nock until you can twist it into the shaft. The reason I do this is that I have 3 recurves and a longbow that I shoot. Each is set up to shoot Big Jim's GT trad bless .600s. I like the Easton nocks better than the GTs so my center serving and two tie on nock points are a fit for the Easton nocks. The Genesis shafts shoot well on my bows, just have to allow a little for difference in trajectory. Plus the same nock fits all of my arrows. I just noticed the spell check wouldn't let me say uni bushing. I use inserts and 125 gr points.
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From: Lost arrow
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Date: 21-Feb-18 |
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I've helped with the kids in the Centershot program at my church for 5 or 6 years. Same equipment as in the NASP. Genesis bows and Genesis arrows only. If the bows are maxed out poundage wise and drawn to 30" the flight isn't too bad. But back the poundage down for a 4th or 5th grader and 24" draw, the flight is not good. I've heard a couple of guys say they can make the Genesis combination work but I've never been able to. I do know that .700 GT Warriours makes the bow a lot better. .800 might be even better but the Genesis arrows are the only approved arrow in the programs
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