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Lost a friend

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J. h2os 14-Nov-17
Ben 14-Nov-17
Andy Man 14-Nov-17
ButchMo 14-Nov-17
sticshooter 14-Nov-17
TrapperKayak 14-Nov-17
monkeyball 14-Nov-17
Rotten: 14-Nov-17
60 Cowboy 14-Nov-17
sir misalots 14-Nov-17
Stix 14-Nov-17
BTcaribou 14-Nov-17
Bones44 14-Nov-17
Babbling Bob 14-Nov-17
gluetrap 14-Nov-17
Knifeguy 14-Nov-17
JusPassin 14-Nov-17
Penny Banks 14-Nov-17
Liquid Tension 14-Nov-17
Buzz 14-Nov-17
RymanCat 14-Nov-17
4nolz@work 14-Nov-17
Steve Milbocker 14-Nov-17
Paul Newton 14-Nov-17
sake3 14-Nov-17
George D. Stout 14-Nov-17
Crow 14-Nov-17
Ken Taylor 14-Nov-17
Steve-ALA 14-Nov-17
Bowguy 14-Nov-17
76aggie 14-Nov-17
throwback 14-Nov-17
Longbow66 14-Nov-17
Bullfrog 14-Nov-17
BACKYARD 14-Nov-17
Pa Steve 14-Nov-17
Rutnomore 14-Nov-17
hawkeye in PA 14-Nov-17
reb 14-Nov-17
reb 14-Nov-17
indianalongbowshoote 14-Nov-17
vintage-bears 14-Nov-17
MStyles 14-Nov-17
Barber 14-Nov-17
bfisherman11 14-Nov-17
Bob Rowlands 14-Nov-17
TGbow 15-Nov-17
LBshooter 15-Nov-17
offtheshelf 15-Nov-17
Trent 15-Nov-17
TrapperKayak 15-Nov-17
J. h2os 15-Nov-17
ny yankee 15-Nov-17
TrapperKayak 15-Nov-17
AK Pathfinder 15-Nov-17
tinecounter 15-Nov-17
kodiak t/d 15-Nov-17
Mule/IN 15-Nov-17
Daryl Pelfrey 15-Nov-17
Northener 15-Nov-17
handle 15-Nov-17
Scott Gray 15-Nov-17
George Tsoukalas 15-Nov-17
KDdog 15-Nov-17
Stoner 16-Nov-17
ground hunter 16-Nov-17
Bob Rowlands 16-Nov-17
BIG BEAR 16-Nov-17
arrowchucker 16-Nov-17
From: J. h2os
Date: 14-Nov-17

One of my shooting buddy took his own life yesterday. I guess he decided life was to hard. He left behind a wife and 2 lovely daughers and friends that are in pain wonder what we could have done to help him.

From: Ben
Date: 14-Nov-17

Unfortunately I've had a lot of friends and relatives that have done the same. Two of the worst was a friend that shot his wife and two young daughters before turning the gun on himself. He was school teacher and taught me how to rattle bucks. The other was my best friend and we worked together for many years. One day while getting a drink of water he gave a scenario of how to kill himself positioning the shot. I told him that his bullet placement was iffy and that the most efficient was a shotgun under the chin. I asked why he would ask such a question and he said it was just curiosity. Two weeks later he followed my instructions to the tee. He had everything to live for, a marathon runner in excellent shape, plenty of money, great family and kids, good looking guy with a great personality. Something just snapped.

From: Andy Man
Date: 14-Nov-17


From: ButchMo
Date: 14-Nov-17

So sorry to hear.

From: sticshooter
Date: 14-Nov-17

so sorry. prayers for the family and you.<><

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 14-Nov-17

God have mercy, very sorry to hear that.

From: monkeyball
Date: 14-Nov-17

Prayers up for the family and friends Jeff. That is a tough one.

Praying in PA, Craig

From: Rotten:
Date: 14-Nov-17

Truly sorry to hear that. My prayers are with their family and yours.

From: 60 Cowboy
Date: 14-Nov-17

Terrible thing. All my prayers go out to his wife and girls.

From: sir misalots
Date: 14-Nov-17

So sad sorry to hear that.

From: Stix
Date: 14-Nov-17

Prayer lifted up for family, friends, and all involved.

From: BTcaribou Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Nov-17

Prayers sent from Illinois to his family and friends.

From: Bones44
Date: 14-Nov-17

So sorry for your loss. Prayers for everyone. Been there in your shoes. Worst pain there is

From: Babbling Bob Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Nov-17

Terrible! Sorry for the loss and will pray for a whole lot of strength and healing for the family.

Seen it too many times the last few years, and families and friends are left to wonder why. Might not ever be understood. The person may have been on medication and not realized or had any idea how much suffering, pain, and hardship they will put their family through when they think they are getting rid of theirs. It's in His hands now.

From: gluetrap
Date: 14-Nov-17

had a best friend do the same. if someone thinks of it as a way out they are painting themselves into a corner. under the right pressure it seems like a plan, but its usually a permanent fix for a temporary problem..ron

From: Knifeguy
Date: 14-Nov-17

I'm sorry for your loss, and will pray for both you and his family. The hard cold fact is, that when a person makes his/her mind up to take their own lives, there's really not a lot you can do. I lost a son this way and talked to him only hours before he did it. Don't put yourself through hell wondering what you could have done. He knew you were there for him. Healing is different for us all and I hope the process for you is not a difficult one. I hope this makes some kind of sense for you. It's hard not to dwell on the "what ifs and whys". I know. Lance.

From: JusPassin Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Nov-17

I spent 30 years in law enforcement. Responded to so many calls like that. So hard to try and comfort those left behind. Can't think of a single one that was based on logic. All mental health issues.

From: Penny Banks
Date: 14-Nov-17

Until we as a community of man study, ACCEPT, and treat mental illness and depression rather than spout some of the well meaning blather seen above this will continue to be an out of control epidemic.

From: Liquid Tension
Date: 14-Nov-17

Condolences for the loss of your friend. Sadly, men in this country have very few places to turn for help in times of crisis. Women's resources for help are unlimited & men shamefully are still viewed as cannon fodder. May your friend & all men who choose this path Rest in Peace!

From: Buzz
Date: 14-Nov-17

Sad news.

My condolences.

From: RymanCat
Date: 14-Nov-17

Darn it that's hard we just never know the details are in the devils works.

Sorry for your loss and Lord please watch over family and friends and most of all this feller when he stands before you take into consideration his pain and the week moment he had that resulted in this.

Put him to work Lord for you and what happened lift up others to new heights so that they can realize the circumstances that lead to this. Help his family cope with this loss.


From: 4nolz@work
Date: 14-Nov-17

People in despair should not be judged.Look at Direwolf.He's thriving now.We have a couple regular posters that have implied suicide in posts here.Its easy to pass judgement but people have faults and people despair.If the darkness passes many people learn to live with periods of despair.Prayers sent for the people in pain left behind.

From: Steve Milbocker
Date: 14-Nov-17

Prayer sent:(

From: Paul Newton
Date: 14-Nov-17

That's a tough one. Thoughts are with you and his family.

From: sake3
Date: 14-Nov-17

Depression is an EVIL Demon.God,medication friends and many other things can be used to fight against it.But when you're in its grip it can be impossible to see the solutions or to reach out for help.Fight it guys whether its our brain chemicals or those of people for whom we care.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Nov-17

Will keep prayers for his family, and all of those affected. So sorry to hear this. We went through something similar one year ago.

From: Crow
Date: 14-Nov-17

Prayers for the damily and friends. I hate hearing about these things. Breaks my heart.

From: Ken Taylor
Date: 14-Nov-17

Sad... very painful for those who loved him.

Prayers to the family.

Serious depression can be hidden behind a smile.

From: Steve-ALA Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Nov-17

Sorry for your loss. Prayers to you and his family

From: Bowguy Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 14-Nov-17

Prayers sent

From: 76aggie
Date: 14-Nov-17

It is very hard for me to fathom what it would take to have someone take their own life. I understand that being down in the dumps or worse can lead to terrible thoughts but to take your own life is incomprehensible to me. I have always told my friends and family if you find me dead with a suicide note nearby, start looking for the killer. My prayers go out to the families and friends of the deceased who may always wonder what they could have done to prevent this.

From: throwback
Date: 14-Nov-17

I'm sorry to hear it, Jeff. One of our friends attempted it a few weeks ago. Thank God she was unsuccessful. Prayers for your friends family, you and everybody else affected by this.

From: Longbow66
Date: 14-Nov-17

So sad... sorry.. God Bless you and the family...

From: Bullfrog
Date: 14-Nov-17

I lost my oldest brother 4 years ago. The anxiety that is has caused me and my family is beyond words. He seemed like the most happy up beat person you would ever meet. It is still like a kick in the stomach every time I even see the word. God bless. Bill

Date: 14-Nov-17

God Bless

From: Pa Steve
Date: 14-Nov-17

Sad. So sad. May God bless the survivors and give them stength to deal with this most unfortunate circumstance.

From: Rutnomore
Date: 14-Nov-17

Prayers for his family and friends, they will carry the load now....

From: hawkeye in PA
Date: 14-Nov-17

Prayers for the family. Been there, and it hurts with no answers.

From: reb
Date: 14-Nov-17

Prayers sent.

From: reb
Date: 14-Nov-17

Prayers sent.

From: indianalongbowshoote
Date: 14-Nov-17

My son in laws dad dad my step daughters 6 yr old boy over to their house last week and he went out on porch to smoke cigarette, after he didn't come back in for awhile his wife went out to look for him and there was a trail of blood around side of house.. She found him in the back yard and he had cut his own throat luckily he did a bad job of it and they called a ambulance/police and they took him to local hospital where they stapled his throat back.. luckily grandson didn't see anything. He has battled depression/drugs/alcohol all his life and has tried this a couple times before..all it does is torment his family and cause severe anxiety among them.

From: vintage-bears
Date: 14-Nov-17

My condolences.

From: MStyles
Date: 14-Nov-17

You have my sincerest sympathy. My favorite working buddy, retired to Az, worked part time, played with his SS Camaro, was having a good retirement. The next thing I knew, right after Christmas, he took his own life. I was so stunned I couldn’t imagine how he got that way. It’s a helpless feeling. Prayers for you and yours from Illinois.

From: Barber
Date: 14-Nov-17

Sorry to hear ! My prayers are with yall

From: bfisherman11 Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Nov-17

An uncle of mine who we all loved chose this path a few years ago. I don't think it's a thing we can understand. The why or purpose as well can remain unknown as well.

I miss my uncle and feel for my cousins. Any questions I had in his choice were never answered. Even if I knew, I don't believe it would help.

Condolences, Bill

From: Bob Rowlands
Date: 14-Nov-17

Sad. How a man could rip his family like that is beyond me. Family is EVERYthing in this world. Condolences to you and the loved ones. Healing in time as well..

From: TGbow
Date: 15-Nov-17

Sad news

From: LBshooter
Date: 15-Nov-17

Sorry to hear. Prayers that his family heals for this selfish act.

From: offtheshelf
Date: 15-Nov-17

About 2 years ago my cousin took his own life. A week later, a family friend chose the same thing. I remember the pain that their loved ones had to endure, and the bewilderment over how someone could get to that point. I do not see how anyone could be in their right mind, and make this decision. I say a prayer now for this person and all those left in the wake of such a devastating act. May God have mercy on us all.

From: Trent
Date: 15-Nov-17

So sorry for your loss. My brother did the same thing. It will never makes sense. Don't try to figure it out too long. God bless.

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 15-Nov-17

Still praying for your friend's family and friends to help them through their tragic loss. Where I work, we have mandatory annual suicide 'prevention' and awareness training. Suicide is rampant in the military. There are many subtle signs, and some not so subtle, to watch for. If anyone EVER mentions they want to hurt themselves or worse, or state that they feel they have no purpose, get some help immediately, and stay WITH them, do not leave them, if the threat seems imminent. Do not leave them alone, and call for help. You can help prevent this terrible unnecessary loss of life if you look for and heed these warning signs. I know someone very close who has depression and I worry about them esp. in the wake of personal losses, and know that depression is a very real, unpredictable and serious condition that needs to be dealt with very thought out and empathetically. And even that may not be enough to save someone who is depressed. God, I pray, hold this family in your loving hands and help them understand and be comforted. Amen.

From: J. h2os
Date: 15-Nov-17

Thank all of you. You have NO Idea how much you have help me in my time of need. I too have thought about doing this awful deed. My family and friends always help curb that feeling. Luckly have have a place where I feel good about talking with other who share the same love of bowshooting as I do. That makes thing more bareable.jeff

From: ny yankee
Date: 15-Nov-17

My mother's youngest brother shot himself when I was a kid. I still remember the phone call coming in, and my mother's reaction. I loved him and never knew why he did it until decades later.

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 15-Nov-17

Another thing to think about is that God loves us, and He put us here for us to enjoy Life and His love, and share it with others. He put us here to be happy. He does not cause us grief and despair, that is the fallen angel who does that, and tries to pull us away from God and his love. God gave us his only son, Jesus Christ, to help us beat the fallen one and stay with God's love. If we can think about that when we are feeling lost and hopeless, then we are one up on the demon, we beat him, and we honor God who gave us this wonderful happy life we can have forever. That is one huge gift!! I for one intend to thank him by spreading his gift around, not keeping it from others by succumbing to any hopeless act of desperation. I pray that everyone can strive for that, and live in His love, no matter how mistreated you have been or how hurt and hopeless you feel. We as God's people are here to help you realize you are all cared for and loved no matter what you have been through. Amen.

From: AK Pathfinder
Date: 15-Nov-17

I suspect if folks thinking of ending it could clearly think about the hurt and pain they cause everyone around then they might have a different view…But then "clear thinking" is probably not a trait of someone who is suicidal. I'll always pray for those left behind.

From: tinecounter
Date: 15-Nov-17

Condolences and prayers for his family and friends.

From: kodiak t/d
Date: 15-Nov-17

I have seen it in my life also!!! There is no way to figure it out in our feeble minds! Prayers for his friends and family!! I pray for healing and peace for all!

From: Mule/IN Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 15-Nov-17

Prayers to the family and friends. I am taken back by some of the comments. A person dealing with depression and takes there own life is not necessarily being selfish. Many times their mind is in such a state of despair and confusion that they feel they are doing their friends and family a service. There is the perception that their loved ones would be better off without them. I lost a good friend and an aunt to suicide and they were the last people that you would expect to take their own lives. Mental illness is just that, an illness. Illness of one type or another takes many lives each day. As friends and family members we need to look for the signs of problems and take whatever measures are needed to help or to get them help. Again, prayers of comfort and healing for the friends and loved ones!

From: Daryl Pelfrey
Date: 15-Nov-17

Thats just to sad all of them.

From: Northener
Date: 15-Nov-17

Sorry, its always painful and in this case, so many questions left unanswered. Thoughts and prayers for the loved ones left behind.

From: handle
Date: 15-Nov-17

"how can anyone in their right mind do that to their family." That's the first thing most people think. Problem is they're not in their right mind. It's not always the case but gotta watch out for some of the drugs that are being prescribed. Drugs and pain can do really screwy things to a normally strong mind. "there but for the grace of God" comes to mind. Stay strong. Jim

From: Scott Gray Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 15-Nov-17

One never knows what is behind the masks we wear. We all know someone who is thinking about suicide, sad thing is we can't see beyond their mask. They are master's of disguise. The problem is, we, as men are taught to keep our problems just that,our problems. Not wanting to reach out for help for fear of being thought of as weak. Have you ever asked someone how they are doing? Then asked, no how are you really doing? You would be surprised how a person opens up when they can feel you are actually interested, concerned and truly care.

Prayers said.

From: George Tsoukalas
Date: 15-Nov-17

I am so sorry. I pray that family and friends are strengthened. George

From: KDdog
Date: 15-Nov-17


From: Stoner
Date: 16-Nov-17

I know the thoughts, Prayers from OKC. John

From: ground hunter
Date: 16-Nov-17

saw a lot of that, in my career,,,, so hard on the family, and its true, the mind, is not right at the time,,,,, I will pray for the family, and all who go thru that......

From: Bob Rowlands
Date: 16-Nov-17

Off topic comment. I hate to sound trite, but God has a plan for each of us. Took me most of my life to have my eyes opened, but they have been this past year. I wish others that are really distraught would 'see' and be healed.

Date: 16-Nov-17

Me too Michael..... I've been a Police Officer in a Suburb just north of Detroit for 24 years this coming January........ Not only have I respond ed to it too many times to remember...... But one of our Officers took his own life about 14 years ago... he was a friend...... Then about 2 years later one of our dispatchers did it....... Its horrific for families and friends and the responders who are sent to deal with it.......

From: arrowchucker
Date: 16-Nov-17

Depression is an ugly, mean demon. I know I've been there for a long time. I had severe gut problems for about 22 years. Suffer years of pain, strong steroid drugs, every new treatment the docs could dream up. At one point my drugs wer $3200 a mth. Nothing worked ate lots of narcotics for pain was addicted bad. Had 7 surgeries and months in Hospitals local and the Mayo Clinic. Emergency Helicopter ride, 30 days nothing by mouth, lost weight to were I looked like a holocaust surviver . On the depression test I scored a 9, 10 is eminent suicide. I had a plan, how , where so my wife and friends would not see. Best friend was undersheriff. So Do it outside the county. Bad, bad shit. Finally got guts pretty good, went on antidepressants and therapy. Had to get off narcotics ( Wow that was hard). I beat it finally. New job I like, best women on earth, and shooting my bow a lot again. On zero drugs now and doing great. But I know......... Hang on it will get better.

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