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From: nineworlds9
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Date: 13-Nov-17 |
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Explain? No see tip wedgy? :)
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 13-Nov-17 |
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Don't need it. Don't care. Doesn't belong on this type of bow. Ive bedn thinking of doind it for sometime. Seen the same bow without anything . Good nuff done.
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From: raghorn
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Date: 13-Nov-17 |
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Did removing tip overlays make you happy or did it actually change how the bow shoots??
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From: Jeff Durnell
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Date: 13-Nov-17 |
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I know they're not always necessary, but that just doesn't look right on a glass bow.
Ya mean you couldn't string with the overlays on it?
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From: Mountain Man
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Date: 13-Nov-17 |
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It looks good I like some peoples over lays and not others
Im guessing its over 60# and ya mean you can push pull it easyer now
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 13-Nov-17 |
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They were well done but does not belong on an Asl. Scales 82#@28 73#@26. It will push pull now without straining my milk. Once I seen one today without wedges or overlays I did it instantly. This bow needs to be refinished anyway as it came plastered in bug spray. I have the same bow and specs on order. Figured the b50 users would flip out. Hoping any way. Rooty
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 13-Nov-17 |
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Nearly all of the entry level, or semi-recurve bows back in the day didn't have them. It was one way for manufacturers to keep costs down. I've owned a bunch of those over the years and they worked just fine. Mostly they are simply decoration, especially on a bow with that deep of a tip.
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From: Mountain Man
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Date: 13-Nov-17 |
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HH Wesley special,,,no over lays
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From: Mountain Man
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Date: 13-Nov-17 |
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Freeman ASL over lays i like
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From: MStyles
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Date: 13-Nov-17 |
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My HH Big 5 doesn’t have any tip overlays.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 13-Nov-17 |
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My Carroll's Gentleman Jim recurve has no overlays. It does have tip wedges.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 13-Nov-17 |
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My Carroll's Gentleman Jim recurve has no overlays. It does have tip wedges.
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 13-Nov-17 |
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I am okay with tip wedges as they are on most Asl bows. Now when there on recurves that's just awesome. I have a Root, Browing and Jacobson with tip wedges.
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From: nineworlds9
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Date: 13-Nov-17 |
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Gotcha Rooty! If you're running B50 doubt it will cause any issues. If it makes you love the bow more then bravo.
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 13-Nov-17 |
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Yeah I run b50 material in my tow slings for the jeep. I don't use 5 dollar spool string on bows lol. Rooty
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From: newell38
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Date: 13-Nov-17 |
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Rhino is good stuff! Looks good Cameron. Here’s a pic of my ramer without wedges or overlays
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 13-Nov-17 |
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Holy that's the second one I've seen today. Rooty
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From: Hal9000
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Date: 14-Nov-17 |
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ASl's have thicker limb tips and overlays are not needed using the modern string materials with padded loops.... as told to me by Steve Turay himself :)
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From: Bowlim
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Date: 14-Nov-17 |
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That was Hills original design. I always wonder about the wedges, whether it was a simple way of stiffening the tip action, it doesn't seem all that sensible as a way of reinforcing the tips against string impact.
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From: Longcruise
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Date: 14-Nov-17 |
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Tip wedges are for performance. That's performance in the very broad sense of the word. It's not necessarily needed or desirable on all ASLs. It's the bowyer's call as to whether or not they will be needed or beneficial on a given design.
I put tip overlays on mine because the tips are very narrow. Sometimes there is not enough width to support functional string nocks cut into the side of the limb. The working part of the nock is cut over the top of the overlay.
I don't claim that my way of doing things is better than others, it's just my way. Some folks like it and some don't. Cameron likes his "old school" and it has a certain trad aesthetic that he and many other ASL afficianados like.
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From: Sailor
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Date: 14-Nov-17 |
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My NM Classic has no overlays or wedges. I like it better with no overlays but I like to look of wedges.
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From: Ihunts2much
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Date: 14-Nov-17 |
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I had a sweet shooting Dave Johnson longbow many years ago. Fiberglass split and lifted on the back at the string nock...I wished it had tip overlays. Sure you don't need them?
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From: Bowlim
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Date: 14-Nov-17 |
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"Tip wedges are for performance. That's performance in the very broad sense of the word. It's not necessarily needed or desirable on all ASLs."
How does it improve performance?
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From: throwback
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Date: 14-Nov-17 |
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Looks good from here, Rooty.
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From: 2 bears
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Date: 14-Nov-17 |
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No overlays on my hill but I think they are purty. I may had some antler or buffalo horn to it. >>>----> Ken
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From: Longcruise
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Date: 14-Nov-17 |
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"How does it improve performance?"
The primary performance benefit is to manage string angle and therefore stacking. It's to stiffen the tip, reduce travel at the tip (thus string angle) and to move the bend more towards mid limb.
One use performance wise is to increase the draw length of a bow that might begin to stack at xx draw length and a draw length of xx+ is desired. The same problem can be solved by increasing limb length.
Another use is to increase preload at brace which will translate to just a bit more energy under the FD curve.
A bow that tends to be a bit whip tipped but otherwise a good performer can be improved in all the above ways by adding a tip wedge.
It's not the only way of doing things but its one way.
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 14-Nov-17 |
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Chopping tonight. I like it better. Rooty
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