| From: nrthernrebel05
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| Date: 19-Oct-17 |
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I am helping a Father and son get started in trad. I am not exactly sure what their draw lengths are but guessing. Dad will get a 45# bow and I believe he is going to draw 27"-28". Son will get a 40# bow and mostly be around 26". I'm helping Mom acquire what they need as Christmas gifts. My question is, what's a good size for both of them to be able to shoot? When I look at the chart I just get too confused. I'd rather listen to experience.
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| From: texbow2
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| Date: 19-Oct-17 |
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1916 for the dad , will probably be a little stiff for the son but he could get buy with some heavier points
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| From: Viper
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| Date: 19-Oct-17 |
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n -
Doesn't matter. Odds are good both will be over bowed and without consistent from, finding the right arrow ain't gonna happen.
Viper out.
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| From: texbow2
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| Date: 19-Oct-17 |
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One option is to look at lower cost ILF risers and start with lower weight limbs and then scale up to heavier higher performance limbs as they work up to it.
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| From: George D. Stout
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| Date: 19-Oct-17 |
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What bows? What kind of strings? That would help a bit.
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| From: nrthernrebel05
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| Date: 19-Oct-17 |
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boy's is a Bear Kodiak Hunter 60" with a B-55 string. I haven't found Dad one yet. But that poundage and something between 58"-62" is what I'm looking for. Viper I respect your opinion and knowledge, but these people don't have a lot of money to spend on a lot of bows and different equipment. They want to eventually go hunting too. They may never obtain "perfect form" or be crack shots. They are looking more to just have some fun. I think that covers at least almost all the people I shoot 3D with and hunt with. By the way the boy is as big as me and he is only 14.
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| From: George D. Stout
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| Date: 19-Oct-17 |
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Get ya some 2016 for dad and get some 145 tips and let the arrows about 29.5". I would check the bows draw length for sure since they can surprise you. If it's only 26", then go with 1916 at 28" with 145 tips. That will get you in the ball park and they can learn without the mind-numbing process of intricate tuning. Getting started doesn't need to be perfect.
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| From: gluetrap
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| Date: 19-Oct-17 |
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imo get gt 600 intradas and some 100,125,and 145grain points leave them full lenth with 5" feathers mite work for both. might have to cut them a little after the find out how they are flying for them...ron
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| From: gluetrap
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| Date: 19-Oct-17 |
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sorry just noticed you wanted alum...ron
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| From: H Rhodes
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| Date: 20-Oct-17 |
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If the funds are tight, I would get 2016 Easton tributes for both of them. Get junior some 160 grain points.
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| From: Bowmania
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| Date: 20-Oct-17 |
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ILF equipment will be cheaper than what your buying and that's probably with different sets of limbs and something longer than 58 inches.
Bowmania
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| From: DarrinG
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| Date: 20-Oct-17 |
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1916's would be my pick with a Dacron string, especially if money is tight. Dad could shoot them with 125g points and son could with a little heavier point.
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| From: Shifty
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| Date: 20-Oct-17 |
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Which ever spine you get them leave the arrows full length until they have shot for a while and get several different wht field points to try also.
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| From: nomo
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| Date: 20-Oct-17 |
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I think Viper is right and the ILF idea is a good one. Lower weights to start out with, like #35 (to build form) and 1816 arrows and an assortment of point wts. If you can get them, those 1820 youth arrows wouldn't be a bad starting point (not sure how long they come). They're pretty tough. Don't forget arm guards and tabs or gloves. Arm guards and tabs could be made. Anybody with a little imagination could make tabs and arm guards.
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| From: Ishi
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| Date: 20-Oct-17 |
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Frank - good for you for helping get this father/son team started.
Have you considered a Smack Sage? Maybe start with one set of 25 lb. limbs and one 30 lb. There is a fairly brisk re-sale market for Samick Sage limbs and it will not be so expensive for them to move up into the 40 lb. range.
1916 arrows are fairly forgiving in the 30 - 40 lb. range. I have not tried them with a 25lb. bow - but for a beginning perfect arrow flight is less critical than developing form.
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| From: Ishi
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| Date: 20-Oct-17 |
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Frank - good for you for helping get this father/son team started.
Have you considered a Smack Sage? Maybe start with one set of 25 lb. limbs and one 30 lb. There is a fairly brisk re-sale market for Samick Sage limbs and it will not be so expensive for them to move up into the 40 lb. range.
1916 arrows are fairly forgiving in the 30 - 40 lb. range. I have not tried them with a 25lb. bow - but for a beginning perfect arrow flight is less critical than developing form.
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| From: longbowguy
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| Date: 22-Oct-17 |
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I would give the 40# bow to the dad and get a 35# one for the son. I'd get 1816 Tribute aluminum shafts, fletched with feathers, and a selection of point weights. Left full length they should tune easily for both bows. 2016 would be too stiff even for 45# without excessively heavy points.
They should also both be OK for all Virginia game, if game laws allow 35#.
They will both learn better form and accuracy with the lighter weights. Do not doubt us. - lbg
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