Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


The Legend takes a doe

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Frisky 19-Oct-17
Frisky 19-Oct-17
Frisky 19-Oct-17
Frisky 19-Oct-17
bowbert 19-Oct-17
Homey88 19-Oct-17
Frisky 19-Oct-17
Fiero Furry 19-Oct-17
hawkeye in PA 19-Oct-17
BOX CALL 19-Oct-17
George Tsoukalas 19-Oct-17
blisters1 19-Oct-17
Catsailor 19-Oct-17
Steve Milbocker 19-Oct-17
Pa Steve 19-Oct-17
TrapperKayak 19-Oct-17
Wild Bill 19-Oct-17
fishin coyote 19-Oct-17
Quack 19-Oct-17
Barber 19-Oct-17
Jason D 19-Oct-17
Lowcountry 19-Oct-17
mgerard 19-Oct-17
Skeets 19-Oct-17
Stan 19-Oct-17
uphuntn 19-Oct-17
monkeyball 19-Oct-17
DaGunz 19-Oct-17
S.M.Robertson 19-Oct-17
Jim Keller 19-Oct-17
Kwikdraw 19-Oct-17
col buca 19-Oct-17
Matt Ewing 19-Oct-17
Lowcountry 19-Oct-17
dm/wolfskin 19-Oct-17
Frisky 19-Oct-17
J. h2os 19-Oct-17
Bob Rowlands 19-Oct-17
Fisher Cat 19-Oct-17
Frisky 19-Oct-17
jwhitetail 19-Oct-17
Frisky 19-Oct-17
nomo 19-Oct-17
Brian waters 19-Oct-17
StikBow 19-Oct-17
StikBow 19-Oct-17
Lowcountry 19-Oct-17
Herbie 19-Oct-17
Old School 19-Oct-17
Knifeguy 19-Oct-17
grizz 19-Oct-17
Chas 19-Oct-17
Oly 19-Oct-17
George D. Stout 19-Oct-17
RonG 19-Oct-17
4nolz@work 19-Oct-17
4nolz@work 19-Oct-17
olddogrib 19-Oct-17
Wapiti - - M. S. 19-Oct-17
76aggie 19-Oct-17
stickhunter 19-Oct-17
Frisky 19-Oct-17
TGbow 19-Oct-17
bigdaddy 19-Oct-17
GLF 19-Oct-17
bluesman 19-Oct-17
mgerard 19-Oct-17
dean 19-Oct-17
GLF 19-Oct-17
dean 19-Oct-17
Pdiddly 19-Oct-17
The Lost Mohican 19-Oct-17
Lost arrow 19-Oct-17
Landshark Launcher 19-Oct-17
Buzz 19-Oct-17
crookedstix 19-Oct-17
skookum 19-Oct-17
Chas 19-Oct-17
RonG 19-Oct-17
South MS Bowhunter 19-Oct-17
Bushytail 19-Oct-17
rick allison 19-Oct-17
4nolz@work 19-Oct-17
9/10 Broke 19-Oct-17
throwback 19-Oct-17
Andy Man 19-Oct-17
Frisky 19-Oct-17
9/10 Broke 19-Oct-17
Wild Bill 19-Oct-17
Lost arrow 19-Oct-17
dean 19-Oct-17
Lost arrow 19-Oct-17
throwback 19-Oct-17
tonto59 19-Oct-17
TrapperKayak 19-Oct-17
mangonboat 19-Oct-17
throwback 19-Oct-17
OhioSteve 19-Oct-17
KDdog 19-Oct-17
Skeets 19-Oct-17
arlone 20-Oct-17
4nolz@work 20-Oct-17
Frisky 20-Oct-17
Frisky 20-Oct-17
Frisky 20-Oct-17
Frisky 20-Oct-17
olddogrib 20-Oct-17
OBH 20-Oct-17
Shifty 20-Oct-17
Landshark Launcher 20-Oct-17
Wild Bill 20-Oct-17
RonG 20-Oct-17
RymanCat 20-Oct-17
Skeets 20-Oct-17
nomo 20-Oct-17
Dry Bones 20-Oct-17
longbowdave 20-Oct-17
grizzly 20-Oct-17
9/10 Broke 20-Oct-17
Frisky 20-Oct-17
Landshark Launcher 20-Oct-17
Frisky 20-Oct-17
BigStriper 20-Oct-17
grizz 20-Oct-17
dean 20-Oct-17
Frisky 20-Oct-17
Frisky 20-Oct-17
Dry Bones 20-Oct-17
Lowcountry 20-Oct-17
Frisky 20-Oct-17
Frisky 21-Oct-17
Frisky 21-Oct-17
Landshark Launcher 21-Oct-17
dean 21-Oct-17
4nolz@work 21-Oct-17
dean 21-Oct-17
Frisky 21-Oct-17
RymanCat 21-Oct-17
BATMAN 23-Oct-17
Frisky 23-Oct-17
arlone 24-Oct-17
Frisky 24-Oct-17
Landshark Launcher 24-Oct-17
RymanCat 24-Oct-17
kokosing 24-Oct-17
Frisky 24-Oct-17
TrapperKayak 24-Oct-17
Frisky 24-Oct-17
RymanCat 24-Oct-17
BOX CALL 24-Oct-17
Herbie 24-Oct-17
TrapperKayak 24-Oct-17
Bob Rowlands 24-Oct-17
Frisky 24-Oct-17
Lost arrow 24-Oct-17
RymanCat 24-Oct-17
Frisky 24-Oct-17
grizzly 25-Oct-17
Frisky 25-Oct-17
TrapperKayak 25-Oct-17
RymanCat 25-Oct-17
Landshark Launcher 25-Oct-17
TrapperKayak 25-Oct-17
4nolz@work 25-Oct-17
RymanCat 25-Oct-17
TrapperKayak 25-Oct-17
Frisky 25-Oct-17
BOX CALL 25-Oct-17
4nolz@work 25-Oct-17
Frisky 25-Oct-17
Greyfox 25-Oct-17
Backcountry 25-Oct-17
longbowdave 25-Oct-17
longbowdave 25-Oct-17
Frisky 25-Oct-17
Lost arrow 25-Oct-17
Frisky 25-Oct-17
dean 26-Oct-17
Frisky 26-Oct-17
TrapperKayak 26-Oct-17
Frisky 26-Oct-17
TrapperKayak 26-Oct-17
Backcountry 26-Oct-17
Frisky 26-Oct-17
Landshark Launcher 26-Oct-17
Frisky 26-Oct-17
Frisky 26-Oct-17
Matt Ewing 26-Oct-17
Lost arrow 26-Oct-17
Frisky 26-Oct-17
Frisky 27-Oct-17
dean 27-Oct-17
Frisky 27-Oct-17
Lost arrow 27-Oct-17
Frisky 27-Oct-17
Frisky 29-Oct-17
Lost arrow 29-Oct-17
Frisky 29-Oct-17
spike78 29-Oct-17
Matt Ewing 29-Oct-17
BigStriper 29-Oct-17
SB 29-Oct-17
Frisky 29-Oct-17
Frisky 29-Oct-17
Frisky 29-Oct-17
MStyles 29-Oct-17
StikBow 29-Oct-17
RymanCat 29-Oct-17
Lost arrow 29-Oct-17
Wild Bill 29-Oct-17
Landshark Launcher 29-Oct-17
StikBow 29-Oct-17
Frisky 29-Oct-17
dean 30-Oct-17
Lost arrow 30-Oct-17
Frisky 30-Oct-17
4nolz@work 30-Oct-17
Ken Williams 30-Oct-17
Frisky 30-Oct-17
Lost arrow 30-Oct-17
Frisky 30-Oct-17
Lost arrow 30-Oct-17
Frisky 31-Oct-17
RymanCat 31-Oct-17
Landshark Launcher 31-Oct-17
Frisky 31-Oct-17
OldBeginner55 01-Nov-17
TrapperKayak 01-Nov-17
Frisky 01-Nov-17
OldBeginner55 01-Nov-17
Frisky 01-Nov-17
RymanCat 01-Nov-17
Lost arrow 06-Nov-17
Frisky 06-Nov-17
Lost arrow 06-Nov-17
Frisky 06-Nov-17
Lost arrow 06-Nov-17
Frisky 07-Nov-17
dean 07-Nov-17
Frisky 07-Nov-17
RymanCat 07-Nov-17
RymanCat 07-Nov-17
Frisky 07-Nov-17
Frisky 09-Nov-17
longbowdave 09-Nov-17
Lost arrow 09-Nov-17
Lost arrow 09-Nov-17
RymanCat 09-Nov-17
longbowdave 09-Nov-17
Lost arrow 09-Nov-17
Frisky 09-Nov-17
Lost arrow 09-Nov-17
Frisky 09-Nov-17
Lost arrow 09-Nov-17
longbowdave 09-Nov-17
Lost arrow 09-Nov-17
Frisky 09-Nov-17
Frisky 09-Nov-17
Lost arrow 09-Nov-17
Herbie 10-Nov-17
Frisky 10-Nov-17
longbowdave 10-Nov-17
Frisky 11-Nov-17
Landshark Launcher 22-Nov-17
BOX CALL 22-Nov-17
RymanCat 22-Nov-17
Frisky 22-Nov-17
Frisky 03-Dec-17
cobra 03-Dec-17
Matt Ewing 03-Dec-17
SB 03-Dec-17
kokosing 03-Dec-17
Frisky 03-Dec-17
Frisky 03-Dec-17
Lost arrow 03-Dec-17
Frisky 04-Dec-17
Lost arrow 04-Dec-17
Frisky 04-Dec-17
Lost arrow 04-Dec-17
Arcus Pater 04-Dec-17
Frisky 04-Dec-17
Lost arrow 07-Dec-17
RymanCat 07-Dec-17
Frisky 07-Dec-17
monkeyball 07-Dec-17
Frisky 08-Dec-17
Frisky 08-Dec-17
Frisky 08-Dec-17
Backcountry 08-Dec-17
Lost arrow 08-Dec-17
Frisky 08-Dec-17
Frisky 08-Dec-17
Frisky 08-Dec-17
RymanCat 08-Dec-17
Lost arrow 08-Dec-17
Frisky 08-Dec-17
Lost arrow 08-Dec-17
MTQUIVER 08-Dec-17
BigJim 08-Dec-17
Lost arrow 08-Dec-17
grizzly 08-Dec-17
grizzly 08-Dec-17
SB 08-Dec-17
Frisky 08-Dec-17
grizzly 08-Dec-17
Frisky 08-Dec-17
OldBeginner55 08-Dec-17
monkeyball 08-Dec-17
Frisky 09-Dec-17
kokosing 09-Dec-17
longbowdave 09-Dec-17
RymanCat 09-Dec-17
Frisky 09-Dec-17
RymanCat 09-Dec-17
SB 09-Dec-17
Frisky 09-Dec-17
grizzly 09-Dec-17
Frisky 09-Dec-17
longbowdave 10-Dec-17
Landshark Launcher 10-Dec-17
Frisky 10-Dec-17
From: Frisky
Date: 19-Oct-17

Frisky's embedded Photo



Folks, I fooled the big doe that fooled me twice this season, lol! I heart shot her at 6 yards and got a pass-through. Used the Grizzly head and couldn't find any sign of a hit. No blood at all, so I went and got MTQuiver, the ace tracker who can't see blood, lol! I made the shot at exactly 6PM and told MT I thought I made a deadly hit but couldn't find the slightest sign after searching for hundreds of yards. He told me she would be very close by, and I should have concentrated from 60 yards in. I took him to the spot I hit her and suggested she ran down a main trail about 25 yards or so away. As we started down the trail, I found the first sign, a drop of what looked like saliva with possible blood in it. It had to be from the deer, so MT told me to stay put while he checked a few yards off to the side. There she was, about 15 yards away! She went 50 to 60 yards. The shot hit right behind the front shoulder and appeared to have hit the heart, it did. Here's a photo of what I think is the exit through the top of the heart.

From: Frisky
Date: 19-Oct-17

Frisky's embedded Photo



Here's a photo of MT with my doe. You can see the entrance wound, tucked in behind the front shoulder. The spot way back isn't a hit.

Joe

From: Frisky
Date: 19-Oct-17




I'll get more pics of the hit when I skin the deer. The lesson I learned today was to never sell your hit short. My first thought was I had a dead deer, and then I started thinking she ran into the next county, and my shot must have been too high. I should have found her right away, but started looking hard 100 yards away from the hit, lol! I'll never do that again. Also, she mule kicked at the hit, and I thought I was seeing things and there must not have been a heart hit. This was a weary doe! There was only one spot I could sit in, considering the wind, and have a chance at a deer, and she didn't do as I expected and walk along the field edge. No, she stayed in the heavy cover that hid me and walked right toward me through it! By the time she saw me sitting in the bushes, it was too late, as I had hit full draw and released. I was hoping for a big doe, after passing them up earlier, as I wanted another hide and meat in the freezer. I can get a bonus tag, so I might hunt with MT later.

Joe

From: Frisky
Date: 19-Oct-17




Oh- the entire chest cavity of filled with blood. It just didn't leak out.

Joe

From: bowbert
Date: 19-Oct-17




Great job! That's a nice sized doe and a trophy for sure. Bret

From: Homey88
Date: 19-Oct-17




Congrats!

From: Frisky
Date: 19-Oct-17




Thanks folks! Yes, I really wanted a shot at this doe, as she was wearier than any buck I've gone after. I might also mention I talked MT into showing me his method of field- dressing and then threatened to puncture his gut if he punctured her gut with his lousy technique, lol! Thats another lesson I learned. Never let MT field dress your deer! You should have seen how careful he was after I threatened to puncture him, lol! He is strong. He helped me drag her a quarter mile! He'll be rewarded.

Joe

From: Fiero Furry
Date: 19-Oct-17




Headed out hunting but had to post before leaving-lol. A super congrats on this harvest!!!! One of the most difficult hunts I ever had was on an 8 yr old doe, but they are the "front line" of security! Great job Frishky, that is a true accomplishment.

From: hawkeye in PA
Date: 19-Oct-17




Congratulations Frisky, and no "rash" burns.

I hunted a wise old doe some years ago never did get her. She could cold trail you to the tree stand 4 or 5 hours later on the driest of days no matter what precautions I took. One briar that rub your rain suit bibs would start her off.

From: BOX CALL Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 19-Oct-17




Good job bud.

From: George Tsoukalas
Date: 19-Oct-17




Congratulations, Frisky! Jawge

From: blisters1
Date: 19-Oct-17




Great job frisky

From: Catsailor
Date: 19-Oct-17




Congrats. That's a nice doe. You might be weary, but I think the doe was wary. LOL

From: Steve Milbocker
Date: 19-Oct-17




That's a nice doe Joe:) Your right about wary, those old girls have caused me way more grief than any buck has!

From: Pa Steve
Date: 19-Oct-17




Great shot Joe. Congratulations on a beautiful doe.

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 19-Oct-17




Nice shootin' Joe. That's a big doe!

From: Wild Bill
Date: 19-Oct-17

Wild Bill's embedded Photo



I can't see the wound behind the shoulder. Could you point it out? Maybe you just sliced the heart and didn't pass through it.

From: fishin coyote
Date: 19-Oct-17




I'm gonna say it before anyone else..... BOGUS.. MT shot that deer for you :)

From: Quack
Date: 19-Oct-17




Frisky I’m proud you got one. You know every now and then the LEGEND has to prove himself:)

From: Barber
Date: 19-Oct-17




Good job Frisky! Congratulations

From: Jason D
Date: 19-Oct-17




Beautiful clean shot Joe!

Was it the power of The Grail that sent that arrow clean through?

J.

From: Lowcountry
Date: 19-Oct-17




My first thought was - "Cool, Ron LaClair shot a deer!"

Frisky - why was your deer so tired? or did you mean she was "wary" or "leery"

All joking aside - Congratulations Frisky!

From: mgerard Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 19-Oct-17




Congratulations Joe. Did you use your your Bush sword- Bolo chopper combination thing-a-ma-jig to field dress it?

From: Skeets
Date: 19-Oct-17




Nice doe! I like that size because you get a lot of good meat.

From: Stan
Date: 19-Oct-17




Well done Frisky...Congrats...

From: uphuntn Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 19-Oct-17




Congratulations...

From: monkeyball
Date: 19-Oct-17




Those mature does are hard to fool Joe, and you did it at ground level! Excellent job buddy!

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: DaGunz
Date: 19-Oct-17




I was going to ask if the Grail was used, also.

From: S.M.Robertson
Date: 19-Oct-17




Congrats Frisky.

From: Jim Keller
Date: 19-Oct-17




The legend lives on. Way to go Joe.

From: Kwikdraw
Date: 19-Oct-17




Great job Frisk, congrats, but shooting weary does, wrung out from running bucks, is just not fair!;^)

From: col buca
Date: 19-Oct-17




Well done !

From: Matt Ewing
Date: 19-Oct-17




Wow that's a big one! Congrats

From: Lowcountry
Date: 19-Oct-17




MT Quiver - you need to move south. I need a friend to come

- find my deer for me

- field dress my deer for me

- drag my deer for me

From: dm/wolfskin
Date: 19-Oct-17




I want to see a picture of you not MT.lol

From: Frisky
Date: 19-Oct-17




Thanks folks, lol! I meant wary. I was weary, as it was nearly 4AM before I could sit down and post.

MT really was a big help- find deer, dress deer, drag deer. However, he stumbled onto it, lol! Plus, I had to show him where I thought it had gone. I have work to do today, skinning and boning out the meat, but I'll get out and find the arrow and report. I used the mighty Grail, and the arrow shot through the deer. As she hauled it out of there, I saw a foot of arrow on the entrance side, so I knew the head had passed through. Had I missed the heart, I think the arrow would have blown all the way through with ease, instead of catching on brush and pulling out the off side.

Joe

From: J. h2os
Date: 19-Oct-17




Great Doe, Joe. jeff

From: Bob Rowlands
Date: 19-Oct-17




Good job!

From: Fisher Cat
Date: 19-Oct-17




Nice doe Joe. Congratulations! - John

From: Frisky
Date: 19-Oct-17




Oh, the doe was extremely fat. We think fat might have clogged the holes. No blood at all on the outside of the entrance and exit wounds. I saw the S cut through the tissue, but I just might go back to the Woodsman with tip pyramid pointed.

Joe

From: jwhitetail
Date: 19-Oct-17




Good work! Congrats on your doe. JW

From: Frisky
Date: 19-Oct-17




Thank you, lol! At least this one has no tire tracks. This one was a legitimate 6 yard ambush!

Joe

From: nomo
Date: 19-Oct-17




Congrats Frisky. What highway were you hunting? ;~)

From: Brian waters
Date: 19-Oct-17




@ 6 yrds a real legend woulda used the bolo sword. CONGRATS FRISKY

From: StikBow
Date: 19-Oct-17




Ahh, common, where are the tire marks? Also, where is that auto-gutting and skinning knives you have been touting? If you had really smacked that doe, the knives would have automatically gutted and skinnned it-even around the Michelin marks. Wink—good job,Joe.

From: StikBow
Date: 19-Oct-17




Ahh, common, where are the tire marks? Also, where is that auto-gutting and skinning knives you have been touting? If you had really smacked that doe, the knives would have automatically gutted and skinnned it-even around the Michelin marks. Wink—good job,Joe.

From: Lowcountry
Date: 19-Oct-17




You never can tell how the blood trail is going to be. I shot a yearling doe with a 30-06 one time and could only find a very sparse blood trail. I knew that she had run out into a clear field, so I quit trailing and walking into the field where she was easily found lying in the open. The deer was quartering sharply to me when I shot her and the 30-06 created a huge exit wound, but the internal organs were hanging out of exit wound and blocking blood from leaving.

Congrats again on your doe - she looks like a small horse.

From: Herbie
Date: 19-Oct-17




Congratulations...and that's why we call you "The Legend"!

From: Old School Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 19-Oct-17




Congratulations, nice big doe!

From: Knifeguy
Date: 19-Oct-17




Way to go Joe,and MT. Lance

From: grizz
Date: 19-Oct-17




Nice fat one, good job. I won't even call bogus on you.

From: Chas
Date: 19-Oct-17




"My first thought was - "Cool, Ron LaClair shot a deer!""

Haha- I thought the same thing but Ron is too humble to use this threads title. Maybe should have read "The Legend's Apprentice took a doe".

j/k, good for you Frisk.

From: Oly
Date: 19-Oct-17




Nice deer Joe, congrats!

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 19-Oct-17




Good job Joe.

From: RonG
Date: 19-Oct-17




That wound further back on the doe was from the hood ornament of a 57 buick that hit her just pror to Frisky seeing her, the reason she did not follow the norm, she was delerious from the accident. Frisky you did it again, you put a wounded animal out of it's misery.

I just had to say that...Ha!Ha!

Great shot and congratulations on your harvest. Six yards that was close, you could have drawn your super knife and jumped her.

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 19-Oct-17




Attaboy Frisky this will be ttt for a month.

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 19-Oct-17




Still no photo with Frisky in it...he might be a figment of my imagination.

From: olddogrib
Date: 19-Oct-17




I see no signs of external trauma. This poor animal was obviously fed apples laced with sedatives. I don't really want to know what happened before she came to, but I wouldn't be surprised if some 8x10 glossies of Frisky turn up in the next big FBI animal trafficking sting operation! I think some tissue samples and fluids should be sent to Nolz for immediate analysis.

From: Wapiti - - M. S. Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 19-Oct-17




Well done congratulations !

From: 76aggie
Date: 19-Oct-17




Well done. Very nice critter.

From: stickhunter
Date: 19-Oct-17




Congratulations on a great hunt. Enjoy the venison!

IMO, very common on a direct heart hit to not bleed externally. I really believe when that happens the heart looses ability to pump blood, especially with enough pressure to leave a blood trail.

From: Frisky
Date: 19-Oct-17




Starting skinning, but I'll post tonight. I too got thinking the heart may have stopped on the hit and blood would not pump. Maybe that was a part of the zero trail.

Joe

From: TGbow
Date: 19-Oct-17




Good job!

From: bigdaddy
Date: 19-Oct-17




That's a nice fat doe there buddy!!!

From: GLF
Date: 19-Oct-17




Mature does harder than mature bucks to outsmart, and from the ground. Congrats on a job well done.

From: bluesman
Date: 19-Oct-17




nice job.. and looks like some fine eating there

From: mgerard Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 19-Oct-17




Looking forward to seeing that S-shaped wound channel Joe.

From: dean
Date: 19-Oct-17




Nice looking doe. I don't understand the lack of blood. To connect with the heart when (I am assuming) shooting from the ground, the hit would not be so high that blood wouldn't be showing up with in twenty yards. Of course, with a hit like that and a Grizzly head, it could have been dull as a butter knife and still take the deer down in short order. I have had similar hits with the Grizzly and they sprayed blood like a lawn sprinkler.

From: GLF
Date: 19-Oct-17




You cut the nerves that make the heart beat the only blood would be what ran out of the heart with no pressure. So it wouldn't take much fat to clog the hole.

From: dean
Date: 19-Oct-17




That makes sense. Probably more would show up if the doe ran longer.

From: Pdiddly
Date: 19-Oct-17




Nice job Frisky...you got the mojo working!!

From: The Lost Mohican
Date: 19-Oct-17




Nice work FriskyJoe! TLM

From: Lost arrow
Date: 19-Oct-17




Great job and not too many hecklers. From the ground no doubt.

From: Landshark Launcher
Date: 19-Oct-17




Who did the autopsy? I think that doe was half blind and deaf, maybe even a stopped up nose. Yea, those 60 yard blood trails are harder to trail than the 3 yard ones..Congrats!!...8- )..Just giving you a hard time.

From: Buzz
Date: 19-Oct-17




Congratulations on your hunt.

From: crookedstix
Date: 19-Oct-17




We need photos of the kill location, to better enshrine this accomplishment of yours. Inquiring minds want to know--just how thick was the brush? What were the species of trees and shrubs? Were you standing, kneeling, or sitting on that squeaky stool you had last year? Details; give us details!

From: skookum
Date: 19-Oct-17




Crookedstix, word from a very reliable source told me that was his neighbor's pet deer!!! Also,the reason there are no pics and details of him with the deer is because of that nasty poaching incident from last summer.

From: Chas
Date: 19-Oct-17

Chas's embedded Photo



MA!!! THE VENISON!!!! @#$%!!!

From: RonG
Date: 19-Oct-17




Pet deer!!!!! now that is why she was so healthy and fat.

From: South MS Bowhunter
Date: 19-Oct-17




Congrats Frisky!

From: Bushytail Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 19-Oct-17




Congratulations!

From: rick allison
Date: 19-Oct-17




I too like Grizzly heads, but also have experienced scant blood trails on great hits.

Great flight, pass throughs are the norm, but external bleeding can be iffy.

I've got two Grizzly and two woodsman 3 blade in my quiver.

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 19-Oct-17




The ol' cut the nerve that makes the heart beat shot.Lol.

From: 9/10 Broke Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 19-Oct-17




There does seem to be something awful Frisky about this story. -Can't really make out a wound where he says he hit her. -The picture of the harvest has someone else in it. -He has the knife of all knives but someone else gutted it. -No blood at entry or exit wounds (which I have NEVER seen). I don't doubt you Joe and am very proud for you killing a mature doe (definitely a very tough thing to do) and from the ground at 6 yards. BUT there is something very Frisky about this story. Just saying. Congratulations on a fine animal Joe.

From: throwback
Date: 19-Oct-17




Congrats on a beautiful doe!! Nice shot!!

From: Andy Man
Date: 19-Oct-17




the Holy Grail of bows shoots so fast thet it cauterizes the hole

Congradulations there Cat Man

From: Frisky
Date: 19-Oct-17




Folks: There has been an INTERESTING DEVELOPMENT! I'll be posting more pics tonight and tomorrow. I hit the deer twice with one shot, lol! Look at the photo. See the wound toward mid deer and high? As it ran off, I saw 15" of shaft coming from there! When we found the deer, MT said I just thought I had hit it back and high. When skinning, blood poured out of that wound and I could see the S cut! It turns out, the arrow flew right through the deer, flipped back toward the deer, and she impaled herself when she spun and mule kicked to run! The second impalement would have killed her too! It went in deep and the meat was very bloodshot! I hit her twice with one shot! That has to be legendary! Has it happened to any of you?

Joe

From: 9/10 Broke Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 19-Oct-17




Ha! I knew there was more to this very Frisky story!

From: Wild Bill
Date: 19-Oct-17




"You can see the entrance wound, tucked in behind the front shoulder. The spot way back isn't a hit."

"See the wound toward mid deer and high? As it ran off, I saw 15" of shaft coming from there!"

Which lie do you want us to believe? For all we know that could be you in the picture.

From: Lost arrow
Date: 19-Oct-17




I knew it. More jealous sceptics are starting surface.

From: dean
Date: 19-Oct-17




I fingered it out. Somebody else shot that deer and the Friskered one found it and shot it again.

From: Lost arrow
Date: 19-Oct-17




That's supposed to be are starting to surface. Darn senior moment.

From: throwback
Date: 19-Oct-17




How could anybody not love this place, lol. I'm gonna go make some popcorn and come back to see what developes.

From: tonto59
Date: 19-Oct-17




Congrats!

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 19-Oct-17




Lol, 2xw/1shot... Now I have heard everything. :)

From: mangonboat
Date: 19-Oct-17




Pretty mature doe...she'll eat well. When the Warren Commission convenes to review the Zeb Magruder footage of the incident, including the muzzle flash from the second gunman on the grassy knoll, offer them a bowl of venison chili.

From: throwback
Date: 19-Oct-17




Cal, don't be too quick to dismiss Frisky's theory. I once shot a buck behind the shoulder with a slug and when I walked up to look at him, there was a second hole through his head. I assume that he swung his head into the line of fire at the last moment to get out of dodge and took the second hit. Now if you stop to consider that frisky's arrow was moving considerably slower It's conceivable that she could have spun around at breakneck speed and run into it a second time, lol.

From: OhioSteve
Date: 19-Oct-17




Nice job!! Jerky time....

From: KDdog
Date: 19-Oct-17




That's a big doe! Well done.

From: Skeets
Date: 19-Oct-17




The story has developed into a big "story". Could this deer possibly be a roadkill? There seems to be no arrow wound at all!

From: arlone Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 20-Oct-17




Nice doe Joe!

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 20-Oct-17




I smell booolsheet...and no pictures with Frisky in the pics.Time to unfollow the bs.

From: Frisky
Date: 20-Oct-17

Frisky's embedded Photo



Here's the entrance wound behind the front shoulder.

From: Frisky
Date: 20-Oct-17

Frisky's embedded Photo



Here's the exit wound, having gone through all that fat.

From: Frisky
Date: 20-Oct-17




I wish I would have photographed the other entrance wound. Don't know how I forgot, but I was in pain trying to skin and butcher the deer with my aching back.

Joe

From: Frisky
Date: 20-Oct-17




Here's what happened. The deer came in at either 5 or 6 yards. I'll measure today. I heart shot her. I was using 508 grain carbons, and the arrow shot through the deer and flipped with the point toward her as she took off. I believe the nock of the arrow wedged in brush, and the speed and weight of the deer caused her to impale herself. The first deer I ever shot was a complete passthrough with the arrow flipping back over the top of the deer. This one did similar but stuck back into the deer. That's my theory and would explain why the hit location I saw, as the deer fled, was higher and farther back than the heart hit. It also shows the tremendous power of the Grail. A bow able to score two deadly hits with one shot!

Joe

From: olddogrib
Date: 20-Oct-17




Okay to expound upon my earlier hypothesis, there does appear to be a deceased vitim. This only proves that someone went right by "Cosby" all the way to "OJ"! I'm ready to accept the "magic arrow" theory because I realized tbat Frisky actually killing a deer would require Divine intervention. I'll back off my cross examination...nice kill. But you really should give due credit and testify...unless she recognized you and had a heart attack from laughing too hard and you just ran up and did the "shish kabob" thing.

From: OBH
Date: 20-Oct-17




Congrats on a trophy doe.

From: Shifty
Date: 20-Oct-17




I agree with Rick Allison! Let me tell you a wild but true story= back in the 1977 i was hunting from a tree stand with a compound bow ,this one late Oct. morning around 9:00 am i was watching a big spike buck with some Does feeding on acorns about 20yds out i watched about 5 minutes before i had a good broad side shot ,at the release of my bow string i heard a slight burp from my right and saw another arrow hit the buck at the same time as my arrow hit and in about the same spot, i watched the deer run off then looked down and to my right to see another hunter there on the ground.The fellow on the ground turned out to be some one i knew ,and he was a still hunter and always use a Recurve Bow ,i climbed down to learn that he had walked up just a few seconds before he shot, he had just saw the deer.We tracked it down and drug it out together but i told him that he had did such a good job of walking up on that deer without me even seeing him i was so intent on watching the buck that in my opion he deserved the deer he objected but finnaly took it with him.I did kill an even bigger buck out of that same stand a week later,an event i will never forget. Strange but true.

From: Landshark Launcher
Date: 20-Oct-17




So you basically shot the deer twice with one arrow?

From: Wild Bill
Date: 20-Oct-17




So the entrance hole is forward of the exit hole(walked right toward me through it)quartering toward you, slicing the heart as it passed through,and then the arrow went over the back of the deer, and entered at the rib cage on the other side, point first.

"The second impalement would have killed her too!" Maybe, just maybe, this wound produced the slice in the heart?

This is one to remember.

From: RonG
Date: 20-Oct-17




No photo of Frisky with his prize, I don't believe any of this. I'm moving on.

From: RymanCat
Date: 20-Oct-17




OMG the sky is falling in so look out. Nice Joe though but really, sure this wasn't another drive over? LOL

From: Skeets
Date: 20-Oct-17




I was thinking that the doe had a lot of fat and also the skin overlapped the wounds which shuts off the the blood leakage. It just goes to show, it can and does happen.

From: nomo
Date: 20-Oct-17




If you look at the "exit wound" pic, what appears to be fat coming across her back and down her side you can see the distinct tread pattern of a Michelin. The hole punched in the side was likely from a tie rod that was broken in the impact with such a large beast. ;~) Just jerkin your chain Frisky. Great shot and nice deer.

From: Dry Bones
Date: 20-Oct-17




I'm with Cat, I'm proposing a different scenario. Frisky- being out of Fruit Loops cereal gets into car, backs down drive, crosses road and hits deer in neighbors yard across road. Doe hops up and runs to the brush, Frisky calls in reinforcements, hands knife off, and doe is found. Second scenario- Joe actually shot the deer, but WAY back, where the wound appears to be in the photo. From the box brush in neighbors yard, Calls in help, deer is found in street and drug to curb. Joe- just having a little fun. Congrats on the big Doe.

-Bones

From: longbowdave Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 20-Oct-17




Studded tires would show multiple wounds, not implying anything mind you, Good job Joe

From: grizzly
Date: 20-Oct-17




I'm proud of you Joe, any deer on the ground at 6 yards is a feat. If its still on its feet when you shoot it.

From: 9/10 Broke Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 20-Oct-17




Now that's funny!

From: Frisky
Date: 20-Oct-17




Just got in from an unsuccessful search for the arrow. I'll have to put MT back on the trail. I couldn't even find the gut pile location, as big tree branches started falling all around me in the high winds. I got out of there quickly and concentrated on the tall grass along her initial path. MT will probably help me find the arrow. Shot was at 5 yards. Photo of shot setup will follow.

Joe

From: Landshark Launcher
Date: 20-Oct-17




Maybe the highway department guys will find it one day when they clean out the ditches.Maybe you should add a string tracker to your grail bow. Congrats again, thats two years in a row you have had success.

From: Frisky
Date: 20-Oct-17




I'm three deer in the last three years! Next year, I'll go for a buck.

Joe

From: BigStriper
Date: 20-Oct-17




Frisky say's, next year I'll go for a Buck.Joe we all know that you will take the First Deer that falls on the Roadside,whether it's a Buck or a Doe.And I am still thinking about that Great shot that hit the Deer twice with 1 arrow,LOL. Nice shot.

Kurt

From: grizz
Date: 20-Oct-17




I can't believe I didn't call bogus on this BS.

From: dean
Date: 20-Oct-17




I have held off from shooting close range does almost every time out this year. I had one at about 15 feet last night, called it in with a fawn bleat. I have been smitten by the the 12 pointer fever. I had him at about 50 yards with my calling attempts last night. He was more interested in the doe that I had in my lap. She didn't bust, but she did not like me much either. I wonder if my Super Holy Grail will put three holes in the buck if I get the chance. Of course, I am not using those whippy carbons, I have Surewoods.

From: Frisky
Date: 20-Oct-17




I'm still gloating over 3 holes in the hide. Not many people have a bow that can do that with one shot!

Wild Bill- I don't think the second entrance sliced the heart, as the wounds were level on both sides. The top of the heart was also in line with the entry and exit.

Here's another scenario. I shot an arrow through the deer. She took off with some of the arrow sticking out that I saw clearly but was in error as to location. I saw it back and high, but maybe it was low and forward? In her dash, she somehow stabbed herself on a stick, producing a 2" slash that looked exactly like an arrow wound.

Joe

From: Frisky
Date: 20-Oct-17

Frisky's embedded Photo



Folks- Here's where I was sitting. I had my squeaky, red stool with me, but I took off my homemade ghillie cape and used it to pad the seat. That kept me more comfortable, so I wouldn't squirm around and squeak the seat, costing me a shot. I also noticed my old camo coat is harder for deer to see than my big cape. To the left, you can see a wide shooting lane that leads 12 yards out into a field. This is the only lane I cut wide. On the extreme right, you can see a bunch of brush. She came through heavy cover, from the right, and stepped out from that bunch of sticks. She would have been nearly 5 yards on the dot. Maybe a 1/2 yard closer. Sorry about the lens smudges. I think they're permanent.

Joe

From: Dry Bones
Date: 20-Oct-17




So where is the neighbors house? Is it that "field" through your "Wide Lane"?

-Bones

From: Lowcountry
Date: 20-Oct-17




Thanks for the blind pic Frisky. That was good patience, discipline, timing, and nerve to get your shot off with her in your lap. Impressive! That really was an ambush.

From: Frisky
Date: 20-Oct-17




Yes, when she looked at me, she was standing relaxed, apparently not sure what I was. My intention was to have her or a buck I'd seen come from right to left along the field edge and take the shot as it stepped into the lane. The cover to my right seems almost impenetrable, and that's the way she came! Right through the bad stuff. She wasn't completely in the clear when I shot, but was close enough to get a hit where I needed it.

Joe

From: Frisky
Date: 21-Oct-17




Oh, in the photo of the entrance wound, you can see my Carbon Canadian Belt Knife Shootemstraight gifted to me. I used it during skinning. I found it to be my best knife for making the cuts needed prior to skinning. The blade shape is perfect for the job. The actual skinning is really a lot of pushing and pulling on the hide and meat, using the knife sparingly. I plan to use the CC as a gutting knife. MT wanted to try my Victorinox Hunter XT or I'd have gutted the deer with this knife. It's really a nice knife!

Joe

From: Frisky
Date: 21-Oct-17




One last scenario- I shot the deer and it ran off with some of the arrow and fletching showing. It stumbled as it went, and the arrow caught brush, pulled out and stabbed the deer. A sharp arrow is dangerous, and this could have happened. Now, I’ve ruled out MT accidentally cutting through the deer during field dressing. The area drained blood when I pulled the skin back and the flesh under the cut was severely bloodshot. That wouldn’t happen to a dead deer. This deer had been dead for a few hours when dressed.

Joe

From: Landshark Launcher
Date: 21-Oct-17




Ok, help me out.I'm not very smart.You just said the arrow pulled out of the deer by some brush, then stuck back in the deer?? , Did this deer have all four of it's legs in working order, unlike your last deer? If this thread don't hit 200 posts, you are not a Legend.

From: dean
Date: 21-Oct-17




That would mean the broadhead caught brush, pulled the arrow through and the deer came back around to stick itself itself. I have never seen a Grizzly go back the way it came from any bow, all but one of mine were pass throughs and that went through the shoulder. I would think that it happened close to where you found the deer. It could have pulled through and then the deer turned around and fell on it. One more way off idea, the deer reached back pulled the arrow out from the point end then slung her head around and stabbed herself from either going for the entrance wound or falling in that position with the arrow in her mouth.

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 21-Oct-17




ttt so Frisky doesn't have to.

From: dean
Date: 21-Oct-17




I think it is far more likely that the back hit was from a prior hit. The doe came through thick stuff that first arrow could be back in the thick stuff. Someone without the Legend's accuracy and without the power of the Grill hit it first. He did say the deer was not completely clear of cover and would not have seen that small spot.

From: Frisky
Date: 21-Oct-17




My brother and I discussed the possibility of someone hitting the deer prior to my hit. I've had to rule it out. The deer was completely relaxed, and no hunters were anywhere in the area. Also, the big slash would have bled all over the place! It wasn't blocked by fat. However, on a deer that had just had its heart stopped, it wouldn't have bled. I'm going to have to call it a mystery and try to find the arrow for more clues.

Je

From: RymanCat
Date: 21-Oct-17




More storys it seems than story lady? LOL

She was on a kids show. At least you got a nice doe there Joey.

The arrow tells the real story but guys discount it all the time.LOL

Poor deer took one look at Joe and said ok hopefully I'll die quick rather than be run over by the car like my sista did last year.LOL

From: BATMAN Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 23-Oct-17




Hope that Frisky or MT can find that ARROW! That is some incredible MOJO!

From: Frisky
Date: 23-Oct-17




One thing I forgot to mention. The spot in the field where I encountered the doe, twice, is only 25 yards from the end of my shooting lane shown in the photo. I believe the doe decided to stay in the heavy cover to avoid where I'd been hiding. She was cagey!

Joe

From: arlone Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 24-Oct-17




Saw your picture on the 2017 Harvest Thread. Congratulations Joe, that's a dandy doe!

From: Frisky
Date: 24-Oct-17




Thanks Arlone! For the area, she's a really nice deer. I'm not much of a doe killer, as I'd like to see the place crawling with deer, but the city is holding a big doe hunt to try to thin the herd. Then you have a lot of the deer being hit on I-90 a couple hundred yards away. A few years ago, I passed up a big doe that hung out in this same WMA. The next day, I saw her dead on the road. The next year, I passed on a buck with a broken tine, in the same spot. The next day, I was driving by the place and there he was, dead in the ditch. Yet, the population is pretty good, so an occasional doe does little damage. I'm still hoping the big doe hunt is a failure.

Joe

From: Landshark Launcher
Date: 24-Oct-17




Now we all know of your secret hunting spot,I90. Did you ever find your arrow? Congrats again!!

From: RymanCat
Date: 24-Oct-17




Why are you watching ditches Joe when you knuckled down and got one on your own? Or that's what ya are leading us to believe anyways. LOL

Just be careful anyone who may help Joe eat this animal I would inspect closely. The grille marks could be tire tracks? LOL

From: kokosing
Date: 24-Oct-17




Mr. Frisky job well done.

Stop giving up all this information. Write a book and sell it to all the want to be hunters on Leather Wall.

While reading the book they will be eating CROW and washing it down with TAG soup.

From: Frisky
Date: 24-Oct-17




My arrow is still out there, waiting to be found. I'm hoping I can procure MT's services this week and find it. Gusts to 45mph again today! Tons of dead wood all over the place where she fell, and it makes it dangerous to search in high wind.

Speaking of grill marks- My ungrateful brother was served grilled pork loin, the best he ever ate, and started complaining that I didn't crosshatch the grill marks! He griped that crosshatching was standard procedure at the place where he once was a cook, lol! So, I had to start crosshatching the marks. I guess it must make the meat look better.

Poor MT feels a little bad, because he did all the work, and I told him I'm "rewarding" him with the neck scraps, lol!

Joe

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 24-Oct-17




Did you check your quiver? Maybe it shot itself right back in there nice and neat after the second pass through.

From: Frisky
Date: 24-Oct-17




I checked the quiver to make sure I had actually taken the shot. I really did, lol! I'm missing that arrow.

Joe

From: RymanCat
Date: 24-Oct-17




High winds dangerous conditions did you think all that when you ran over this critter? You were inside protected weren't you in the car.LOL

Cross hatch your afraid to put your foot in your brothers butt then. He might stop calling you in on road kills.LOL

You need to learn how to find your arrow. LOL

or get ya some lighted nocks.LOL or a string tracker? LOL

3 deer in how long? I'd give up then.LOL

From: BOX CALL Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 24-Oct-17




Needs a arrow finding cat.lol

From: Herbie
Date: 24-Oct-17




..."arrow finding cat." WOW!! I love that one.

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 24-Oct-17




Maybe the arrow found the cat...

From: Bob Rowlands
Date: 24-Oct-17




arrow finding cat lol

From: Frisky
Date: 24-Oct-17




Kokosing- They're jealous of my exploits and probably wouldn't buy the book. They'd buy some garbage Ron or George wrote though.

Joe

From: Lost arrow
Date: 24-Oct-17




Well, didn't dismiss the ability of a cat to find an arrow. I lost a flu-flu in the pines behind my house. The next morning my cat and my blue fletched flu-flu was laying on the back porch. Super nice doe " Frisky ".

From: RymanCat
Date: 24-Oct-17




How did those fellows stop for diner I wonder they put a cloths pin on nose.LOL

Your a piece of work there Joe. Don't worry I know it pot calling kettle black.LOL

Thats is really a nice doe though all ribbing aside.

Did you use that fake Rapala on the skin out or gut job or the guts sqwirt out of the animals butt when it got run over? LOL

From: Frisky
Date: 24-Oct-17




Lost Arrow- Your cat is a fine retriever! I've had several cats that had retriever blood in them.

RymanCat- I had my Canadian Carbon Belt Knife for gutting, but MT wanted to use the SAK Hunter XT I brought along for the saw blade I use when cutting lanes. I let him use it, and he almost botched the job. There's no excuse for cutting into the gut of any animal! I remember the first deer I field dressed. It took me an hour, but I did a beautiful job with nobody around to assist. After I had the guts out, I looked at the gut pile and decided to explore with the tip of my knife, producing an explosion that did no harm but taught me a lesson, lol! From then on, I was a master gutter and still am.

Joe

From: grizzly
Date: 25-Oct-17




maybe there someone will report your missing arrow in their tire?

From: Frisky
Date: 25-Oct-17




Today, I'll go in search of my arrow and report. If I can't find it, MT is going to help, and I'm going to put him in the perfect spot to take a nice buck!

Joe

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 25-Oct-17




Joe, does MT have Cat blood in him? Retriever blood? TK

From: RymanCat
Date: 25-Oct-17




Joe its to bad you don't bait you would be a real master baiter.LOL

Everything ya do seems to be perfect.LOL

From: Landshark Launcher
Date: 25-Oct-17




L.W.= Legend Wannabe. Add master gutter to that..Take a metal detector, maybe you can find it, or there might be another deer running around with out in him.I wouldn't rule it out, since it has already hit the same deer twice with one shot.Congrats again!!

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 25-Oct-17




Maybe you should be looking for TWO arrows Joe, since you hit the same deer twice with the same shot.

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 25-Oct-17




TTT for the day shift

From: RymanCat
Date: 25-Oct-17




Get on with it don't give Joe an inch he will take a mile.LOL

I think Joe is like a Cat maybe he turned into one he loves the stink so much he's gotten immune to the smells.LOL

BTW hoes me spelling been lately.LOL

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 25-Oct-17




Spelling is mediocre, and punctuation abysmal.;)LOL

From: Frisky
Date: 25-Oct-17




Arrow report- I just back from spending an hour searching for the arrow. I immediately found the gut pile and formed a border from where I shot the deer to where the deer ran, to the gut pile where she fell. The area could be called heavy cover, but the forest floor is fairly open. I'm thinking the arrow might be along the first 30 yards, in tall grass. My walking stick should have found it there. I'm gonna need MT to help, and we might find it. The power of the Grail is unbelievable! It shot the arrow through the deer, back into the deer and off into outer space. It could be in Iowa for all I know. It's gonna be a tough find.

Joe

From: BOX CALL Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 25-Oct-17




If its in Iowa,maybe bodymanbowyer will stumble across it.

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 25-Oct-17




Act like you've been in the End Zone before Frisky.

From: Frisky
Date: 25-Oct-17




I think Dean stole it.

Joe

From: Greyfox
Date: 25-Oct-17




Nice doe.

From: Backcountry
Date: 25-Oct-17




Booner doe down. Nice going, Frisky Joe.

Now it's my turn!

From: longbowdave Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 25-Oct-17




If the arrow went through the deer then turned around & came back through, you're looking in the wrong place for it. According to my calculations, a grail powered arrow shot through a deer, twice, should be 6 or 7 yards behind where you were sitting.

From: longbowdave Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 25-Oct-17




You're actually lucky you didn't kill yourself. MT would've had two critters to gut & drag out

From: Frisky
Date: 25-Oct-17




I'm confident we'll find the arrow and solve the mystery.

From: Lost arrow
Date: 25-Oct-17




Longbowdave, I think you may have a good explanation for the event. However, I can clear up the mystery but I'm not going to. Every time I mention portals people get all wadded up. Bottom line is, Legend + Holy Grail +Skill + Intelligence = Big Dead Doe.

From: Frisky
Date: 25-Oct-17




Once again, Lost arrow said it better than I can!

Joe

From: dean
Date: 26-Oct-17




That big doe must have an Iowan, Minnesota does are always short stout have a unibrow and a bit of a mustache. Frisky wants to be an Iowegian so bad that he hunts right on the border? I have shot a few deer not far south and east of Austin when I lived out that way.

From: Frisky
Date: 26-Oct-17




Austin has some really huge bucks, but they're mainly right in town, lol! We're talking monsters that would rank high in the books! This November, a few of them might be taken, as they are having a hunt right in the city parks. The hunters participating must be in tree stands and have to shoot a doe before they are allowed to take a buck though. They'll also be hunting in the WMA where I shot the doe, but the deer in there are super wary and not easily taken.

Joe

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 26-Oct-17




They'll also be hunting in the WMA where I shot the doe, but the deer in there are super wary and not easily taken. LOL!! Nice self promotion Joe. :)

From: Frisky
Date: 26-Oct-17




Yes, I'm the only bowhunter in the region who can successfully hunt in there, over and over. You have to be of legendary quality to do it, as it's a small place and often overrun with compound bow toting scum. They drive everything out or keep the deer in there on edge.

Joe

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 26-Oct-17




Must not be a roadless area... :) They drive everything out, or they drive over them, and you finish them off? LOL!

From: Backcountry
Date: 26-Oct-17




No doubt. I know the ilk of which you speak, Frisky Joe. Must not be any atv's allowed in there or they'd have all the deer run off.

From: Frisky
Date: 26-Oct-17




Yep. No motorized vehicles allowed in there.

Joe

From: Landshark Launcher
Date: 26-Oct-17




I'm glad that you didn't have a string tracker on your bow, cause you probably would be tangled up in a spider web of string after shooting that big monster doe with that powerful grail bow.I think I saw a big rig 18 wheeler going south though arkansas yesterday with a arrow sticking in the side of it's trailer.What color fletching did you have on your arrow?? Maybe put out a amber alert for your arrow.

From: Frisky
Date: 26-Oct-17




An amber alert is a good idea! I want that broadhead back! It's lucky, with three deer in a row to its credit! I can't believe I can't find it! Now we have 4" of snow coming, but most of it will melt.

Joe

From: Frisky
Date: 26-Oct-17




I don't think MT will be able to find the arrow. I think it'll be up to me. I never give up on arrows. I've been known to look around for one two years after I lost it!

Joe

From: Matt Ewing
Date: 26-Oct-17




What's this doing on the second page? :^)

From: Lost arrow
Date: 26-Oct-17




Get a ball of string and start laying out the search area in a 4 square foot grid pattern. You will probably find the arrow before you finish laying out the grid. I once found my grandmother's harmonica that way. I really hope you find your arrow.

From: Frisky
Date: 26-Oct-17




I have the kite string. I'll go ahead and lay it out after our little storm. I couldn't go out today, as it was dangerously windy, and I had to get ready for the cold by finishing raking, putting plastic over the garage window Crookedstix shot out, getting the car ready, hose but away and all that stuff.

joe

From: Frisky
Date: 27-Oct-17




The meat is now thawing out for grinding today. MT asked if he could have some meat to make his "famous" venison chili. I told him I had a big bag of neck scraps awaiting his expertise! He seemed to be a little saddened and went quiet. There's nothing wrong with neck scraps, and beggars can't be choosers!

Joe

From: dean
Date: 27-Oct-17




Okay, now you are making me jealous. If I start hunting with my stomach things are gonna get nasty for does.

From: Frisky
Date: 27-Oct-17




Dean- Now that I proved, beyond a reasonable doubt, that wary, old does are no match for me, I might have to take a trophy buck next year. As much as I like venison, I might have to trophy hunt to put an exclamation point on my greatness.

Joe

From: Lost arrow
Date: 27-Oct-17




What are you going to do with the hide?

From: Frisky
Date: 27-Oct-17




I'm going to take all of my hides and have and shirt made and also make a side quiver and a few other items. I'm well on my way to outdoing Ron and Skookum in the wardrobe department, except for the loin cloth.

Joe

From: Frisky
Date: 29-Oct-17




One last thing. I'll stay off this thread unless I find the arrow. I just wanted to say my theory that the arrow flipped back toward the deer might hold water. I'm thinking it's not what happened, but it could have. You see, I had a 160 grain head with 75 grain steel insert on the end of the arrow. That's a 235 grain head! The rest of the arrow weighs around 274 grains. So, it's a very front heavy arrow. It seems like that could easily flip it.

Joe

From: Lost arrow
Date: 29-Oct-17




You very well could be right. Finding that arrow is of great importance.

From: Frisky
Date: 29-Oct-17




I should have spent a lot more time looking, right off the bat, but I didn't want to ruin it for other hunters. Usually, there's nobody around between 11AM and 2PM, so that's when I'm going back out there.

Joe

From: spike78
Date: 29-Oct-17




Wow Frisky you truly are a legend. I mean who has ever posted a doe kill and thread has gone 10 days!

From: Matt Ewing
Date: 29-Oct-17




And hit 200 post! There it is Frisky 200th post

From: BigStriper
Date: 29-Oct-17




Wow,I thought Frisky might have got another Road Kill,but he shot it twice with the same arrow. Or was it ran over twice,heck I can't remember,Good luck with them deer Frisky.LOL.

Kurt

From: SB
Date: 29-Oct-17




Just saw this,not on here much anymore. Congrats Joe! Never shot a deer twice in one shot,but did have a buck stab himself in the brisket running over the arrow that missed him! Wasn't fatal though,and I ended up with a broken arrow with a wad of hair in the nock!

From: Frisky
Date: 29-Oct-17

Frisky's embedded Photo



SB- Nice to see you back! Here's a photo I didn't want to post, as it muddies the water. It shows the entry and exit wounds. Between them is another slit. I've never cut or torn a hide while skinning, but there's a slit right between the entry and exit holes! I must have done this when I pulled the hide off. There appears to be what I called a third entry wound about 12" low and left of the knife handle. You can see how bloodshot the area is.

Joe

From: Frisky
Date: 29-Oct-17




I meant 12" left and a little low of the knife handle.

Joe

From: Frisky
Date: 29-Oct-17




That third entry wound is right where you see the mark in the photo with MT. I just can't figure out how it happened.

Joe

From: MStyles
Date: 29-Oct-17




I’m thinking that what we have here is a “magic arrow”. Not unlike the “magic bullet” found by the Warren Comission’s investigation. So Joe must use a calendar to check the Grail’s speed rather than a Chrono. This would lend credence to Joe’s theory of what actually happened with the deer and the arrow. ^(_)^

From: StikBow
Date: 29-Oct-17




More posts than trick shooters

From: RymanCat
Date: 29-Oct-17




Trust us Joe we all know the waters are already murky enough. LOL

You say you shot this animal but we dono other than what you tell us.LOL

Go out and shoot multiple animals then talk about that not one animal and then write home on it.LOL

From: Lost arrow
Date: 29-Oct-17




I was selling bags of fat wood at the WV visitor center not far from my house this afternoon. A young couple bought a bag and as I tossed the sack in the bed of their truck I noticed a blood stained arrow. Bow hunter I asked? No, we found it sticking in a buck deer while we were geocaching. Deer had been dead for a few days. We pulled the arrow out and brought it out of the woods. Was that near here I ask? No, up in Minnesota he replied. Upon inspection I see an Easton Storm shaft, plastic imitation feathers, 2 bright greenish-yellow,1 bright orange. Orange nock, and a rust colored 2-blade broad head that somebody only had time to sharpen one side of each blade. The young man said he was keeping it because it emitted a mysterious effect on him. I didn't mention it but I noticed the strange effect before he said anything about it. The reason I am mentioning it on this thread is because it is the same feeling I get when I see pictures of the Holy Grail bow.

From: Wild Bill
Date: 29-Oct-17




Hmmmmm, mystery third wound where an arrow was said to be seen, a missing arrow and perplexing account of details.........sounds like a Twilight Zone episode. Who was President, when you shot that deer?

From: Landshark Launcher
Date: 29-Oct-17




If you would drop down to a 35lb. Bow, your arrow will not pass through your deer and in turn you will no longer loose arrows. You are truly a Legend.Over 200 posts on a MATURE doe kill. If you would have found your arrow, this thread would have been dead long ago. CONGRATS again!!

From: StikBow
Date: 29-Oct-17




Book repository and second shooter conspiracy?

From: Frisky
Date: 29-Oct-17

Frisky's embedded Photo



Lost arrow- that arrow sounds a lot like what I used on the doe. Carbon Storm shaft with two flo yellow and one flo orange vane and orange nock and rust-colored single-bevel head. Do you think I got a buck too? Was it a big one?

Joe

From: dean
Date: 30-Oct-17




Regardless, one thing remains true. You have a freezer full of delicious deer meat. I let another little buck walk, that is four in four days and I am getting hungry. Can I borrow a pound or two of deer burger?

From: Lost arrow
Date: 30-Oct-17




Confession Time. Some of you may be surprised to learn that I lied about the mysterious effect the arrow emitted in my last post. The reason for the post was the Minnesota connection. After seeing the picture of your arrow I am shocked. The arrow in the bed of the truck looked like your arrow. The only other thing I remember is that one of the plastic feathers had black writing on it. As I mentioned in my last post, the strange to me broad head may have been one of those single bevel heads you guys talk about. The young couple was headed to an orienteering seminar somewhere in North Carolina. I did notice Wisconsin license on the truck. Also, the young lady said the buck had a decent set of horns. Stranger things have happened.

From: Frisky
Date: 30-Oct-17




Dean- No. I already gave the neck scraps to MT.

Lost arrow- Yes, it has Easton printed on the orange vane. Must be my arrow. Made it all the way to WV, and I thought it was in Iowa! I once sent up balloons with a note that traveled 24 miles, so this arrow, considering the power of the Grail, could have crossed the country if it landed in the bed of a truck, heading east on I-90, 400 yards away!

Joe

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 30-Oct-17




ttt

From: Ken Williams
Date: 30-Oct-17




Congratulations, Joe

From: Frisky
Date: 30-Oct-17




Thank you Ken!

Joe

From: Lost arrow
Date: 30-Oct-17




Well, I think we can sum this up with a new bottom line. Legend + Holy Grail + Skill + Intelligence = One Big Dead Doe AND One Dead Buck. It is what it is.

From: Frisky
Date: 30-Oct-17




We might have to hold off on the buck for now. The arrow could still be out there, and we dodged a bullet and have no snow on the ground. I have to keep looking.

Joe

From: Lost arrow
Date: 30-Oct-17




If you find your arrow we will know the arrow in the truck bed belongs to someone else. We will just remove "One Dead Buck" from the bottom line.

From: Frisky
Date: 31-Oct-17




Sounds good! MT just told me he can find that arrow in 20 minutes using a modified version of your string grid Lost arrow. We'll just see how good he is! I suspect I'll be the one who finds it.

Joe

From: RymanCat
Date: 31-Oct-17




If I were you Joe just keep working on does if you don't have to run them over that would be better it will give you the experience you need. If you are having trouble learning how to find your arrows then maybe get a lighted nock set up. LOL

From: Landshark Launcher
Date: 31-Oct-17




Hey Joe, how many deer tags are you allowed way up there in the north? Maybe if you have more tags you will get another deer. You are a hero to many here,a true LEGEND.Congrats again

From: Frisky
Date: 31-Oct-17




LL- It's comforting to know there are a few smart people in this forum! If MT is deerless after a few more weeks, I can get a doe tag to take another deer and get him some venison. He's complaining that I didn't properly share the venison I processed. He got neck scraps, hocks, eyeballs and tongue. All go together perfectly in stew. Again, I told him beggars can't be choosers.

Joe

From: OldBeginner55
Date: 01-Nov-17




Hey Frisky, and who found your deer? And who field dressed your deer in 1/4 the time it would have taken you? Why would you doubt he will be able to find your arrow in 20 minutes? You’ve been looking for days.... Don’t doubt the skills of MT! And hey, give him some better meat for his stew, unless YOU want to eat eyeball stew...LOL. ~OB55

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 01-Nov-17




Eyeballs make tasty, tender kabob meat. Try it, you'll like it. Marinate in contact solution, it's like salt brine, to tenderize. No BS.

From: Frisky
Date: 01-Nov-17




OB55- MT doesn't know how to find a deer, let alone an arrow, and he can't field-dress worth a darn! I've only spent a total of 1 hour searching. He gets nothing but his "stew" meat unless he finds that arrow.

Joe

From: OldBeginner55
Date: 01-Nov-17




So what you said earlier about MTQuiver, the ace tracker, telling you she was no more than 60 yards away - and then low and behold HE found her within 50-60 yards while you stayed put was???? And how long did you look for that doe before calling in the ace tracker to help you out? Too funny. Then there is the picture of HIM with the deer and not you, so we know he found her. Maybe this is MTs deer all along and not yours! LOL Nah, MT wants a buck, a big buck not some lowly doe. JK ~OB55

From: Frisky
Date: 01-Nov-17




MT can't see his own boots, let alone a blood trail that doesn't exist. He stumbled onto the deer, but I gave him credit for finding it.

Joe

From: RymanCat
Date: 01-Nov-17




Who's willing to bet this thread reaches 300 plus? LOL

Joe's going to ride this doe till the cats all come home. LOL

Go get another one if you can luck into another one. Please show us you can do it.LOL

I know you can but wipe off the tire tracks.LOL

From: Lost arrow
Date: 06-Nov-17




We're needing an update on the search for the lost arrow.

From: Frisky
Date: 06-Nov-17




I wanted to update, but I haven't looked for a few days. Well, a week. I'm going out this week. MT has been a no-show, so I'll have to do the search alone. The last I spoke with him, he cried about deer tongue, asking "What am I supposed to do with this thing?" I told him to boil it. Anyway, he's keeping a low profile, and I really need to find this arrow!

Joe

From: Lost arrow
Date: 06-Nov-17




Hindsight is 20-20. I wish I had more information on the young couple that had the bloody arrow in the bed of their truck. I remember that it was a late model,silver and had Wisconsin tags. The lady did mention that they had had two mechanical issues with the truck on the way from Wisconsin so you would have to assume it was a Chevrolet. I really hope you find your arrow so I can forget about the one in the truck bed.

From: Frisky
Date: 06-Nov-17




I should have gone today, but they started the doe hunt. I'm going tomorrow around noon, MT or no MT.

Joe

From: Lost arrow
Date: 06-Nov-17




Good luck, hope you find it.

From: Frisky
Date: 07-Nov-17




If MT wasn't so lazy, it would have been found! He's one of these guys, like RymanCat, who spends his entire season sitting in a tree over bait. Unlike Rymancat, he's over a food plot and not a big pile of corn!

Joe

From: dean
Date: 07-Nov-17




My wife shot over a doe last night. Last seen the arrow was heading your way, when you get out there keep an eye out for it. Her first miss with that bow in four years.

From: Frisky
Date: 07-Nov-17




Dean- I'll keep my eyes open for that arrow.

Joe

From: RymanCat
Date: 07-Nov-17

RymanCat's embedded Photo



Get yourself one of these Joey. LOL

From: RymanCat
Date: 07-Nov-17

RymanCat's embedded Photo



BTW Joe this is my 4th this season so far tons of meat how ya like that shot on her. Look how she sprayed. Steve Wonder could follow and might have triped on animal she fell so close inside 40 yards. Shoot them like this and they don't get lost!

Now bucks this season have been giving me fits so far but one day it will come together and I'll forget about all the trials and tribulations and getting hurt a few times.LOL

This was a big girl also that sled I can fit in 5"9 and look at her next to it. She nearly kilt me getting her out and dressed and in truck. 10-25-17 shot this last one.

From: Frisky
Date: 07-Nov-17




That's a nice little bait pile deer and turkey! Good job! A nice pile of bait and a tree stand in the neighbor's backyard and you're good to go! Let me know if you want me to teach you how to mix venison for burger. I just had another fantastic burger! The best ever!

Joe

From: Frisky
Date: 09-Nov-17




Just a quick word. Yesterday, I searched for an hour and a half and found nothing. The arrow seems to have been gobbled up by the arrow god. I believe the mortally injured deer did what they often do- zigzag. I think the arrow is just 10 to 15 yards off to the side of the search area. MT says he can find it in 15 minutes on Sunday. He can't find squat! My dad would have told him he couldn't find his butt if it wasn't attached to him. I'll report and post a pic if MT proves me wrong. Otherwise, I'll have to give this thread a rest, as there's no point in carrying on with the search after I prove MT wrong.

Joe

From: longbowdave Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 09-Nov-17




Sounds to me like MT better pick it up a couple notches if he's wants to remain the Legends sidekick. If it's a performance based position, he'll never get beyond the neck scraps you gave him

From: Lost arrow
Date: 09-Nov-17




I will be heading into the backcountry tomorrow for about 10 days so I'll be out of touch with the LW until I return. I think it's time for us to seriously consider that the arrow that the young couple found in a buck in Minnesota may be Frisky's.

From: Lost arrow
Date: 09-Nov-17




Longbowdave, what day should I dread your arrival and the laborious job of carrying all your stuff up the mountain to the camp?

From: RymanCat
Date: 09-Nov-17




You still looking for this arrow? Your brutal it won't be found when the tires drove over the animal.LOL

Go out and work on another animal.

From: longbowdave Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 09-Nov-17




Tuesday evening, I'm glad you're going to be there. I'm bringing a futon you can give me a hand with. Those things are sooo comfortable for mid-day naps, I have to bring it

From: Lost arrow
Date: 09-Nov-17




I'll carry whatever this year. Next year I'm moving to the other side of the glade. Wish I was in Minnesota helping Frisky look for his arrow.

From: Frisky
Date: 09-Nov-17




I wish I was out hunting with you folks in the mountains. It's cold and windy here! We're at 18 and dropping to single digits and windy! Still, I might get a bonus tag and shoot another doe and give a shoulder roast to MT for his efforts dragging it out for me. It looks like another venison-deficient season for the mighty MTQuiver!

Joe

From: Lost arrow
Date: 09-Nov-17




Forecast is calling for temps in the teens tomorrow night. I wish you could hunt with us. It's not as enjoyable as it used be. I'm much older than the rest of the guys in our bunch. They are starting to get on my nerves. Through the years I've taught them everything I know and they still don't know anything. Sure would be nice to have a legendary person to talk to.

From: Frisky
Date: 09-Nov-17




Yes, I have to make it out there. We could discuss the finer points of hunting, and take a few deer, while the youngsters come up short.

Joe

From: Lost arrow
Date: 09-Nov-17




Well these "youngsters" are in their 40's and 50's.. I must say that one of them is ok, the rest is a bunch of idiots.

From: longbowdave Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 09-Nov-17




The "OK" one has to be a yankee, I know you have a soft spot in your heart for them. Look at how well you & Frisky get along....

From: Lost arrow
Date: 09-Nov-17




I'm not getting into this now, Longbowdave. Going to hit the sack. I'm hitching a ride on a northbound delivery truck at 4:30 am. He will put me within 7 miles of our camp. See you Tuesday evening darn it. Frisky, hope you find your arrow. I will check back in a week or so.

From: Frisky
Date: 09-Nov-17




Yanks tend to be the best hunters. When I stop out to WV, I'm first riding down south to show those folks how to hunt. Then, I plan to stop by RymanCat's place and give him an instructional on hunting ettiequte.

Joe

From: Frisky
Date: 09-Nov-17




Good luck Lost Arrow! I'm sure you won't need it like the rest of them.

Joe

From: Lost arrow
Date: 09-Nov-17




Thanks Frisky. Longbowdave, I don't base friendships on compass points, state boundaries or Mason Dixon lines. And yes, you are the OK one of the bunch. It's not because you're a Yankee. You stand out because you're real and you're nice but you're not real nice. I've got to go.

From: Herbie
Date: 10-Nov-17




...300 on the horizon but I enjoy the drivel, well..at least until The Legend introduces another story, go Joe!

From: Frisky
Date: 10-Nov-17

Frisky's embedded Photo



Here's a photo I found of Rymancat. They claim he was a "dangerous ruffian" when beyond the reach of the law!

Joe

From: longbowdave Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 10-Nov-17




Kindve like an early Ken doll, with a gun....

From: Frisky
Date: 11-Nov-17




Yep. He's from 1836.

Joe

From: Landshark Launcher
Date: 22-Nov-17




Well, did anyone ever find the arrow? Are you having doe for thanksgiving meal? I hope MT don't choke on them neck bones. Congrats again!!

From: BOX CALL Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Nov-17




Dang,that gun looks like a howitzer with a stock.

From: RymanCat
Date: 22-Nov-17




Hey now.LOL

Looks to me like a market gun if I was back in that time period I would have been a market gunner and had one of those too.LOL

Only thing I was against from that time period of market gunning was they used to use nets to trap shore birds and sell them as they flew down the coast lines. Your not allowed to shoot them but some say they were really tasty and there was a big market for them. Most of the fisherman were also market gunners, trappers whatever you wanted to refer to them back in 1700's think it was before our time there Joey. LOL

From: Frisky
Date: 22-Nov-17




I'm having doe backstrap tomorrow. MT isn't invited. No arrow yet.

Joe

From: Frisky
Date: 03-Dec-17

Frisky's embedded Photo



MT finally went looking for my arrow today. In an effort to impress his lady friend, he found it, in plain view, in 7 minutes. He’s trying to claim his $10,000 reward! The problem is, he brought me only 2/3s of the arrow! It’s the broadhead that’s worth the 10 grand! I let him know he isn’t even getting 10,000 cents, unless he finds that broadhead section! Here’s a photo of what he found next to the full length of these arrows. Either his friend found it or more likely, it was hidden in a vertical position and dropped down in the grass along the field edge, becoming exposed. He might post a pic in the thread. From the photo he showed me, it was in plain sight and I’d have never missed it. Heck, I checked that exact spot for over an hour! Anyway, I need the other end of this arrow! I let MT know the job is unfinished! He also dropped off a bloody knife for me to sharpen. At first, I wasn’t sure I had previously sharpened that knife. However, when I felt the edge, and it was still razor sharp, I knew I had sharpened the Pakistani pile of garbage!

The Legend

From: cobra
Date: 03-Dec-17




At my draw length I can still use the top arrow!

From: Matt Ewing
Date: 03-Dec-17




Would a legend use a pre fletched Wal-Mart arrow? I am thinking not. Sad Joe very sad.

From: SB
Date: 03-Dec-17




The front half is usually impossible to find. I have several of them in the woods in several states! First deer I shot in 1968 in the Northwoods,I actually DID find the front half several days later.

From: kokosing
Date: 03-Dec-17




Look like a crossbow bolt or maybe Joey just got a short draw.

From: Frisky
Date: 03-Dec-17




MT was crying due to my attitude. He expected a reward and pat on the back. I warned him- no good deed goes unpunished! Anyway, it's possible the front can be found, as my nephew is an expert treasure hunter and has pretty sophisticated metal detecting equipment. I plan to show him the broadhead, on one of the other arrows, so he'll know the detector signature and then put him on the trail. I think it will be fairly close to where MT found the back end. Also, the deer ran along the field edge and the down a trail where we found her. It's didn't run through the heaviest cover, so I think we'll find it. Careful detecting is the way to go in this situation.

Joe

From: Frisky
Date: 03-Dec-17




Ignore typos in my above post. Should have proofed it.

Joe

From: Lost arrow
Date: 03-Dec-17




Glad you recovered part of the arrow, hopefully you will find the front section. Was the blackstrap good ? MT must be a real nut case.

From: Frisky
Date: 04-Dec-17




Lost arrow- how did the hunting trip go? I hope you weren't jinxed by some of your companions. That happened to me the last time I hunted with MT. Anyway, yes, MT is a real nut case. He honestly thinks eyeballs, hocks, tongue and neck scraps are the best parts of the deer I shot! He shot a 120 pounder and is insisting it was 130 dressed. In a few days, he'll post a doctored pic and have it up to 170 dressed!

Joe

From: Lost arrow
Date: 04-Dec-17




No deer, really didn't hunt much. I spent a good deal of time exploring some of the more isolated country of the Wilderness area. Most of my time was spent lugging guys stuff from the end of the Forest Service road up to camp. However, Yankee Doodle Davey, ( longbowdave on the LW ) brought a new design of a trad longbow he had built. Really unusual but very efficient. I don't like giving him credit for anything but this guy has some bowyer skills.

From: Frisky
Date: 04-Dec-17




Dave is an innovator. He makes an excellent arrow holder.

Joe

From: Lost arrow
Date: 04-Dec-17




His bow is on the " Back to trad ... I think " thread.

From: Arcus Pater
Date: 04-Dec-17




Why Frisky....you Lady Killer !

From: Frisky
Date: 04-Dec-17




LA_- I'll check out his bow.

AP- Any doe that has the audacity to walk too close to me is a dead doe.

Joe

From: Lost arrow
Date: 07-Dec-17




We need an update on the lost front part of your arrow.

From: RymanCat
Date: 07-Dec-17




So now your saying you found the ass end of the arrow? LOL

Joe don't think you could find any butt in a doe house.LOL

From: Frisky
Date: 07-Dec-17




Arrow update: I have not looked for the front of the arrow due to extreme cold temperatures. However, I've lined up a kid with a metal detector to look for me the next time he's in town. So, I just might find my million dollar broadhead! At least we now know the deer ran straight west, along the field edge, and the back of the arrow fell out 25 yards from the impact site. We also know the spot where we found her.

Joe

From: monkeyball
Date: 07-Dec-17




Joe, Are those vanes on those arrows? How long did it take you to take the Grim Reaper off of the front off that arrow and screw that Grizzly in?

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: Frisky
Date: 08-Dec-17




Yes, those are vanes. Next year, I plan to use red osier or black ash shafts with the Grizzly heads.

Joe

From: Frisky
Date: 08-Dec-17

Frisky's embedded Photo



Arrow update: Folks, MT found the front end of the arrow, but I think his lady friend found it and he took credit for it to wrestle the $10,000 reward out of me. He doesn’t get the reward, as he was 1 minute over the time limit. He claimed to have taken 7 minutes to find the tail end and 14 minutes to find the front end. If my math is correct, that’s 21 minutes. He said he could find the arrow in 20 minutes. Plus, he didn’t have the required video proof of the exploit. Well, I think he deserves something, after complaining about eyeballs floating atop his stew, so I’ll have to get him a Christmas present. What do you think I should get him? It has to be cheap. Anyway, the edge on that Grizzly, after sitting out in the open along the field edge since October 18th, still took a little hair off my arm! I’ve now got it back to shaving sharp, but I might retire it. I’d like to take a 4th deer with it. He (or she) found the front end 5 yards farther down the trail from the back end. The red color of the Grizzly stood out against a white ground. We were able to piece together what happened:

The deer came out of heavy cover, approximately 4 yards in front of me. I released an arrow, striking the deer tight behind the left shoulder and got a pass through, the arrow going through the top of the heart. The deer mule kicked, spun around and headed through brush, about 10 yards to the edge of the field and ran westward along the field edge. I thought I saw the arrow back farther than the actual hit but was mistaken. The back half fell out in 25 yards, probably standing upright in tall grass. The front section fell out 5 yards farther down the trail, to the NW. The deer turned north into the woods and ran another 20 yards, lying down by a boulder and succumbing to its injury. Upon skinning, I found a third wound, very fresh, probably caused by MT’s sloppy field-dressing. That would explain the third wound. Thus ends the mystery of the double-dead deer. All that remains is to get him a cheap gift. Maybe a $10 gift certificate to McDonalds? That might be overdoing it though.

Joe

From: Frisky
Date: 08-Dec-17

Frisky's embedded Photo



Here’s a closeup of the broadhead.

From: Backcountry
Date: 08-Dec-17




So what you actually shot was a deer mule? Out here we call em mule deer...

From: Lost arrow
Date: 08-Dec-17




Glad this case is closed. So the cat found on I - 90 with the front of an arrow in it is another story. Medium size bag of Doritos would be a fitting gift for MT.

From: Frisky
Date: 08-Dec-17




Lost arrow- Good suggestion on the Doritos! I think they're on sale this week too. They could share the bag, and they last longer than a McDonalds burger and fries.

Joe

From: Frisky
Date: 08-Dec-17




Mistake! I said the doe came out of heavy cover at 4 yards. 4.5 to 5 yards would be more accurate.

Joe

From: Frisky
Date: 08-Dec-17




RymanCat- Speaking of market gunning, you would have been responsible for the loss of our passenger pigeons if you lived back then.

Joe

From: RymanCat
Date: 08-Dec-17




Yeah I would have killed them too. LOL

Especially when they tried to send notes home that there were Pirates spotted on coast. LOL

Shiver me timbers all good matey. LOL

I shot a ladys white pigeon once she came running out of her house in her night gown screaming at me about shooting her white pigeon. How was I supposed to know it was her bird it was flying free and not near her house either.

I ate it and it was tasty too. Pet or not it didn't go to waste.LOL

From: Lost arrow
Date: 08-Dec-17




Birds are tasty, me and my dad would roast blackbirds in the fireplace back in the day.

From: Frisky
Date: 08-Dec-17




Disgusting. You're both disgusting human beings, in your own way.

Joe

From: Lost arrow
Date: 08-Dec-17




If you have never eaten roasted black birds you're missing some good vittles. Mother used to bake them in a pie.

From: MTQUIVER
Date: 08-Dec-17




Today, my significant other and I located Frisky's broadhead that he states he has taken 3 other big game animals with. Here is my version, (the REAL version), of what transpired over the last few weeks. I will attempt to keep it short and to the point. Frisky called me up, basically in tears, stating he had taken a shot on a nice doe and wanted me to come over to track the animal, but thought it was an unrecoverable deer. After hearing him relay the particulars of the shot placement and reaction of the doe, I told him I thought it was indeed a recoverable deer and most likely had not gone more than 80 yards. Long story short, Frisky and I went out to track the doe, which I located in short order. Due to Frisky's limited ability at field dressing, I handled that chore as well. No big deal there. Frisky then walked ahead of me as I dragged the deer out of the woods and back to the vehicle. He cried most of the way back to his place, stating that was the only broadhead he owned and it was sentimental to him as he found it by an old tree stand, thinking it was a real old Indian head. So he offered me $10,000 if I could find his arrow which I located in about 7 minutes, but he said I had to find the broadhead too. I finally had a chance today to go back out and found the head in about 14 minutes. It had snowed and was a bit difficult to see, but the task was handled in short order again. Frisky now has backwatered on the reward as he thinks the combined time was one minute too long. My reputation as a tracker, field dresser, dragger, and arrow recovery partner has been besmirched. I am traumatized and feel my character has been maligned. Since this is suppose to be the season of good will toward men, of which, I can only assume Frisky still qualifies for, I am going to accept his decision to not pay me for the recovery of his sentimental arrow head. He is THE LEGEND and I must respect that title. Though his actions in this matter are also LEGENDARY, I am going to be the bigger man. I wish you well in future endeavors Frisky and call me anytime you need help in game recovery. I am still willing to help where I can. Merry Christmas. MTQUIVER

From: BigJim Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Dec-17
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Nice save MTquiver... I believe he Uglied it to death and this whole story crap and the desecration of the carcass is just a smoke screen to cover up the real cause of death.

Now what kind of smoke he's using to make that smoke screen is for another discussion!

BigJim

From: Lost arrow
Date: 08-Dec-17




MT. Your account of the deerslaying is probably believable but not exactly as Frisky's account. Therefore I would like to say I believe it is 2 hunters perspective of following up on a hunting encounter, recovering the animal, and putting together the pieces of the puzzle. As far as your part in the event I think you should receive a large bag of Doritos and a Snickers bar.

From: grizzly
Date: 08-Dec-17




Just wanted to be mr. 300

From: grizzly
Date: 08-Dec-17




Just wanted to be mr. 300

From: SB
Date: 08-Dec-17




I believe the toxic fumes from Hormel's has something to do with this whole debacle!

From: Frisky
Date: 08-Dec-17




Am I the only one to detect a hint of sour grapes? The crybaby didn't get his reward because he was a minute over the time limit. In the words of ex-convenience store robber, Charlie F., "Rules is rules." I knew where that deer was or we would never have found it. I also supplied a decent light or MT would have missed it. Even the found arrow was the result of time and blind luck. How can a blind man find anything that isn't attached to him? Doritos and Snickers it is, but that's it. I think MT should head down to Georgia and hunt with Big Jim. When the hogs come in, Big Jim will be snoring in his stand while MT snores in his pop-up, hahaha! I can't wait to get a photo of MT's doe to post here. 120 pounds on the hoof, and now it's up to 170 and growing by the minute!

The Legend

From: grizzly
Date: 08-Dec-17




nailed it , twice. Frisky go back inside, your head is starting to freeze.

From: Frisky
Date: 08-Dec-17




A lot of jealousy in this thread. A lot of jealousy.

"Thee" Legend

From: OldBeginner55
Date: 08-Dec-17




Please forgive me for my limited experience in responding to these posts. I am new at this and find this site to be refreshing and interesting to say the least. If i may weigh in on this matter, it seems to me that this MT guy has gone out of his way to help a friend in need and has accomplished a great many tasks that Mr Frisky was in dire need of. At first, i was not sure there even was an MT guy cause he never responded, so i am glad to know there are Individuals out there willing to sacrifice their time and effort to assist others in need.. It does puzzle me however, to see MT being verbally abused but perhaps this is just friendly banter. Perhaps, a little better compensation would be in order here. While $10,000 appears to be a bit excessive, a bag of Doritos and a snickers bar seem woefully inadequate. Just saying. Hopefully, a satisfactory resolution to this dilemma can be acquired. Best of Luck Gentlemen. ~OB55

From: monkeyball
Date: 08-Dec-17




I still can't get over the fact that Mr. Osier (aka Frisky) is shooting PLASTIC VANES.....

You probably have one of those little motors on your bicycle too........

Good Shooting ->->->->Craig

From: Frisky
Date: 09-Dec-17




OB55- I was overly generous with the guy. He got a bag of neck scraps, eyeballs, hocks and tongue and couldn't even appreciate that! All I kept were hindquarters, backstraps and tenderloin. Cripes! I'll think about giving him more than a bag of Doritos and a Snickers bar.

Monkeyball- I should have used a red osier or black ash shaft and natural fletching. It would have added greatly to the experience and have been easy to find, as the shafts are light in color. Come to think of it, they do look a lot like the straw-colored grass though. At 5 yards, even at 15 yards, they would do the job. I'll tell you what; next year, I'm going to use them. Taking a mature deer is no longer much of a challenge for me, as I've mastered the art of disappearing in plain sight, so using more primitive arrows would add some challenge.

The Legend

From: kokosing
Date: 09-Dec-17




Since MT did all the work The Legend need to do something spiecal for Christmas for a great guy like MT.

Get MT a large can of Spam and wrap it up with a ribbon on it too. MT not getting any meat off those neck bones.

From: longbowdave Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 09-Dec-17




You'd think that assisting a LEGEND would be reward enough. Wanting more than that, quite frankly, shows lack of character.

From: RymanCat
Date: 09-Dec-17




Pigeons taste great if they are eating grain and seeds not the ones that fly in the city like some might be thinking they are disgusting I see what you mean and agree. They are like a big dove.

I bet the lady if it was her pet feed it well also and it had a plump breast so it was even better. I should have thanked her for keeping bird for me to shoot and eat.LOL

Wait a minute you need help with a metal detector! Come on now this is real nonsense Joe.LOL

From: Frisky
Date: 09-Dec-17




The Spam gift is a super idea! I also agree with Longbowdave here. MT should have been honored to assist me. Instead, he's begging for a reward. I'll tell ya a funny story:

Last year, on Halloween, I got a tearful call from MT, begging me to assist him- immediately! I explained I was passing out candy to the little kids and would help him out in less than an hour. He screamed, "I need help now! Forget those rotten kids!" MT put his own distress ahead of hungry little kids. Now he's trying to bum a reward out of THE LEGEND!

Joe

From: RymanCat
Date: 09-Dec-17




TO THE TOP TO THE TOP TO THE TOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KEEP THIS THREAD GOING AND MAYBE THE NEXT CIVILIZATION FINDS THE FRONT OF JOES ARROW.

TO ZEE TOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From: SB
Date: 09-Dec-17




Pay attention Cat......the front half of the arrow was found about 40 posts ago!!

From: Frisky
Date: 09-Dec-17




Just a quick word. I filed off the rust, steeled and have a wicked sharp head again! I might post a pic. It's so darn sharp, I almost have to use it. It would also look good on a wild shoot shaft! I might put it back into use next season.

Joe

From: grizzly
Date: 09-Dec-17




with plastic vanes, a person might wonder if you were using a less than traditional bow? Enquiring minds want to know.

From: Frisky
Date: 09-Dec-17




Bob Savage uses vanes. Paul Schafer used vanes. Enough said!

Joe

From: longbowdave Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 10-Dec-17




Both Lrgends in the archery world....interesting

From: Landshark Launcher
Date: 10-Dec-17




I think that the trad police should investigate, this whole doe kill. I'm not sure that plastic vanes are considered trad. And tell us about that Hecs suit that you wear. BOGUS!!!

From: Frisky
Date: 10-Dec-17




LL- I've transcended physicality when I hunt. I've no need for a HECs or ghillie suit. As stated, just before the sun began to set and the doe came out, I quietly slipped out of my homemade ghille cape and sat on it for comfort. I realized I could make myself disappear in plain sight. This is a skill that cannot be mastered by anyone operating below legendary status. They cannot disappear without climbing into a tree or pop-up blind.

Joe





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