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Elk taken with stone point

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Inver 10-Oct-17
BATMAN 10-Oct-17
CMF_3 10-Oct-17
moosehunter 10-Oct-17
JimPic 11-Oct-17
Cameron Root 11-Oct-17
Pa Steve 11-Oct-17
joe vt 11-Oct-17
limbwalker 11-Oct-17
Sidetract 11-Oct-17
Mountain Man 11-Oct-17
Will tell 11-Oct-17
stickbow21 11-Oct-17
aromakr 11-Oct-17
76aggie 11-Oct-17
GregE 11-Oct-17
George D. Stout 11-Oct-17
Wapiti - - M. S. 11-Oct-17
JusPassin 11-Oct-17
JusPassin 11-Oct-17
Cameron Root 11-Oct-17
Bud B. 11-Oct-17
GUTPILE PA 11-Oct-17
jk 11-Oct-17
nrthernrebel05 11-Oct-17
nomo 11-Oct-17
mgerard 11-Oct-17
Bentstick54 11-Oct-17
Bentstick54 11-Oct-17
Greyfox 11-Oct-17
jwhitetail 12-Oct-17
greyrider 12-Oct-17
Cameron Root 12-Oct-17
hvac tech 12-Oct-17
Elkpacker1 12-Oct-17
The Beav 13-Oct-17
Randy 13-Oct-17
WV Mountaineer 13-Oct-17
Bob Rowlands 14-Oct-17
Riverwolf 14-Oct-17
Jon Stewart 14-Oct-17
From: Inver
Date: 10-Oct-17

Hey guys....head over to youtube and check out Ryan Gill's archery hunt in's pretty cool. Search "Epic Stone Point Takes Down Bull Elk."

From: BATMAN Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 10-Oct-17

Definitely have to look at that! Twisted Limb makes some COOL stuff!

From: CMF_3
Date: 10-Oct-17

Good video! Hats off to him getting it done the hard way.

From: moosehunter Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 10-Oct-17

Hats off to him, now that's traditional!!!

From: JimPic
Date: 11-Oct-17

That was fricken awesome from beginning to end

From: Cameron Root
Date: 11-Oct-17

Great production. Rooty

From: Pa Steve
Date: 11-Oct-17

Excellent. Definitely, getting it done the hard way. Judging from where the elk died those goats sure came in handy.

From: joe vt
Date: 11-Oct-17

Very cool. Great job Ryan!

From: limbwalker
Date: 11-Oct-17

Watched it. I don't think the stone point was the weak link in that kill shot. Congratulations on them finding the elk.

From: Sidetract
Date: 11-Oct-17

Nice harvest, and good video! Congrats!

From: Mountain Man
Date: 11-Oct-17

Ryan does nice work

The pack goats are a trip!

From: Will tell
Date: 11-Oct-17

Will tell's embedded Photo

Here is a stone point Ryan Gill made. I've checked out other stone points but his were the best.

From: stickbow21
Date: 11-Oct-17

Way to go Ryan. Those pack goats were pretty neat too.

From: aromakr Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 11-Oct-17

What makes taking an elk with a stone point "the hard way" Its not any harder to shoot stone over steel! Properly made stone heads are every bit as lethal as steel.


From: 76aggie
Date: 11-Oct-17

It is a lot harder to take the time to make that stone point than it is to order steel headpoints off the internet.

From: GregE
Date: 11-Oct-17

Obsidian and other points I've looked at have some unevenness- not symmetrical due the 'grain' of the rock. Getting true flight requires a Lot of fletch

the pictured point does look good!! G

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 11-Oct-17

The point weight can be accommodated by using the correct spine for that point weight. You don't need to over fletch an arrow, just use a stiffer spine for heavier head.

From: Wapiti - - M. S. Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 11-Oct-17

Have to check it out soon

Date: 11-Oct-17

Dedicated stone guys rarely, if ever have all the same length arrows in their quivers. Each has to be tuned to its own shaft. Its time consuming and tedious. But if hunting that way is your thing, then it has to be done.

From: JusPassin Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 11-Oct-17

From: JusPassin Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 11-Oct-17

From: Cameron Root
Date: 11-Oct-17

He's doing it. Our loss on this site. Rooty

From: Bud B.
Date: 11-Oct-17

Ryan made everything used.

Bow, string, arrow, fletching, point, and all were made by using primitive skills. (Not certain of the string material used)

That is a much harder way than buying everything and just tuning it. Very much harder. The journey to get to the releasing of the arrow on game took more skills than most are willing to invest. I am at the top of the list. Kudos to him.

Congrats Ryan!

Date: 11-Oct-17

That is crazy WOW!!!

From: jk
Date: 11-Oct-17


From: nrthernrebel05
Date: 11-Oct-17

I think it is great that some want to and can go back in time like that. I don't have the skills nor the patience to do it myself.

From: nomo
Date: 11-Oct-17

Yep, that's good stuff right there. Thanks for puttin it up.

From: mgerard Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 11-Oct-17

How far did that bull go after the shot? That mountain terrain made it look like it went a long ways.

From: Bentstick54
Date: 11-Oct-17

Ryan is the real deal. I ordered three points from him. They came in with very sharp serrated edges, and all within 3 or 4 grains of each other. From that point when I used pine sap and deer sinew to hart the to my cane shafts I was able to match them to the weight of my Magnus stinger broadheads.

While I have been making and successfully hunting whitetails for the past 6 years, that is as far as my talent has taken me. I wish I was 1/2 as talented as Ryan. He is the real deal in my book. Hated to see him leave this site.

From: Bentstick54
Date: 11-Oct-17

Meant to say making my own selfbows in last post.

From: Greyfox
Date: 11-Oct-17

He amazes me with the skill he has with different parts he makes and then is able to get game . Strictly a hunter here.

From: jwhitetail
Date: 12-Oct-17

Outstanding hunt and hunter. Really enjoyed that. JW

From: greyrider
Date: 12-Oct-17

I use his arrows and points and they are great. Way to good Ryan

From: Cameron Root
Date: 12-Oct-17

Ridicules statement Bob your are clearly missing the POINT. Rooty

From: hvac tech
Date: 12-Oct-17

Rooty i agree. i know this much killing a bull elk with modern equipment is a feat in its self , let alone primitive stone heads. stone heads are very effective with good shot placement .

From: Elkpacker1
Date: 12-Oct-17

Very cool hunt, I have to ask with all the wolves we keep hearing about I would like to how did the goats not atteact them. Or find the carcess . Do not get me wrong, I find using goats interesting to pack out elk.

From: The Beav
Date: 13-Oct-17

Videography is outstanding and I found the use of goats interesting too.

From: Randy
Date: 13-Oct-17

I enjoyed Ryan's narration of the hunt. But getting to see the equipment he uses was cool. Right down to his bobcat quiver and coyote backpack. Way to go.

From: WV Mountaineer
Date: 13-Oct-17

He is the real deal

From: Bob Rowlands
Date: 14-Oct-17

Inver, thanks for the YT link.

From: Riverwolf
Date: 14-Oct-17

Awesome hunt and video Ryan ...Huge Congratulations with a beautiful Elk , and a hunt that I'm sure no photo or footage could do justice .

Thanks for taking us along , and enjoy all that wonderful , nourishing meat that bull has provided .........

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 14-Oct-17

Ryan is a top shelf guy. We flew him up a couple of winters ago to be our guest speaker at our annual winter banquet. He did an outstanding job.

YUP, I agree that shooting an animal with a stone point is no big deal, so they say, BUT making your bow, making your arrows and knapping your point is a big deal and not many do it. The trouble is unless you take on this task you have no idea the work involved. I belong to an archery club ( one of several) that gave small game awards for taking rough fish. I took a self longbow, a wood arrow (using a dowel maker) that I made using turkey feathers from a bird that I shot and a stone point and went carp shooting. I shot a dogfish and went home. I did it to prove to myself that it could be done. I sent the photo in with the info and received the photo back with a patch. The club puts out a club magazine 4 times a year. There no mention of the fish or a photo in the successful hunter page. NO big deal except I am willing to bet that has NEVER been done by anyone a member of this club using this equipment and probably never will. Some of you are right, no big deal.

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