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Sika Longbow

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From: ShadeHaven
Date: 05-Oct-17




I love build-a-longs. I enjoy seeing you waller's talent and seeing how you guys build.

So here goes a new one for me.

Ive been thinking for 2 months or so about how I want to build a new form. I never handled a shrew or Big Jim Thunderchild but I like the design and look of that style bow. So I drew a pattern and looked at it for days, changed it, and finally after a while of looking at it decided its time to make this thing into a form

It will make a 58"-60" bow. Handle forward. Fast shooting.

I glued up a riser this week. Im building this bow out of materials I have already.

Hickory and walnut riser with brown and white glass. Brown and white glass overlays and tips.

I'm going to make quartersawn sycamore veneer limbs over maple or hickory core. Not sure on the core yet.

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 05-Oct-17

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Routing the shape from MDF to the plywood form

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 05-Oct-17

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Bolting on my homemade brackets. Form is about done.

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 05-Oct-17

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Riser template

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Date: 05-Oct-17

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Glued up riser

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Date: 05-Oct-17

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One thing I should mention, the pieces behind belly will be hickory also. I will be staining sycamore and hickory with walnut aniiline dye. Never dyed before. This will be a test so it's not the first time for me when I build Jim Keller's

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 05-Oct-17

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This will be the emblem I will draw onto the upper limb on this bow model.

From: Chas
Date: 05-Oct-17




Very cool, sure you'll make a beauty! Good luck!

From: falcon
Date: 05-Oct-17




I want to keep up with this one

From: mgerard Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 05-Oct-17




Looks neat. As long as you're practicing staining, maybe try a grey stain too? :>)

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 05-Oct-17




I always could try that mgerard.

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 05-Oct-17

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Form brackets I made work great.

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 05-Oct-17

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Contact cemented the Formica strip with house pressure. Gotta work fast. Stressful!

From: marc
Date: 05-Oct-17




The elusive 8 point sika deer!

From: yohon Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 05-Oct-17




Having hunted them critters for ever ya got my attention!!!

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 05-Oct-17




Yea your right they don't get much bigger than 6 points ain't? Ha

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 05-Oct-17




I want to shoot one sometime. I was born in Baltimore. Going down to the eastern shore I think it would be cool to hunt one

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 06-Oct-17

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Made my veneers

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 06-Oct-17

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Stained them walnut. Mixed the dye a lil heavy

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Date: 06-Oct-17

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Made my maple core parallels and tapers.

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Date: 06-Oct-17

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Date: 06-Oct-17

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Rough cut the riser

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 06-Oct-17

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Made sure it fit the form perfect

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Date: 06-Oct-17

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Ready for glue up

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 06-Oct-17

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Ready for the oven. My wife said she will take care of turning off the heat box at 7pm. She's so good to me. I'm off to the woods. Had a productive day not at my day job!

From: BATMAN Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 06-Oct-17




Hope to see the FINISHED PRODUCT in a week or so????

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 06-Oct-17




Maybe the weekend bat man! I don't like to mess around haha

From: Jim Keller
Date: 06-Oct-17




Looking good Brian.

From: Fishgut430
Date: 06-Oct-17




Looks great!

From: JakeBrake
Date: 06-Oct-17




Keeping an eye on this one...

From: mahantango
Date: 07-Oct-17




Hey Brian, I have a Kanati you can check out if you want.. very similar to a Shrew.

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 07-Oct-17




Mahantango, sounds good. I'll have to look at it sometime.

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 07-Oct-17

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Out of the form

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 07-Oct-17

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Mark out template for belly riser block

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 07-Oct-17




Fit to a tee, time to glue it with overlays. Trying to do too much at once but what the heck I'll give it a try

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Date: 07-Oct-17

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Date: 07-Oct-17

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Clampage!

From: wannabe
Date: 07-Oct-17




Man that's nice

From: BATMAN Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 07-Oct-17




I am CURIOUS about the "SIKA" branding or name? Did I miss the explanation??

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 08-Oct-17




Sika deer originated from Japan. They are in the eastern shore of Maryland. They are lil a small elk.

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Date: 08-Oct-17

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Date: 08-Oct-17

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Date: 08-Oct-17

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Sweat drips on the floor. Rasping is a workout

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 08-Oct-17

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Date: 08-Oct-17

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Had to get a string on it quick!

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 08-Oct-17

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Sika compared to the Timberstick which is my original model.

Sika is on bottom

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 08-Oct-17




I screwed up on that bottom limb. Going to need to change my riser a little bit and do a little tillering.

From: BATMAN Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Oct-17




SHADE, MERCY BOW COUP for info about the deer ( miniature ELK) Hate to hear about the bottom limb. DRAT! Hope that You are not back to square 1 ? What went astray?

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 08-Oct-17




My riser was off a little. That's the main thing. Didn't expect it to be perfect coming off the form for the first one.

From: BATMAN Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Oct-17




SHADE, Hope that THIS is gonna be a REAL easy fix. Was this a case of the form not quite up to spec? DRAT!

From: Brian waters
Date: 08-Oct-17




Really loving the sika

From: Twisted Branch
Date: 08-Oct-17




Wow!

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 10-Oct-17




I tillered the bottom limb and put some silencers on the string to get a real feel for this bow. I must say I think I just finished a winner. No hand shock. Fast. Best part is it's quiet. I love this bow. I may make a YouTube video on this one.

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 10-Oct-17

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From: RG
Date: 10-Oct-17




Very nice!!!! Will the Sika handle 31"-32" draw? Thanks for sharing!

From: mgerard Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 10-Oct-17




Brian, do you still need to make changes to the riser?

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 10-Oct-17




Yes I need to make a change on the bottom fade, it's not as short as the top, so it made the limb bend a little different.

I drew it to over 30" & no problems

From: Cameron Root
Date: 10-Oct-17




Great effort.

From: Homey88
Date: 10-Oct-17




Very nice! Sweet looking bow!!!

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 12-Oct-17

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Drew a Sika deer there order the upper limb

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 12-Oct-17

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Date: 12-Oct-17

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I'll spray thunderbird on this evening

From: Barber
Date: 12-Oct-17




Very nice job ! Keeep it up

From: 2 bears
Date: 12-Oct-17




Excellent,very nice bow. >>>----> Ken

From: Jim Keller
Date: 12-Oct-17




Good job Brian. I'm looking forward to trying it. Jim

From: mahantango
Date: 14-Oct-17




Loving it Brian!

From: fn
Date: 14-Oct-17




Great looking bow. What is the riser length. Do you use a 1 1/2" wide form.

From: mahantango
Date: 15-Oct-17




After hunting season is over, I might have to get together with you and get on the list. I'm really interested in this bow.

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 24-Oct-17




Sounds good Paul!

Its been a bit since I got to post the final pictures I just glued another up today and built two so far since this first bow on the sika form.

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Date: 24-Oct-17

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Date: 24-Oct-17

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Date: 24-Oct-17

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Date: 24-Oct-17

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Date: 24-Oct-17

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I will never try to splice a parallel. will just use one long piece in the future, its too hard to keep them joined.

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 24-Oct-17

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Heres one in a 58" I just finished today.

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Date: 24-Oct-17

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Date: 24-Oct-17

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From: Andy Man
Date: 24-Oct-17




really like the woods in the second one beautiful together

From: mgerard Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 24-Oct-17




Like the darker one. the finish really goes well with it. looks like a real hunting bow.

From: Barber
Date: 24-Oct-17




Very nice

From: Archre167
Date: 25-Oct-17




Really like the dark riser too. All very nice!

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 25-Oct-17




Brian, that is one good lookin bow.

From: Draven
Date: 25-Oct-17




Great looking bows!

From: Kent Alan
Date: 25-Oct-17




Great work! God and Christ Bless

From: throwback
Date: 25-Oct-17




Beautiful work Brian!!

From: Longcruise
Date: 26-Oct-17




"I will never try to splice a parallel. will just use one long piece in the future, its too hard to keep them joined."

Kennym has a good method of doing it. I DIDN'T use it on the last lay up and had the same gaposis. If he doesn't come on with it I'll do some pics for you. I just did two yesterday but didn't take any pictures. I can take some though if Kenny doesn't jump in. He's probably out hunting.

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 26-Oct-17




Interesting, even with a hard bend like this bow has? I tried super gluing but it popped apart before it was near compressed when I dry fit it.

From: Longcruise
Date: 26-Oct-17




Yeah, I know, I machined away an inch off each pair trying to get them to stay glued together. Was my first non ASL bow and it's a different process for sure.

My ASL forms have stop.blocks on each end with all the lams cut to fit tight against the blocks which keeps them butted together. I don't bevel them at all, just butt them together. That didn't work with an RD form!

I'll do the pictures later this evening.

From: Longcruise
Date: 26-Oct-17

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Here's what I did. The nails are for illustration, the pins in the lay up will be wood. This was clamped up in alignment and the holes drilled with a #41 drill (.096). Lams are marked as to which end they go on and the layer order.

Kennym s system is more sophisticated. He glues the lams together and his locator pin(s) (I think he uses one) are spring loaded from inside the riser.

From: Longcruise
Date: 26-Oct-17

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From: Longcruise
Date: 26-Oct-17




You can see in the last picture that the alignment is off the center of the riser by about 1/16" but it won't have a noticeable effect.

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 30-Oct-17




This won't work in a pressure hose setup like I have tho??

From: Longcruise
Date: 30-Oct-17




Once it's in position and clamped you can tape it down.





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