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Crester chuck

Messages posted to thread:
Inmyelement 13-Sep-17
Bob Rowlands 13-Sep-17
Hal9000 13-Sep-17
StikBow 13-Sep-17
M60gunner 13-Sep-17
StikBow 13-Sep-17
Longcruise 14-Sep-17
aromakr 14-Sep-17
Bob Rowlands 14-Sep-17
Inmyelement 14-Sep-17
aromakr 14-Sep-17
Longcruise 14-Sep-17
Inmyelement 14-Sep-17
M60gunner 14-Sep-17
Bob Rowlands 14-Sep-17
Hal9000 14-Sep-17
trad47 15-Sep-17
aromakr 15-Sep-17
Bob Rowlands 15-Sep-17
Longcruise 15-Sep-17
Inmyelement 15-Sep-17
Inmyelement 15-Sep-17
Sailor 15-Sep-17
Sailor 15-Sep-17
Hal9000 15-Sep-17
Shifty 18-Sep-17
From: Inmyelement
Date: 13-Sep-17




I have a homemade crester that I have only used for carbon arrows in the past. The shaft on my motor is 6mm and with carbon shafts I can slide the arrow over the motor shaft and everything works great. I'm working on wood arrows right now and have a lot of wobble. I've tried various metal tubing, rubber tubing, rubber inside of metal etc. Going to look into the possibility of a small drill chuck. Any other suggestions? Being this is my first attempt at wood arrows they aren't perfectly straight, which is proving harder than I thought. How much will a little bend in wood arrows effect cresting? TIA

From: Bob Rowlands
Date: 13-Sep-17




I've crested many hundreds of wood arrow. Wood arrows need to be eyeballed and straightened prior to cresting, or you'll get less than stellar results. Any kind of arrow hop at the crest is gonna suck big time. Just tweak em until they don't hop. You'll get it, it just takes practice. Have fun.

From: Hal9000
Date: 13-Sep-17

Hal9000's embedded Photo



Put the point end in the chuck, or what ever you are using for a chuck and the nock end away. Also make your cradle so it can be moved, even if the arrow is slightly crooked where ever the cradle is, the arrow is spinning straight there. In the picture, the chuck and point are to the right and the nock end to the left. That is a bifold track behind and my cradle slides against that.

From: StikBow
Date: 13-Sep-17




Any ideas for chuck? I used a piece of surgical air tube, but it slips too easily

From: M60gunner
Date: 13-Sep-17




I bought the chuck replacement for the Bohning lil Crestor. But my motor only had a 1/4 shaft. Trouble with a drill chuck is it leaves marks. They are available from woodworker supply houses.

From: StikBow
Date: 13-Sep-17




Thanks. Good advice

From: Longcruise
Date: 14-Sep-17




If you chuck it up on the point end the marks should be gone after tapering.

I've had the same problems and might just get a small chuck and also try the suggestion made by Hal

From: aromakr Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 14-Sep-17

aromakr's embedded Photo



Regardless of what kind of chuck you use, your not going to eliminate the wobble when the shaft is turned by the end. You need a machine like this, that turns the shaft need where the crest is being applied. This is the "Phillips Pro crester"

Bob

From: Bob Rowlands
Date: 14-Sep-17




Now THAT is a crester.

From: Inmyelement
Date: 14-Sep-17




Thanks for all the advice. I would love one of the manufactured crester, but they all seem to be in that $175 range. I'm didn't pay that much for my Samick Sage.

From: aromakr Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 14-Sep-17




Brent: They are certainly not cheep, however I speak from experience, you will nickel and dime yourself silly trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear. And they just will not do what you want them to do. A friend of mine and myself developed this crester some 25 years ago and I've found nothing better, and will last for generations. They are an investment that can be handed down to your kids and grandkids. I'm still using the original proto type after 25 years of commercial use. The first 15-20 years it ran 5-6 hours a day 6 day's a week and is still going strong.

Bob

From: Longcruise
Date: 14-Sep-17




That's a fine piece of equipment. If I were a pro there would be something of that type on the bench.

From: Inmyelement
Date: 14-Sep-17




Can you crest fetched arrows with that machine?

From: M60gunner
Date: 14-Sep-17




I have one of the Pro Crestors as well. Had it for at least 10 years. Only ever had to change the belts. Also have the Spin rite Crestor, an other great product. I really like both and use them interchangeably. I sold my home made one with the store bought chuck. It worked fine for aluminum shafts but I got tired of wavy lines with the woods. No matter how well those shafts spun they always seemed to be wavy in the crestor.

From: Bob Rowlands
Date: 14-Sep-17




I'll be danged. I had no idea that crester was designed and made by you Bob. That is a fine piece of work. Very nicely done.

From: Hal9000
Date: 14-Sep-17




Bob.. I didn't nickle and dime myself and the crestor I have $10 in works great. Just have to be smarter than the crestor :)

From: trad47
Date: 15-Sep-17




Beautiful crester! Bob.. where did you find the right Motor and parts to cobble the setup? I have always-wanted To put on few bands of color. Really nice!

From: aromakr Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 15-Sep-17




Guy's I don't build these, they are built by my good friend, Kurt Phillips. He and I designed the machine. Kurt builds the innards I do the box.

Bob

From: Bob Rowlands
Date: 15-Sep-17




Well, you guys built a fine tool for sure.

From: Longcruise
Date: 15-Sep-17




If you want extremely fine and professional work, you NEED a tool like Bob's.

If you just want to decorate them a bit you can do it by rolling the shaft along the edge of a table and hold the brush in your other hand.

Not saying this to bash or denigrate anybody's equipment or workmanship. Just saying that it can be done and the end product will be your own.

From: Inmyelement
Date: 15-Sep-17




For now I just won't crest wood arrows, I can get a pretty good line on carbons. Wish I had that kind of money to spend on decorating arrows but on a single income with 2 5-year olds a crester falls in the wants, not needs, category. I'll keep trying to find a way to make my current set up better.

Where I made the mistake this time was assuming I would be able to crest wood arrows the way I did carbon. Thinking this I did a 2 tone stain on the shafts but didn't care about how clean the transition was because it was going to be covered by cresting. Oops. So to keep plugging along on the arrows I taped off the transition and painted them. I call it minimalist cresting.

From: Inmyelement
Date: 15-Sep-17

Inmyelement's embedded Photo



From: Sailor
Date: 15-Sep-17

Sailor's embedded Photo



I made a homemade creater from just stuff I had laying around. It is certainly not as nice or easy to use as a professional model but it does a pretty good job. I do chuck the point end and it would work a lot better with a better chuch. Here are some arrows I made for my grandsons.

From: Sailor
Date: 15-Sep-17

Sailor's embedded Photo



Sorry that picture is blurry. Hope this is better.

From: Hal9000
Date: 15-Sep-17




Sailor... thats one of the tricks with a direct drive crestor, put the point end into the chuck, not the nock end.

From: Shifty
Date: 18-Sep-17




I crest before i install the nocks and like Hal9OOO my cradle is movable too.





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