What has made you give up on bow hunting?

Haven't.

A younger friend of mine, only hours ago, called me to come over and take away his bowhunting gear. He is moving from Connecticut to southern California, to live with his in-laws. He also informed me that he no longer eats animals, which he explained, was for health reasons. At only six weeks into his new diet, both he and the wife have lost weight and are encouraged to continue. He mumbled something about someday hunting again and I reminded him that there are plenty of "hunters for the hungry" programs somewhere. It was sad to sort through the gear and give thought to who might be able to use it.

Yesterday, another friend, more my age, 68, commented about possibly not hunting again. He's in a time of transition. He recently lost his wife, the love of his life, and what's going through his mind is to concentrate on what is important to him. He is an excellent archer and stated that he isn't giving up shooting the bow at targets. The property he's been hunting has seen fewer deer in recent years, but he does enjoy sitting in the woods to rest/reflect, so, I'm getting him to link up with me at my best location. We have more than hunting in common, and I hope to have some interesting conversation with him.

Good question ny yankee, I'll keep reading this thread.

I haven't given up completely, but I sure don't do it like I used to. I've killed so much stuff over the years, it's like, I've been there and done that.

I'm with you too there Dan. I look around how many more animals do I need to shoot? Rather sick of it all. I guess if I was sharp and really healthy I might have a different out look. I ask myself why did I shoot 5 turkeys this spring and if I wasn't pushing then would the valve lasted longer? I canceled my insurance screw them Dr's this cash cow dried up. Sick of paying 1,200.00 plus per month. If I need a Dr. I'll pay them out of pocket and just pay what meds out of pocket. If I need a surgery hope I can make it to Meadicare then in 4 months?

I don't even know what to think anymore I'm really sick of everything and feed up with all the fake BS everywhere.

I do look forward to bird hunting with my dog though but even she is getting old like me too.

Way I feel anymore its just a matter of time and end of an era. Time to lay down the trophy's and leave and want too and ask all the time. LOL

Trophy's don't mean swat to me anymore when I look at all this stuff hanging around its rather sad too.

I know that this is not answering the original post but I also found myself losing my enthusiasm like Jim C. above. I got a trail camera as a gift a few years ago and that got me out again BEFORE the season starter. Seeing deer on the camera got me eager to get out hunting. Now I once again eagerly await the opening day of archery season.

I am about 90% there and will likely skip this season. although I am not entirely sure why, the reasons I can think of are minimal amount of available time, poor game populations within a reasonable driving distance and a lack of interest in shooting a bow.

I was reading the thread on the find at an estate sale. if I could find a buyer, I would sell my stuff.

Sometimes you just can't explain the feelings you get. I'm not depressed, nor do I have any physical illness, but sometimes I would as soon go work around the cabin on our mountain land as hunt. I am looking forward to season as I always do, but the need to kill anything is the last thing on my mind after all these years. Nothing wrong with that, it just lets more opportunity for the younger set.

It's always in the back of my mind. For health reasons. VA upped me to 100% this year. My body is getting broken and beat up. Seems like after and hour or two of piddling around the house, I'm done for the day. I had to hire a guy to mow my yard this year. I can't even cut or split my own firewood anymore. I might just sell it all and stick to bank fishing. During the winter months I might buy a guitar. Thanks for letting me vent. But im loosing my mind over this. But thats ok I still have God and family. Nybubba

I will give up bow hunting onl y when iam unable to do it. So god willing I have a lot more ahead.

At 61 it's never crossed my mind. I haven't missed a deer season my entire life even when I was in the Navy for 22 years. Good Lord willing I don't plan to miss any in the near future!

Not giving it up but sure has lost some of its shine for me here in PA. I miss many of the old hunting camps and the tradition that disappeared with them.

I'm 67 and it is one of the few things I live for. When I loose that drive then I would just as soon hang it all up!

If, I downsize, it will be more fishing and less hunting. But I will not give it up completely. I will enjoy small game hunting, and hopefully have a friend with a freezer that I can hunt deer with.

Wow this thread pretty much made me sad.

I may be the youngest waller on here. (27)

I'm happily married for 4 years with a 15 month old daughter. I have an optimistic outlook on life. I can credit that to none other than my Lord Jesus Christ.

I was just up on the mountain checking trail camera with my father in law this afternoon and we were talking about the future of our nation. It's a scary subject. I know i can't change the heart of man but GOD can. That's why I will live my life in the best way I can and serve him. Enjoying his outdoors, that's part of it. As long as I'm able, I will.

One of you guys close to Indiana could cheer yourself up by taking this ole fart sonewhere to get a deer or turkey. Ive taken deer but not with recurve. Never got a turkey yet. Im 60 yrs old. So you got 5 turkeys this year (-; wow

I still hunt and spend a lot of time doing it

just have lost the urge to kill

someties I will, and most I just draw and let down - but I gotta be out there and trying

never would have convenced me of that 10 years ago , just kinda happened??

Maybe I read to much into this or not enough. But when the Autumn colors come, the cooler nights and days, the first frost I'm still drawn into the woods to enjoy Gods creation. But I no longer have to kill something to have a enjoyable season.

In my mind I'm still bow hunting........

At 65 I love it as much as I ever have. I'm not able to hunt the way I did a few years back and most of my old hunting buddies have passed. So I do miss them and the camps we shared but I can't imagine giving up.

Yes I agree- the way I feel now

the hunting is still there but the need to kill aint

I enjoy the trill of the chase. I enjoy the serenity of the woods. I enjoy watching the critters and the woods that God made for us to use wisely and enjoy. I love venison. My family loves venison. I love watching a well-tuned arrow fly. It all just fits together, like a hand in the glove. Someday health reasons may prevent me from bowhunting, but that's probably what it would take...and even then I'd still be bowunting in my daydreams.

It's the evolution of a hunter. But it is a very individual thing. Everyone pulls back the reins in their on way...as it should be.

I still love to hunt and get excited each year but here in the Northeast it is not fun sitting in a tree and seeing hardly any deer. My season was so bad last year I didn't see a deer let alone a coyote, fox, bear, nada. Sometimes I ask myself what am I doing sitting in a tree just to see a few squirrels. Back when I first started I would sit dark to dark and have my stands up way before the opener. Now I go with my climber here and there and find it hard to sit for even four hours. Times have changed.

Andy thats how I am to now exactly. I think I enjoy the preperation and planning along with the hunt but could care less if I kill anything anymore.

I was starting to feel a bit of this about 10 years ago (I was 55 then) and then I started hunting from the ground, mostly stillhunt/stalk, and did that ever get the engine running again!

I don't have to lug all that equipment around, and it's NEVER boring as you have to be "on" every second, and while having deer in range is common getting a good shot is another matter so a kill is NOT a sure thing by any means.

It made hunting fun again, with emphasis on the word "HUNT"!

I find myself much more interested in small game than deer the last few years. My primary objective now is to make as many memories as possible with my grand kids and pass on what I can, while I can. Some of that will require a kill, so they can learn respect. For my own personal time in the woods I am more interested in seeing the things that I used to overlook trying to kill a deer.

Crow where in Indiana are you from? I may be able to help come turkey in the spring!

" For my own personal time in the woods I am more interested in seeing the things that I used to overlook trying to kill a deer."

BINGO! You get it! What you will also find is that this knowledge will make you a better hunter.

I hunt about as much as ever. I just don't care to kill all that much now. I love to be in the outdoors and it doesn't really matter if I have a bow or a camera. It is so much fun to try to outwit the animals and get into position for a shot, whether taken or not.

Just can't yet,,,,I have two churches,,,one with a P.A. System,,,,,,one with a view,,,,,,I really like the view,,,,,just me,,,,and Him,,,heck sometime ,I'll hunt a bit,,,,how else to recharge that battery inside us ,,,good luck,,,,,,,,get out there he's listening ,,,jeffw

Like someone once said, "Too soon old and too late smart".

nothing,, never gonna give up hunting,I plan on not making a job or career out of it like in the past,, but,,, I enjoy bow hunting, and its a big part of my life,, even when I dont get to go,,, just planning and making bows for the hunt,, everybody has there own life journey ,,, so do what you need to do to reach your destiny,, B

I'll stop hunting when you HAVE TO bring a cell phone with you!

I never hunt with crossguns, gadget bows or bang sticks...100% trad hunter,,However...In our area of Pa the meat hunters have stupidly pounded and pounded and pounded the doe so the hunting is awful. When Pa made stinking crossguns legal in archery season "Bowhunting" sunk to a new low.In addition to that there is more and more trash in the woods and not all of it is bottles, paper and cans...A lot of it is 2-legged and it saddens me there is a growing lack of respect for the outdoors. I still bow hunt at 66 but because of those 3 reasons the adventure of hunting in Pa has faded. My passion has become stick bow hunting antelope in Montana. I do however still slip through the Pa woods with my recurve for squirrels but the desire is fading. Doing more flyfishing now.A s ad tale but true !!!:( :(

At 70+, I still get stirred up about the hunt. I want to hear nature, feel the mountain breeze and smell what God has created in that hunting zone. If I miss, it's okay and I laugh at myself - not like when I was younger and beat myself up over it. If I don't see any shootable game, that too is okay because I'm there and that is what matters. I can't climb as high or as fast, but again, I'm there! I know this - if you miss a season or a hunt or a fishing trip, you can never get it back.

As many of you in this thread have expressed.............the actual kill during a hunt is not the priority..........going hunting with my buddies or just walking through the Lord's creation on my own with a bow in my hand is a beautiful feeling that us bowhunter's know only too well........

As the years roll by, I do less and less hunting,because my buddies have moved on, buddies who own hunting properties I hunt on have either moved on or have fallen asleep,physical ailments,etc I guess all these can contribute to "tiring" of hunting but not tiring of using the bow........I plan on doing more hunting.....physically, but in all honesty, I pick up and hold any of my hunting bows, admire their smooth lines, their beauty, and as always, the memories of hunting with that bow floods my mind of how grateful I am for the great times I have had, and God willing the great times I will have down the track......

I guess hunting is a time I can enjoy in the woods,whether I kill anything or not, it does not matter.....its just knowing it is only temporary (just like anything else in this life) and that it is an addition to my life's experiences...........though I must say, one of the good experiences

I've slowed down on my hunting in recent years, but I haven't slowed any on shooting my bow and that's ok. Last year was my 35th year to bowhunt. It was the 1st time I never took at least one deer bowhunting. I passed on some and missed a couple and came up empty handed. Had a close encounter with a nice buck, but never shot. Just that one encounter made my season a success in my eyes. I like eating venison, love being outdoors, its all good. Sometimes I enjoy stump shoot and scouting more than the hunt its self. Now days I get more satisfaction helping someone else get a deer than getting one myself. Also things have changed in regards to having land to hunt. Big money and greed have taken over. So many looking for that trophy buck. Lost most of my best places. I still have some places and still enjoy getting out. I think as long as I'm able I will always hunt some.

I'm just a few months short of 80 and just about to leave with my friend Joe to do a DIY elk hunt in Colorado. In my years of hunting I have hunted as hard as some and harder than most. This year is the 60th anniversary of the first deer that I got with a bow. (a Paul Bunyan 65# all glass) I have always appreciated the field and the stream that God has given us to enjoy but I can no longer draw that 65# bow and I can no longer climb that 15,000 ft mountain. Now my enjoyment comes by helping people get interested in trad archery and building bows, also the great people I have met in the trad archery community through my bow building. Marc

am losing desire to go as my life-long hunting/fishing partner/older brother loses his battle with pancreatic cancer. when he feels good enough to get out of the house, it normally ends up as a road trip looking for critters and remembering "back when". i have been in the woods very little since onset of his disease, although i did manage to get him in place to take a fat doe with a rifle last fall. it just is not the same withot him, don't know what i will do when he passes...

Croaking will stop me. Nothing else. Killing an animal alone is probably the driving force. Nothing to interfere. I can hang with the buddies elsewhere.

I only have forty or so years of hunting behind me. I was bit by this bug before I was a teenager. I am blessed to have family and close friends who are all as passionate about hunting as I am. We have hunting property with camp houses that always need work. My life revolves around it. When I have time off I have something calling me that I enjoy doing, and that makes my life a little happier. I am 52, which makes me a youngster on this forum. I realize that I am in some of the best days of my life. I can't see myself ever stopping bow hunting. Some of the posts above sure made me think about how lucky I am to have my health and my loved ones around to share the campfire. Hunting with a bow is such a solitary endeavor. The older I get, I place more value on my relations with other archery hunters. Talking about hunting is damned near as good as the hunt itself. Very thoughtful thread.... Don't quit guys! Find a worthy youngster and unplug them from their hi tech world and teach them how to hunt.

Terminally ill spouse. It didn't stop me in my tracks, but it has totally changed my direction. Nothing was ever going to stop me either, I was wrong.

Starting to lose interest after surgeries & now a shoulder has just healed. Finally after over a year I'm able to shoot my recurve.Just getting started for this season it will be different probably will stay out of the climbing stand. Hunting public land mostly this year, not very good at stalking due to knee replacement and issues after the surgery.Getting old sure does stink.

I'm trying hard not to give up, but things sure have changed for me physically. Probably just be small game this year. Close to my house.

GIVE UP BOWHUNTING?.....NEVER!

Life changes

I cant spend every moment in the woods anymore But i work hard to get out with stick and string,,,and steel an led ; )

I will say the older i get the more small gaming i enjoy,,,and the logistics are much easyer to fit in my schedule Im lucky years ago we bought our mountain and owning my own hunting land makes it easyer to organize my time big or small game hunting I can scout,groom and set up my stands,blinds and planed routes all year when i get the time and watching and learning the animals on my property is much more enjoyable when i can do it as i see fit Like Mr Stout said working the land is almost as enjoyable as hunting it In my old age watching the woods and unstanding the woods more then i ever have is more important then the animals i harvest out of it

Having my permission to hunt some very special private spots that took me a lot of effort and work to secure have been revoked over the years as the properties changed hands. Just last year right before the season, my top 3 spots all changed hands at the same time and went away. It left me feeling very challenged for about 2 days when my life long hunting addiction kicked back in and made me get off my butt to save my season. It just goes to show you that one should always be scouting to keep new spots available. We should also hunt every hunt and location as if we might never be able to return. It's not a bad idea to treat our friends the same way. Never take anything for granted. This shooting and hunting thing we get to do and with whom we get to do them are always special!

I'm 75, just going to hunt with a camera and shoot foam deer from now on.

At 80 years of age, I have not lost my desire to be "Out in the Woods" in search of wildlife. I do not have to make a kill to call it a successful day, although I have been successful in taking game with both Bow, Rifle and Shotgun. While rifle hunting in the "Big" woods of Maine, I am still able to track Deer for MANY miles to make a kill, however the DIFFICULT part comes when it's time to drag them back to the vehicle or a place where I can pick them up AFTER I get my vehicle. LOL. ( It helps when you are hunting with someone about 25 year old when the dragging part come in. LOL ) Just being able to be "out in the woods" is rewards enough. I hope everyone is "successful" whether they make a kill or not.

Give up hunting, NEVER.

However, I have gotten to the point that I don't feel that I have to kill something every time I go out.

For you that have give up on hunting, I know a couple kids that would welcome equipment!

My dads 83, and he tells me "son I sure wish I took more time to hunt and fish"> I hope i make it to 83+ and I do not want to say that. to my children.jeff

I still hunt but I really have a hard time killing any animal anymore. I still like venison but it's almost physically impossible for me to get a large deer out of the woods. I have to hunt close where I can drive my Jeep for short drags. Turkey hunting and chasing squirrels with a self bow and stone tipped arrows lets me enjoy the woods. I would like to kill one more deer with one of my self bows, after that I'll be out more for the exercise.

There are lots of things as important as hunting, and for some of us there is nothing 'sad' about it. Us old guys were, and to some extent still are from the 'deer camp' era. Camaraderie is as much deer season as is anything related to killing game. Matter of fact, when I first started deer hunting in 1958 (legal license age of 12), seeing a deer was a special event near our home, and getting one was a major event the neighbors even cheered. Deer season was the yearly reunion of friends and acquaintances to tell stories, eat lots of food and do some hunting.

Folks today tend to be spoiled since we have good deer herds, and have had them for awhile, so hunters don't know skimpy sightings or going a year without seeing a buck. I also think we have a period of time when we seem to have to kill a deer every year to show we are hunters, but that wears down as well.

Don't take this as defeatist; we still enjoy the woods and the hunt, but the need to kill an animal takes a back seat to the social aspect as you get older. And yes, I do know some guys in their 80's that still get out there and hunt to kill a deer. It's just about choices and how we personally approach the season...not wrong, just different. I'm 71, 7 months and 17 days old....but who's counting anyway. 8^).

Wow!

Theres some ole timers here ; ) (i mean that with all do respect) In my neck of the north woods there really isnt alot of the young generations interested in hunting anymore Which to be honest takes some of the enjoyment out of it for myself,,(mid 40's) When i was younger it was still a right of passage,,and some of us really enjoyed it enough to dedicate ourselves to doing it right with multiple tools As much as i try the boys dont seem to be as interested as we were Deer camp nowdays for me is Mama and myself,maybe one friend for old times sake I miss the days of packing dads station wagon and learning the good and bad from my brothers and uncles,cuz'ns etc etc Tmes change

Not giving up 59.I still got alot of hunting to do.I feel like I its now or never for any trip that's very physical.The kids are grown,the mortgage is gone, and I can take all the time I want.My deer camp days are over and I too miss that time with old friends most of whom are gone now.

At 70, the knees that served me well thru years of pole vaulting and basketball have decided to retire. Every step is painful, especially when going downhill. Dr. says to hold on "till you know it's time for replacement". I have trouble taking the garbage out, much less bow hunting. Someday....... Richard

I will be 62 in October...not old, but not a kid anymore. Started hunting small game with my brother at age 6, but didn't bow hunt until I was in my late 20s. Next to God and family, hunting and spending time in the woods is what drives me. I had both knees replaced last November. Using the walker caused some old shoulder issues to flare up and I did 6 weeks of PT on my shoulders this Spring. In early May, I could pull a 35# bow 3 times and it wasn't comfortable. I shot 60 arrows out of my 50# bow last night and am leaving for a bear hunt in Maine on Saturday morning. My drive to hunt is what caused me to push through my PT on my knees and my shoulders. First time I walked over a 1/2 mile was a trip to the woods with my Box Call wlaking stick!

I spend more time in the woods now doing habitat work than I do deer hunting. I have been blessed to have access to 75+ acres that is mine to hunt as long as I keep the access roads and old skidder trails clear so the the owners can take walks and have access to mushroom hunt. The property was logged recently and left in a mess. I cleaned up the skidder trails and planted them in clover to help prevent errosion and opened up a fallow field that a neighbor now cuts for hay. I cut the tree tops for firewood and stacked the brush for small game and quail habitat. Planted native grasses and milo and millet for the birds in the laydown/load out areas left by the loggers and I am actually seeing some quail again. The woods were stripped of almost all of the mast trees and the deer sightings for a couple of years were almost non-existent, but with the work I've done the deer are back in decent numbers. I enjoy the habitat work at least as much as I do the deer hunting. Now that I do plots I am much more in tune to the number of deer that live/frequent the property and actually kill fewer deer. Kind of strange I guess.

I've enjoyed reading this post. I'm 34 and have only begun to get started in traditional archery. Ive rifle hunted since I was 14 yrs old. I've always used a lever gun and iron sights. Recently I needed more of a challenge so I took a deer with my Ruger Blackhawk. After that a friend got me into trad archery. I have not yet shot a deer with a bow. I'm just getting started in this addictive sport. I love it so far and love the great people I've met. It's been great spending time with like minded individuals. The "kill" is not what drives me either, but the thrill of the "hunt" being out in the woods and providing for my family while enjoying God's creation.

Relatively young and in half-decent health at 51 and haven't been excited about deer hunting for several years, but I still take all of my vacation in the fall, my favorite time of year, and spend a lot of time in the woods hunting. I just don't hunt deer much, or with much enthusiasm. If one insists I kill it as I'm out doing my thing, I usually do, but I don't hold them up on a pedestal like folks tend to do. To say they're not my primary focus would be an understatement. They're just another prey/food, and nature provides food of all sorts with their own challenges and rewards. I feel I've become a more well-rounded outdoorsman, had enriched experiences, had at least as much fun, and spent MORE time in the woods all year while at the same time I've done less deer hunting. So yes, I may quit deer hunting altogether one day, but it'll be later than that when I quit bowhunting, foraging, camping, fishing, or just hanging out in the woods.

Every year I do , and every year I say on last hunt

I thought the same thing as the talk here but truth is comes a time when men do give up ya just had enough.

Have no desire to quit. May have to change the animals I hunt. Getting to the point it is harder and harder to drag a deer (I hunt public property). Hunting is actually my healing in life by putting me in the woods. It gets harder and harder to make the 1.5 hour trip one way, in the wee hours in the morning. May go from deer to squirrels, just for excuse to be out there, enjoy what others don't see, and to walk through the woods. I have not been able to do much hunting for a few years do to surgeries and taking care of my mom. I am looking forward to being able someday to go back to my healing place. Once my mom has decided her time here is done and goes to be with those who have gone ahead of her. DANNY

Only if I become physically unable, or die.

CWD has made me consider it. All of my archery interest was driven by Whitetail hunting.

I will hunt and fish until I die. Just being in the woods or on the water is where I love to be. I am only 68 one year, it could be my lastchance to enjoy. I fish to catch, I hunt to kill. October 1, I will be carrying my recurve. Good hunting .

I hate to read about people having to give up doing what they love, but I understand it and I know It's an inevitable fact for us all, sooner or later. I've slowed down a lot over the past several years myself,due to some health issues. I still hunt quite a bit, but I don't cover the ground that I used to and when the Good Lord blesses me with a deer or bear to eat, it generally gets boned and packed out these days versus the gut wrenching, back breaking dragging that I did for years. I know It's coming and I'm going to appreciate every minute I have in the outdoors in the meantime. Then I'm going down kicking, screaming and shooting arrows, lol.

Deer camps or going down some brier infested ravines scaring rabbits bring back my best hunting memories. Would like to make some more but harder to do right now. Gasoline money has to be thought of, time set a side, and supplies made ready. Not happening this fall.

Kept my lifetime license in Oklahoma and plan to go back but it won't be the same. My deer camp buddies, especially my very best friend, who was one time the President of the Oklahoma Longbowmen (long ago), died and public hunting lands where we used to gather and hunt in Southern and Northeastern OK are overrun now with hunters. Don't have the whole place to ourselves anymore like long ago. Hunting on a piece of farm land just ain't the same as I have done that for many years. Someone needs to be around camp to complain about my campfire coffee or to share some dog stoires. But hoping to go the next year or two so all you Okies watch out, as Arnold said "I'll be back".

I am surprised how many responses there are of those that have quit, or are have greatly reduced, their hunting efforts - I don't mean that as a positive or a negative...just surprised. For me, ALL of my archery habit revolves around the ultimate goal of hunting with that equipment. All the tinkering, all the buying & selling, trying this and trying that, tuning and then tuning again...it all revolves around the ultimate goal of taking a whitetail with that equipment.

So for my part, my answer to the original question is "no"...I've never even considered giving up hunting. I do get a lot out of hunting other than the kill. I too enjoy the social aspect of hunting with family and friends. For me - the biggest thing I get out of it in my current place in life is relaxation and rejuvenation. I love sitting in a tree for a few or more hours and watching nature do it's thing around me.

I do believe that hunting is so exciting to me because it is a short, defined season with a lot of build-up. I will fish every day and be happy, but if hunting was like that and I had that opportunity, I believe I'd like it a lot less. I really enjoy that build-up prior to the season.

Lot of good points on this thread - it's cool to see all the different perspectives on this. I fell into the category of assuming everyone that was on this site and is still active, was equally as active hunting.

Okiej, crappie in Eufaula lake are still biting. My son and I cleaned 51 crappie and 3 nice blue cat recently. Jigging deep, the surface water is 90°. Going again this week. Good fishing.

NY -

I stopped 30+ years ago.

Lost interest, because too much work for too little payback - and frankly just boring. (I was a city boy, so it wasn't like I could hunt from my back yard.) And as I got older, the thought of killing something for no good reason made less and less sense to me.

Viper out.

mountaineer, my feeling is that there is a direct relationship between the amount of time spent here and building bows, working of archery related projects, teaching others to shoot or hunt, shooting or bow hunting time. The more time here, the less participation in the actual activities...and vice versa. Could be wrong, but it stands to reason. :)

Might hunt next season for turkey. No alibis for not hunting deer/elk/pigs. Good health/fitness. Been there, done that.

I honor folks who rely on game for family meat and may rely on hunting for personal identity and friendships.

At 81 I have really slowed down. dealing with incourable cancer has taken its toll. I used to shoot every day but now I have to force my self to shoot I doubt that I will hunt this year, most of the time I just don't have the energy. I am thankful I had many good years of shooting the bow and hunting with it. Its a natural process that will happen to all of us, so get out there and enjoy every moment.

I'm 82 and in pretty good health. I've been hunting for 70 years and looking forward to hunting again this fall. I mostly hunt Whitetails and turkeys---off the ground. Need a good stool to protect my slightly Arthritic back, but hope to be "out there" again in a month here in Wisconsin. Joel

Only one thing is going to stop me. 73 and still going (fairly) strong. Leaving for ID Saturday for elk with Weitas Creek Outfitters.

Love to fish, hunt, shoot (everything)! Just love being outdoors, bow shooting, bow building (just gettin's started), in fact, only indoors for TV sports, news and sleep. Love to golf as well. And travel. Still doing it all at 70, feel very fortunate being in good enough health (knock wood) to participate in all of the above! I do understand, however, the part about not having to kill to enjoy the hunt, been that way for at least 20 years or more. But fish and venison are hard to beat, and I also love to eat! Wyatt

Give up hunting!? can't even begin to imagine that.

A man comes to know when he has killed enough to satisfy his lusts!

Yes lusts.LOL

You won't know until you reach the point of stopping.

I am not able to stop being a fisher of men though. Only thing in life that really has meaning I found for myself all else has been feed by self.LOL

At 69 I've been very successful. I'm at the point where I still want to go and will take a good shot if the opportunity exists but my desire to kill one is not what it used to be. I still enjoy going and seeing them

I just started archery and hunting 4 years ago at the early age of 60....so I knew my limitations from the beginning. My kids don't like for me to go hunting by myself (I do though sometimes). I don't care about the trophy hunts, but I do love to put venison in my freezer. I hope to hunt as long as I can. Happy hunting and be safe.

Marsha

I gave it up in my 30's but started again in my 50's I missed the woods in the fall and nothing else was pulling me out to the fields and woods, don't care if I get anything and not a diehard winter hunter but enjoy the fall.

This year will be my 53rd hunting season. I can truthfully say I enjoy hunting and cannot see ever giving it up as long as physically able. I like everything about it - from the preparation to the time in the woods. What I've grown to find less appealing, like many others, is the killing so I've become a lot more picky about what I kill. I don't mean I only hunt for big bucks, a doe is great. But I consider a lot of factors now that I used to ignore like how far I am from the car, is it uphill or downhill, am I alone or with others....

There's a lot of good things here in Southwest Florida, but hunting, at least on public land, isn't one of them. My heart has ached ever since the Federal Park Service ruined hunting access in the Big Cypress Swamp by closing all those ATV and swamp buggy trails. Now, the Bear Island Unit is just a huge, impenetrable thicket. I never owned a swamp buggy or an ATV, but I spent many happy hours walking those trails which opened up a lot of good hunting territory to me back in the day. That caused me to give up hunting for awhile. Nowdays I drive up to the Panhandle during my vacation time. Still some good public land up there, but it's a long drive for me. Sure, there are some ranches down here leased to hunt clubs, but I will never be able to come up with five grand per season to hunt them.

What I miss most is the way hunting used to be, the number of farms...the number of deer...deer camps and yes even the check stations. Most all that is GONE. It`s cliché but the phrase..."it ain`t what it used to be" is never more true.

I'm not far behind Phil, this will be my 50th season. Can't fathom the day I'd ever give it up.

I quit for about 7 years (Wisconsin) when our DNR completely fubar'd everything during the CWD panic. The treated ous state animal, whitetail deer, like a rodent...complete slaughter.

After that time, my son wanted to hunt with the old man again. Can't say no to that, eh?

So, this fall will mark my 5th year back. In that time I've killed one deer. I now hunt on my terms...if I don't feel like it, I'll rake leaves, play golf, or whatever. I also watch more than I shoot...I've killed my share.

My son picked up my old BW MAII last year, and killed a buck & a doe his first trad year. He now has a custom longbow and is my shooting partner...I'm 65...he's 29. I still enjoy shooting...a lot more than hunting in fact.

I started hunting and eating some form of critters at 5, and at 61 now, if all goes as I am praying for, I'm approximately 2/3 or maybe a bit less of the way into my hunting and fishing career. Hope my luck and good fortune holds out. Found this in my hunting area last week. Promise of future score???? :)

I'll turn 66 Wednesday. This will be my 54th deer season. I have had to scale back.... no more climbing stands, no more killing a deer 1/2 mile from the truck or atv. Not even anymore slipping into the woods an hour before daylight. I have to carry my iphone, per boss's orders. Things do change, but thank the Lord, my health is good overall and I hope to be out there opening day.

After 63 years of loving & shooting the bow ...I QUIT .... somewhat health issues, but mostly because The State of Illinois has ruined our deer herd (that I so loved too) and "The Industry" has 'changed' bow hunting into something I don't recognize anymore. I lived and grew during "The Good Old Days" ....they are gone now!

After 63 years of loving & shooting the bow ...I QUIT .... somewhat health issues, but mostly because The State of Illinois has ruined our deer herd (that I so loved too) and "The Industry" has 'changed' bow hunting into something I don't recognize anymore. I lived and grew during "The Good Old Days" ....they are gone now!

I gave up deer hunting after I shot my first deer at age 15. I hit it but never recovered it, even with extensive tracking. It made me feel so bad I never tried it again. A few years after that, for other reasons I also gave up archery. Until age 61. I started shooting again for fun and exercise, and to some extent to be prepared for self-sufficiency in case of a cataclysmic disaster. Like a 9 quake that we are over due for here in the NW. I could be cut off from civilization for months and would have to get my own food. If that happened I would hunt again, for the same reason I started when I was a kid: to be self- sufficient living in the woods. Archery seemed the best choice. Ammo can run out but you can retrieve arrows or make new ones.

I don't like killing, as some do, and I have physical disabilities that would make it painful to move or even butcher larger animals. But I love shooting and want to be prepared, either for hunting to survive or for defending against roving bands of Orcs or Zombies. You never know when they'll show up. Sometimes I think the tourists who drive around out here are Orcs or Zombies, but when I look more closely they seem like they are just annoying humans.

Where I live the blacktail deer are so plentiful and tame they almost bump into us. Same with the wild turkeys. Elk come and go seasonally and they are more wary, but it is exciting to see them. I live in an elk migration corridor where hunting is not allowed, but it is just as fun to see how close I can get as it would be to shoot one, even if I wanted to.

Many people here say they go hunting to be in Nature. I feel fortunate to live on the edge of a wilderness all the time. I feel no need to hunt. But if I were starving, I would. Meanwhile I keep practicing as much as I can and having fun shooting. My trophies are photos of my best groups. When I can't shoot sometimes I look at them and it brings a smile to my face.

Some say they go into the woods for camaraderie. I live in the woods for solitude, along with my wife, dogs and horses. I go to town to be social. And online!

There are lots of things that i do not like in today's deer hunting scene. However, when the sun is setting and I am alone hunting on a week day and no one else is crowding me, it is still the 1960s and I am still a kid with a longbow full of adventure and there is more to hunt than just deer. The rabbit and pheasant numbers are way up in our valley. Sometimes my shoot away arrows are my most valued possessions.

When I broke my back, hunting was taken away from me for years. The first year, I went bow hunting once. Walked s-l-o-w-l-y to the closest stand sight. Sat on the ground for about 45 minutes. Pain became so severe that I could not get up to walk. So, I left my bow and crawled a short distance then rested. Repeated all the way to the truck. Crawling is a very slow way to move about. It took a couple hours. Went back the next day on ATV to get my bow.

I could not bowhunt for the next 5 years. I missed it terribly! Now that I am somewhat rehabilitated, I will not give up.

I don't know. It's a big decision not to hunt. I wonder what it's like to see a nice buck in the fall and not thinking on how to kill it!

My family loves venison and turkey breast too much. I'll never be able to stop even if I wanted too. Hopefully that never happens.

Little time off work, limited funds and not much in the way of good hunting grounds close to home.

Renewed Archer, those Orcs and Zombies may just be Portlanders out for a stroll.. Anarchists! Keep Portland Weird is their motto. I know, I worked there for 14 years. I worked in the building that Tre Arrow (the Cascadia Alliance eco-terrorist that torched logging equipment) sat on the 9 inch wide ledge three stories up for 11 days to protest the Zig Zag timber sale. I lived WAYYYY AWAY, 65 miles up the Gorge to GET AWAY. I lived on the edge of the National Forest in WA, and loved it there. I commuted in 1.5 hrs each way four days a week. I had to work, 'cause the money was in the city. The elk and deer, and bear and cougar were in my yard. I hunted and fished, but liked seeing the critters and didn't HAVE to kill them. I killed enough to have in the freezer for whenever I wanted it without running out. I had a freezer full of steelhead salmon and sturgeon... yum. That was real survival to me. It was a way of life, my LIVING. You are fortunate to be in Oregon. Ya CAN live off the land.

Here is your Orc... :) They spent a lot of money and time 'hunting' him. It is interesting. I'd say we have far more to worry about with the likes of this kind of mentality in the northwest than we do with any old earthquake. I was in a big earthquake there too, 6.7 or something, and saw a huge 'wave' of earthly liquefaction rolling right toward my that shook the house violently for nearly 90 seconds. THAT was less scary than the eco-radicals that now roam the streets of Portland, protesting the government. I'd take the earthquake any day over that. Check this out if you don't believe me. Hunting may just be doomed in the northwest if guys like this ever 'take over'. http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/07/us_goes_after_wages_of_psu_off.html

The picture is: "Radical environmentalist Tre Arrow used his cell phone to speak to news media from a narrow ledge of the U.S. Forest Service building in Portland during a 2000 protest. He took over the ledge to call a halt to logging of ancient trees in Eagle Creek."

TrapperKayak, I live at the southern end of Oregon near the CA border. Almost 300 miles from Portland.

I'm not sure what radical environmentalists have to do with whether you hunt or not. Seems like your gripe might be more with PETA. People who hunt and fish have traditionally been in league with conservationists rather than against them. I think the issue is whether people who go into natural areas are respectful or not. Some are, and some are not, regardless of all other distinctions.

The Pacific NW has had about a 9.0 quake on average every 300 years for many thousands of years. The last one was in 1700. Scientists say there's a 30% chance of another one within 50 years. It's inevitable. The only question is whether I or any individual will still be alive when it happens. Or after it happens. Over 90% of all structures from the CA/OR border to Canada would be destroyed in such a quake and it would overwhelm disaster relief services for months or even years.

My bows are in a shipping container so they will survive!

Glad you had the chance to live as you did in a beautiful area.

Renewed, yeah, I wasn't really trying to make a clear connection with that group vs. hunting. Just that those guys are probably more likely to be troublesome than natural disasters. I wouldn't want to ride out a 9.0 quake though. Much bigger than the 6.7, and that was big enough. PETA won't ever stop hunting I don't think. To me, it will more likely be lack of recruitment of both hunters and others who support the right to do it. Stay safe out there. I hope to get back there again in the next year or so to hunt SW WA elk.

I haven't given up hunting, but it is going to be hard to go into the woods this fall. Have been bowhunting for close to 30 years. Hit a couple deer early on that I didn't recover. Went for a long time with recovering every animal I hit. Now have had 2 animals that I have not recovered the last two years. Thought that both hits were good at the shot (hit right where I was aiming) but got poor penetration on both. Not sure what is going on, but I have very little confidence in myself right now. Will probably go hunting this fall, but not sure what I will do if a shot opportunity presents itself. Can't stand wounding animals.

I'm 66 yrs of age and yes, I've slowed down a bit.. There are things I don't do anymore and I'll hunt as long as health will permit..

My buddy has broken his back twice, I still help him into the woods every fall..

A week ago I lost a good bowhunting friend. As several others commented "One of the best of the best". Seems too many are gone.

I still look forward to Bowhunting, still get that mid-summer fever. It hasn't been about killing for many, many years. That's not to say I won't kill one, cause I will, in a heart beat. if the situation meets my limits.. It's far more about "how" it's done. Hunting doesn't always mean "killing" anymore. That's just fine with me.

As far as wounding.. I've always considered it a serious thing to take an animals life. I am very particular about what shots I take but realize it happens.. When it does, I consider my tag filled but I don't beat myself up too hard when I see dead deer laying all over the edges of the Inter-state Highway going to waste.

chris

I worked in an office for years. The stress was almost unbearable at times. I couldn't wait to get outside at the end of the day or week. I came alive in the woods. Deer camps, hunting with buds, or even by myself in the back woodlot, didn't matter how, I just had to go hunting.

An unplanned career change now has me working in a hot factory on an assembly line evening shift. A recliner with my feet up feels better than a tree stand. Hunting, or even shooting, is just not as appealing. Oh, I still hunt, but it's not a passion like it used to be.

The exception is our annual hog hunt at Wild Things in SC. I get pretty pumped up about spending a week in those swamps chasing pigs with my bow.

A great post for encouragement to get out there. Thanks ny yankee!

At 66 health and just don't care to kill anymore. I have neuropathy in my feet and all I do is fall in our steep mountains, not good with broadheads. I do enjoy watching the arrows fly as much as ever.

I'll quit when it stops being fun or when I am no longer physically able to hunt at all (whichever comes first). As I get older, I am less concerned with killing stuff, but still enjoy hunting. That's one reason I like traditional bowhunting so much; more hunting and less killing. - John

I'll tell you what stopped me from bowhunting when I was in Washington: Big game regulations. On the west side you have to choose your weapon, and after getting walked in on, called back to by elk hunters and blowing out elk to the point of ridiculousness, and the relative shortness and lateness of the elk season (last two weeks of Sept), and earliness of deer season (way too much foliage still on the trees) I decided to bag it and hunt with the rifle for a few years. I got tired of not having venison and fell back on the rifle to fill my freezer (my one true need when it comes to hunting). I didn't give up bow shooting though, I still attended 3D shoots and belonged to Wind River Archers in Carson, WA. So archery hunting became a thing of the past for a while until I moved back here to NY. Now it is a very large piece of the puzzle again.

Never, ever, ever (god willing).... for me, there are few things in life that bring the solitude, emotional therapy, camaraderie that bow hunting brings each & every time I'm blessed to be on stand... been bow hunting for 37 years and I appreciate & enjoy it more with each season.

Oly

At 65 not as hard as I once did but still most ever chance I get, don't have to kill something every time I go out to be happy but my intentions are to. Trophies mean nothing to me but filling the freezer does and we eat a lot of venison. Miss Joanie will tell me , don't get picky until the freezer is full. I do really like the social part of bow hunting before and after the hunt with my old hunting buddies but the solitude of the hunt is the main thing I enjoy. Good thread, loved the read. Pappy

only death

At 71, I still love hunting. I also love performing and recording with my music. Our band recently reunited and are recording educational cd's for kids. We are scattered all over the country and send tracks back and forth while getting together every couple of months at our main studio to work, drink beer and eat. A bunch of old farts having fun while paying for it. Our wives shop while we record.

nothing so far

One word. ATVs. Here in CO you have to walk up dense steep remote inaccesible mountains -not so easy for older knees and hips- or hunt wilderness area where atvs are verbotten to get away from them. Even then you still hear the sumbitches down valley, an incessant stream of RRRRrrRRrRrRRRRrr all-day- long. It's disgusting. That plus pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop semi autos. That's the way it is now.

Life is too short, 99 percent of it is just showing up. Get out there while we still can.

Bob, that sucks. Didnt think they were allowed on Fed land. Used to be the semi autos were only here in the east too. Bolts out west back then (80s -90s) only. Another,bummer. Bow open at same time as gun? Or are you talkin gun season.

No, I'm talking year around here now with atvs and semi auto pistols. As for hunting, this still is bolt action country for sure.

The ONLY place you don't hear atvs or semi auto gunfire is either Co national park, or wilderness area, and believe me sound carries a long ways in the mountains. ALL national forest is now overrun with atvs. I mean everywhere. There's no getting aawy from them. They are EVERYWHERE now, legal and illegal. It is sad and it is disgusting. The entire backcountry is nothing but a noisy playground for jackasses that could care less what you think about their activities.

When I was aboy scout back in the mid 1960s the backcountry was dead quiet. My, how times have changed. RRrrRRrrrrRrR pop pop pop pop pop pop BAMBAMBAM BAMBAMBAMBAM. Effing disgusting.

no hunting for me. but still love shooting my recurve. and remembering the days past.

Yes, times are changing, unfortunately we're not!! Sad the only way out is to die. Not to be morbid, but it's true. I still hunt like it was the fifties, or early sixties!! In my own little world as things seem to be spinning way out of control where ever I look.

Bob, the ATV scourge is one of the main reason BHA was formed. It is still a big part of their focus, but maintaining federal lands and ensuring public access to those lands is the bulk of their efforts now.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of BHA haters/detractors on this very site. And that pisses me off.

What has stopped me: - 2002 broken back. - fall of 2007 I started a University Masters Thesis so no hunting that year and then winter of 2007/08 went through an unexpected/traumatic divorce. This tough combination radically changed my life and I stopped hunting and archery for nearly 10 years! - as I came back to my usual self again overtime what kept me from hunting was not enough time and other things I needed/wanted to do instead.

What has kept me going: - I eat meat. If I choose to allow another living being to die in support of this body, I feel that it is an important part of my spiritual path to be the one to take that life if given the opportunity and not at distance like with a gun. - camaraderie of my many friends who are hunters! Sharing stories, talking about equipment and getting together! - desire for traditional, now vintage, archery equipment was conditioned in me when I was a young boy and I love shooting at targets, deer, stumps, zombies and orcs!

Great thread!

Also, this is my first year back since 2006! :-)

Also, this is my first year back since 2006! :-)

Sorry, I have marginal reading comprehension. After re reading these posts yet again, bow season, mz season, rifle seasons, makes no difference. Even my son, who just left today with his wife and daughter for season opener, is towing two of the sumbitches. A HUGE Polaris Mom and daughter ride plus a little 300 Honda. All his hunting buddies have them as well.

I guarantee you highway 24 has a parade of atvs heading west up into the mountains as I type this. I can't tell you how much I hate how influx of ATVS have changed the general perception the national forest is merely a playground, and not the resource it was intended to be.

Dammit, peace and quiet on federal land is dang near non existant now except in really remote areas where it is essential to walk in. Even camp grounds now, noisy, loaded with trailers rigs and generators. Quiet tent camp is a thing of the past in most campgrounds. Sheeesh! It's our society. It has changed, and I'm not getting any younger. Waaaah! lol

Jason D, my,empathies for all your misfortune. I cant even imagine. But glad you got past it and now you're back. This sport will help you heal. Good gunting! To everyone!

It seems the older I get, the less willing I am to put up with a lot of hassle. And the older we are, the more complicated life gets. That, combined with lack of access to quality hunting areas, competition from others, long wait periods to draw tags, short seasons, etc., all increase the hassle factor. Sometimes I really have to force myself to make the effort.

I am finally starting to understand what issues caused my own dad to start losing interest in hunting as he got older. What kept him going was me pestering him to take me or go along with me when I started driving.

Never thought I could lose interest in hunting, coming from a young boy so excited I couldn't sleep the night before opening day. But I sense that time may be looming on the horizon.

Since I'm in whine mode, another thing, and entirely off topic. Campgrounds near Colorado Springs have lots of down dead pine trees from fires in the last decade. Dry pine is a snap to cut with a bow saw. But guess what? A bow saw is work. Now, near these quick weekend getaway national forest campgrounds, what else do you hear besides atvs, motorcycles, generators, and semi auto gunfire? Chainsaws. Yup, the little bit of firewood needed for a weekend camping trip, needs cut with a chainsaw. A bow saw? That's kinda like work. Instead of wind blowing through pines, this is what you hear. RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, POP POP POP POP POP, BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM, RRrrRrRrRrrrrRRRRRRRRRR, and until 10 at night, rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

And look across the campground, kids and adults sitting in the chair looking at their phones, instead of playing horseshoes or tossing the ball around. But at least that isn't noisy, thank God. :/

Oh, and I forgot, now I have also heard 'rave' noise. The same tune, thumping through the forest, for a couple hours straight. bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump. Stop for twenty seconds and start right back up. bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump. Ad nauseum. I'm not kidding. WWAAAAAaaaahhhhhhh!!!! lol

I go to the woods to get away for tht noise.jeff

I was up at our local 3d range on National Forest (operated under a special use permit) a few weeks ago when I heard some noise like what Bob described approaching. As the racket got closer I could tell it was another shooter playing his iTune device very loudly. He finally shut it off before he got to me.

When I thanked him for shutting it off he asked if that "music" bothered me.

Yes, I told him, up here it does!

Dang you guys are depressing me.

You guys sound like broken arses,you need to man up.Shure we lose friends at our age and maybe we've killed to many animals and we face our own demise,its just part of the i,am getting old trip. Animals are wonderfull creatures but at the end of the day its thru them i live, although vegeterians wish it wernt so. Its really the humans we need to start killing??.

Isn't that the truth! No wonder young guys don't want to hang around here!

I switched back to the compound to keep from getting to bored of it. God Bless

I was referring to Babysaphs comment about the depressing topic. Just for the record.

Complex issue; I lost my wife to cancer, tore up a shoulder, got heart stints, other surgerys, broke my back dragging a deer last year (shouldn't have snatched it when it hung up). Back surgery was just OK, really limited what I can do, I don't know about dragging a deer, lots of foot neuropathy. I will probably stay out of trees this year.

Then there is target panic, I shoot foam well at time other times TP takes over, same on deer.

Life changes, things that you don't expect, my hats off to all you guys that are still enthusiastic about bow hunting.

I plan to bowhunt out of ground blinds but don't know if I will drop the string.

My flintlock keeps the freezer full and I love deer meat.

I can say I have lost interest when it is 95 degrees in August but there is something about a cool, crisp day that makes me want to go to the woods. It's not so much for hunting but to enjoy Gods masterpiece.

I forgot to mention I will be 70 in a couple of months, time takes a toll on us older guys.

well it says give up hunting,, just cause I go hunting does not mean I get anything,, or need to really,, but if I am out there"hunting",, then some peace of mind comes from that,, I dont need to go far or stay long,, if health issues prohibit,, but getting out there is good for the soul I think,, but thats just me,,,

are you out of your mind,,,, never would I quit hunting, if I could not hunt, why the heck would I need to be here..... got my priority ,,,,,you got yours

I'm real close to 76 & starting my 61st year in archery/bowhunting. I still shoot 3-D, field & target with my Longbow & my compound + hunt with both. My pack is lighter, the walk to my stand is closer & I no longer shoot Does or small Bucks. In fact, I set a personal goal for my next whitetail several years ago & have been eating the tag for several seasons. I "still" love being out there & having encounters with deer that have no idea I am around. I took 2 stands down this season & replaced one in a new location & actually walked a lot of ground scouting. I like to actually "see" the deer sign for myself.. I take lots of photos & video of the unsuspecting. I now share the woods & tournaments with 2 of my adult kids & 5 G-kids. They have made archery "more" enjoyable. I have managed a wide variety of Biggame & many adventures for sure. I have been & am still being blessed to enjoy an awesome sport.

I hope to be the same as ahunter55. Why give up something that you love. For me it's a passion, just walking in the woods with my bow. It's my church

The Wensels said it much better than I ever could. " When we can no longer draw bows, when sinew has shrunk and bone gone brittle, we will hunt in our dreams. Because hunting is part of our souls. " I hope I am so lucky.

Everyone has said it in different ways, when we get older our values change, we still like to hunt, shoot a bow, shoot our flintlocks, but the body and mind start to slow down a little because we have done it for so many years and realize that we deserve to mellow out a little and take what we have left and study what was overlooked in our past.

We have a tendency to appreciate what we have and what we lost over the years, it is not sad, just part of what everyone will go through if they live long enough.

Don't take this thread as a negative, everyone has their own reasons and we all have had the experience, now we choose to look at it in another way, I still like to go bow fishing, but most of the spots are fished out like everything else.

Does the 'cold dead fingers' phrase conjure up an image of my ever giving up hunting? No matter what weapon I choose, it will lead me to the woods and fields where I am 'home'. Until I really DO go 'Home'.

I haven't hunted in years. Best friend died, kind of gave up hunting and golf too and I really enjoyed that. My friend and I hunted together for years out of a cabin he built on some land he owned. He also built a fish hatchery for a French fella that used to fish farm in France. We hunted that property for years too and fished the creek that fed the hatchery.

Just kind of getting back into shooting a bow and enjoy stump shooting in the spring and fall a bit. Now though being retired full time my wife and I own a 5th wheel Cedar Creek trailer anchored in place at Hughes Marina in Williamson NY. We also own a cottage right next door at Hollands Cove. Along with those we have a Penn Yan Avenger we salmon fish out of. So frankly that takes up most of my time plying Lake Ontario for the mighty King. keepem sharp

When my first wife died almost 40 years ago I lost all interest in hunting and fishing...grief will do that to you in the short run.....not much was enjoyable for many months, and then everything started coming back together again. You never stop grieving over those you have loved and lost, but it certainly gets better with time.

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