I am looking at buying a 17" metal ILF riser. There are many options available, but I have narrowed it down to the new Hoyt Satori and the Morrison Phoenix. They are both the same price.

I really like the Hoyt and it has everything I'm looking for (Elevated rest holes and radiused shelf, one piece design, no goofy 'cutouts').

However, the Morrison caught my attention because it also has quiver/AMO holes and the addition of stainless steel threaded inserts and screws. Plus I get a choice of Jager grips. It seems I am getting more for my money.

However, I am having trouble finding reviews on it.

I would appreciate feedback on the risers and whether the mentioned extras on the Morrison are worthwhile and do indeed make for a better product.

Thank you!

Can you buy a Morrison anymore?

Yes? I assume. There is a website. I emailed, but the reply is taking some time...?

I've got two 21" Satori risers; I really like them. I've had Morrison's too; very nice. You can't go wrong with either, but no AMO holes in the 17" Satori would be a deal breaker for me. I'd get the Morrison or a Titan II.

Now if we're talking 19" or 21", the Satori would get my vote.

I really like the grip on the hoyt. My 2 cents

I have no experience with morrison but i sure like my 19 in satori. Got a 21 in orderd also.

I have a Morrison and love it. No experience with the Satori but Hoyt has been around a looooong time, know a thing or two about bow-making.

Have you tried calling the Morrisons?

It has more to do with how the riser feels to you than anything else. The performance is in the limbs unless you are going to be competing above an intermediate level.

Both good. Hoyt is cast. Rooty

I have a 17" Hoyt Satori riser and combined with Black Max 2.0 limbs is a great shooting bow.

I have a 21" satori with uukha limbs. Hoyt gets my vote.

Love my 21" Satori, but if you're dead set on 17" the lack of AMO inserts could be a deal breaker as said before. You'll be tied to Hoyt quivers (as far as bow mounted) and you'll never have a sight. If you're cool with that...

You planning on shooting off the shelf?

Jerry

I received my Morrison Phoenix heavy about three months ago. Prior to it I was shooting a black bear I had warfed. The Morrison is EVERYTHING I hoped for. Perfect workmanship, and I picked the color. Awesome, absolutely no complaints.

"Both good. Hoyt is cast." Rooty

Curious... what do you mean by, "Hoyt is cast?"

Morrison

Jim Casto, Satori is cast aluminum. Morrison is machined from billet.

Hoyt does NOT make any cast risers and hasn't for several years. All their current recurve risers are machined from solid billets.

Awesome.

In the fly Fishing industry where I work, it is common these days to do "cast and machined" reels. They cast rough then machine the cast parts to clean them up and add venting and so forth. I own a Satori and thought it was this type of production. It's a pleasant surprise that it's billet...

Jerry

Chinese billets.

"Chinese billets."

I don't know about that one, but the billet is machined in house.

To my knowledge the only cast risers Hoyt has made in the past decade (or more) are a couple compound devices; the MT Sport and MagneTec, and even those were die cast, not poured.

Heck, even the cheapo Excel is machined from a single billet.

Tradtech has first rate metal risers which are fully adjustable. Lancaster Archery sells Tradtech on its web site.

I like the looks of the Satori, but have never handled one. I do have two Morrison ILF risers and love them. Impeccable workmanship and exceptional bower to deal with. I would go for the Morrison, but I really think the Satori would fill your needs as well. I REALLY don't think you could go wrong with either. Cheers!

Jim you know more than me on risers. I was told that buy a bowyer. I thought the regular excel was cast and the pro excel was billet etc. My comments are hear say. Rooty

Its really hard to beat a trade tech titan...I've owned several different risers Morrison , Hoyt, sky .....but I like the tradtech titan the best.....

You get a choice of grips and color with the Morrison, plus it has the AMO holes already drilled and tapped. Bob can also add quiver holes to his risers also....although any metal riser can be drilled and tapped for AMO holes or a quiver with a little common sense. I would choose Morrison because I like and support Bob's products.

You can make your own quiver attachments with a 3/16 x 10/24 tap, and a 5/32 drill bit.

I think those cut out broadhead hole on a TradTech Titan look cheesey. And I'm from WI where cheese is not lonely a food, it's a hat!!!

Bowmania

Chinese billet was a poor joke. Many have bashed Hoyt for some of there products coming from China, very little.

I have a Morrison riser and was able to handle and shoot many different risers at Denton Hill. Most including the Satori, but to a lesser extent, did feel slightly bulky compared to my Morrison.

We seem to be enamored with looks more than anything nowadays. Silliness like that can keep you from trying a bow that may be the best fit you ever had. I think I've probably owned some 'cheesey' looking shooters over the years, but then I ain't the purtiest block of cheese in the cooler either. )

Wow! What a lot of feedback! It is great to hear there seems to be no wrong choice. I really wish I could see these risers in person, because I agree feel is a large part of it.

Looks aside, I was really curious about the additional stainless steel inserts in the Morrison, but I guess this is neither here nor there.

Bowmania: I'm from MS and have a few of those hats myself!

What's the difference and why does it matter? It's just a bow handle.

I've only had two brands of store bought 17" metal risers. A Morrison gen.2 I should have kept; and two DAS risers which I still have. Never tried any others because I like what I have.

The difference is confidence.

The Morrisons look awfully nicely made. Aren't the satories painted. Near 500 is really a lot to get some paint. Paint has advantages, but just seems cheap to me. Hoyt sure has a lot of credibility in their bows, but not so much this segment, there isn't any special feeling there for me.

http://alternativess.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.cgi/0035411.9.7573967872216948700/GILG5L

They have a variety of different 19 inch risers. You can usually find online reviews of them, or youtube reviews.

Well you could give me those two different risers and I couldn't tell which was which. So which should I have more confidence in? The Satori or the Morrison?

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