From: Zebow
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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I think I may be putting my nock points on too tight. I have had the serving on two of my bows kind of separate. I shoot 3 under and now the nock point and serving both move up after shooting. Both strings are 18 strand and I believe I am using med nock points. Is this the problem and how does a tight brass nock cause this?
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From: shatto54
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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Can't tell with out seeing, but if the serving is coming loose and moving up the string, it could be wound backwards. When you draw, your fingers will work the serving tight or loose depending on which way it's wound. Just my 2 cents. Good luck
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From: hawkeye in PA
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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Sounds like the serving wasn't served under enough tension. The serving can also be served with to much tension and yes the nocking point can be squeezed to tight. To a degree the strands shift when the bow is drawn due the angle change. Also check your nocks one might hang a sharp edge in it. And I agree with the serving direction. Not much of a answer for you, it's kind of a feel and experience lesson.
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From: Arra chucker
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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I have always had trouble with the brass nocking points digging in the serving ,I changed to tied on nock points and stopped having any issues with my serving.....
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From: Zebow
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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Thanks for the info. I think I'll learn to tie my nocks for now on.
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From: rick allison
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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Agree with tied on points. Lots of tutorials available on You Tube, take a look.
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From: Brian waters
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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I prefer a 1/4" masking tape for a nock point. Doesnt move unless i remove it. Its white for faster nocking reference, and dont mess strings up.
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From: Viper
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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Z -
There's nothing wrong with a crimp on nocking point, and if the serving is moving, the type of nocking point isn't going to help.
Sounds more like a serving problem. Might want to learn how to serve your own. 18 strands doesn't really mean anything without knowing the type of material.
Viper out.
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From: N. Y. Yankee
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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Agree with Viper. Ive used many brass nocking points and never ruined a string, well, did once but not the brass fault, I was stupid. That being said, I am now transitioning to tie-on. I just like it better that way. Everyone is different.
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From: jk
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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Not all brass points are equal. There are several sizes (amazing) and I've seem some with very thin brass that's got sharper edges.
I use .021 Dacron serving, which is more prone to abrasion than other serving ...but doesn't seem to wear at points, brass or string, nearly as much as from arrow nocks.
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From: DarrinG
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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And make sure you're using the right sized brass nock point for the size of your string. If you're crimping a brass nock point with a black liner on to a larger diameter string (such as a 18 strand), its too small and yep, you're gonna havta squeeze the crap out of it to get it snug and tight. They are made in different sizes. Ive never had any problem with a brass nocking point if the right size is used and the string is served properly.
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From: Pvt Smuckateli
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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Listen to Viper, it is most likely the serving. Most folks here would say that I wrap my serving too tight; most don't shoot my bows either...
I have made plenty of strings without a serving tool, you can successfully serve a string by hand by reusing the existing serving that is on your string. Now if you make multiple strings, it only makes sense to use a dedicated serving tool.
If you use something other than a crimp on nock, I highly recommend that you make sure your tied-on nock set is made from a string with a larger diameter than what your serving material is made from.
To experiment with, you could always use a length of mono serving material. Stren and Berkley make great products for this, in a wide variety of diameters; look in the fishing section at WalMart.
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From: Longcruise
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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I've had the crimp ons damage a serving and also the tab.
When it's a monofilament served it's quite dramatic.:-)
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From: strshotx
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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I prefer to tie-on my nocking points,I've been tying them on since I started shooting traditional over 20 years ago and tie on two points,one above and one below.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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Viper has it right. Look for the proper cause, and it's not the crimp-on nockset. Good serving under good tension will not move.
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From: 2 bears
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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Brass nocking points have many fans to defend them. Regardless they have been known to cause eye damage and damage strings. Granted it is usually user error,wrong size nock,crimped too tight or moved too many times. It a perfect world they are fine and you don't need seat belts either. In the real world tie on nocks eliminate the danger. As Bryan said 1/4" wide tape works very well. I had always used it until I found the right spot, noticed it was still on and working fine after hundreds of shots. I replace them with tie on's when I get around to it.Just my 2ยข worth. >>>----> Ken
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From: GLF
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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If brass nocks were a problem something else would have replaced then 40 years ago. I've used em since I knew of them probably 40 or 50 years ago without injury to me, the string ,or my tab n gloves.
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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I used the brass ones for years. Only issue I had was with monofilament serving. I do recall having slippage issues because the nock set pliers did not crimp good enough. So I "set" my nock sets with a pair of pliers. As for sharp I had a small single cut file in my "stuff" for filing down sharpe edges.
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From: Lost arrow
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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I watched Rick Barbee's video on tying on nock points. I use .021 Halo . Thanks Rick.
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From: camodave
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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And I still prefer tie-on nock points.
DDave
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From: jk
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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Anything better than Cartel nock pliars?
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From: Viper
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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Guys -
Re crimp-ons: You can't blame the tool if it's used improperly. Yes, you need a GOOD pair of nocking pliers, and you have to use the right size nock for the string. And I've probably reused some more than I should have.
Lost -
If ya want to have fun, try a shrink-on nock over monofilament...
Viper out.
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From: Viper
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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jk -
The Cartel is OK, but a little small in the hand. I wish I knew who made the one I use. It was about $10, 20 years ago, and I haven't been able to find another one. Shudda bought more of them...
Basically you want a pair that will encompass the entire nock (some have multiple holes) and with jaws that are wider (like 2x wider) than the nock. Beyond that, it's just doing an even crimp.
I usually do a light crimp to keep the nock in place and then bear down a little harder and make sure the edges are even after the marker (usually the arrow or bow square) is removed. It takes longer to type than to do.
Viper out.
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From: fdp
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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The serving was loose, that's why the nock point separated it. A tie on nock point would have done the same thing when you pulled it tight.
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From: Bud B.
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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Tied on nock points are the ticket. Easy peasy and easily removed when needed. Brass nocks are a pain to remove.
To each his/her own, but try the tied on and then you decide for yourself. You can adjust a tied on nock for tune.
I use Ryan's method and have never had a problem. See his video in this link:
https://youtu.be/jgk0y4WFRK0
Your serving needs to be wrapped properly and securely first and foremost.
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From: Mpdh
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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I use both kinds, but I'm always afraid the tie ons will move. When I get them adjusted, I always glue them in place. MP
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From: David McLendon
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Date: 11-Aug-17 |
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I tie mine, it's just a little less on my string. Owning your own Hooter Shooter you can learn a lot on rainy days indoors about the differences little changes make. Many are small but consistently measurable, some matter and some don't.
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