Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Ok: who still uses the Howard hill broad

Messages posted to thread:
Justin 07-Aug-17
JimPic 07-Aug-17
SHOOTALOT 07-Aug-17
Justin 08-Aug-17
rusty 08-Aug-17
GLF 08-Aug-17
dean 08-Aug-17
Jim 08-Aug-17
Redheadtwo 08-Aug-17
George D. Stout 08-Aug-17
BobG 08-Aug-17
Stealth2 08-Aug-17
Odie-wan 10-Aug-17
SuperK 10-Aug-17
dean 11-Aug-17
dean 11-Aug-17
dean 11-Aug-17
SuperK 11-Aug-17
Monte 11-Aug-17
From: Justin
Date: 07-Aug-17




Bout the best flying head out there for me. Who uses them for hunting deer??

Justin

From: JimPic
Date: 07-Aug-17




I use them on a few bow/arrow setups. You're right...they do fly great

From: SHOOTALOT Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 07-Aug-17




I have always had good luck on deer with that style of broadhead. They fly great and have a very long cutting edge.

From: Justin
Date: 08-Aug-17




Wish more people admitted to using them. I like them a lot.

Justin

From: rusty
Date: 08-Aug-17




I use both weight hill broadheads along with hunters head, I can't tell difference between the two, both great

From: GLF
Date: 08-Aug-17




If the bow or arrows are tuned right all broadheads fly great. I tried em and they are good heads but i still stuck with Ace heads.

From: dean
Date: 08-Aug-17




It is possible to get most any broadhead to fly good. When one is talking about relatively close shots and smooth air, things work as planned. However, nothing is ever perfect, add a hard swirling gust situation and arrows will react according to the environment they are suspended in. A couple of springs back on a warm dry spell, we had lots of big whirl winds one day. One of those big dirt tornadoes came close by us. I had my turkey broadheads with me and one Hill. Shooting them through the whirlwind was very interesting. Hill didn't like wide solid heads because of how they react in the wind. Of course, Hill did testing and was prone to shoot in situations that the average deer hunter these days will not. My deer kills are about 60% Hills, with the rest between Hunter's Heads and Grizzlies.

From: Jim Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Aug-17




2X what GLF said, but I'll stick with my Zwickey Broadheads.

From: Redheadtwo
Date: 08-Aug-17




I'll admit...I still use HH heads most of the time.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Aug-17




Flight is about tuning. And yes...I have shot wider heads in about any condition outside including side winds, and even head winds. At hunting ranges I never say any wavering. Matter of fact I regularly shoot in side winds right here in the side yard, and up to sixty yards. I will say they are nice to get out of a back quiver, and that is another reason Hill favored them.

From: BobG
Date: 08-Aug-17




I bought some to try but was never able to get them shaving sharp. I don't blame the head Ijust never found the right technique . BobG

From: Stealth2 Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 08-Aug-17




I've always shot Zwickeys and I have some Schulz Hunter heads that I still use. I tried the Hill broadheads back in the early 90's. They flew great but were tough to sharpen to my specs due to the high ferrule. A very tough head though.

From: Odie-wan
Date: 10-Aug-17




I tried to use them several years ago and they did fly well. I eventually threw them away because they were impossible to sharpen. I had a few people who know what they're doing try it too. I must have gotten a soft batch because I normally have no trouble getting blades hair-popping sharp.

From: SuperK
Date: 10-Aug-17




For those of y'all that had trouble getting them sharp, try a Rada "wheelie" on them. My main complaint with them was they usually broke at the rivet or bent when you tried to wiggle them out of a tree. Zwickeys survive a lot better in that circumstance.

From: dean
Date: 11-Aug-17




Here is the technique that even thumb clumsy friends have used to kill deer with Hill heads. Take a flat file and get them close, then take a quarter inch round file reversed and with some pressure, pull a ripped edge until a keen burred edge is pulled up. You won't want to shave any fancy parts with it, but i have seen a number of deer bleed well and go down in short order with the technique. I do a modified version of the Tom Mussato method myself. A Hill broadhead is not the same as a straight or rounded broadhead. I have never lost a deer hit with a Hill broadhead and not one of them was smooth and shaving sharp in the accepted norm of scary or scalpel sharp, what ever that really is. The above methods will pop a hairs, but it won't be a comfortable shave.

From: dean
Date: 11-Aug-17




Some years back two compound hunters from this area, if you guys read this go ahead and give us an update, were having terrible luck with Walmart mechanical tipped arrows. At a shoot they bought that they thought they would checkout, they bought 140 grain Hill heads from Lamont. They followed the directions on Craig's pamphlet for sharpening. They both, finally had clean kills and pass throughs. They thought they discovered something special, the most super deadly head ever invented. I was arranging to hunt deer on one of their relatives farms and they were getting Hill longbows and leather goods along with wood arrows. The next thing I heard after they proudly showed me their new bows and I gave them a shooting lesson, that they moved west after bigger adventures. My son was also using the 140 Hills, with a carbide wheel shapener that had multiple wheels and then cleaned up the edge with a diamond steel, he got them shaving sharp. I sharpened one of them the Mussato way and declared that I ruined his broadhead. Just to prove me wrong he shot a doe, we had doe tags back then, he declared no blood trail. Problem was he never looked because the doe went down very close to him and had a giant pool of blood where it went down. The next day I went back to help him look for the arrow, no luck finding it in the tall weeds, but for the entire three and half jumps that deer made there was blood sprayed everywhere.

From: dean
Date: 11-Aug-17

dean's embedded Photo



Oh yes one more for fun, this deer was shot with a Hill head.

From: SuperK
Date: 11-Aug-17




One thing I noticed about the deer I took with them. When I shot them, they bounded a few yards away, stopped, looked around and then trotted away. They didn't act like they had been shot. I guess it blew through them so quick they didn't feel much. Not much blood on the ground but not the best shot placement either. If my set up needed a 160 grain broadhead, I would give them another look.

From: Monte
Date: 11-Aug-17




That is an outstanding deer, Dean. And with traditional equipment, really special.





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