From: throwback
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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What do I think? I think somebody, or a whole bunch of somebody's, will make a lot of money on it.
No, It's not trad, but it could possibly aid in recovering some deer that might otherwise be lost. But like you said, on a pass through, or an arrow that doesn't and gets broken off on trees... Now if they'd come up with something like this that detached from the shaft and stayed in the animal on a pass through... I'm tempted to say that people could just learn some woodsmanship skills and not rely gimmicks, but a couple deer come to mind that gave me fits trying to find them, so I won't go there.
Not for me, but I know some people that would benefit from it on a regular basis.
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From: throwback
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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I meant to say deer and other animals above. Around here big game is deer and black bear and I forget at times that I'm on the world wide web, lol.
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From: Shorthair
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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yet another step down the trail of replacing woodsmanship, experience, and limits...with technology. I could see this tempting some to take marginal shots in very low light or at increased ranges...in hopes they could track arrow/animal for a follow-up shot later if needed. SMH
keep em sharp,
ron herman
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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I would need that on everything. Rooty
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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Forget hunting, I would use it to find my "MIA" arrows at 3D shoots.
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From: babysaph
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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Id rather lose an arrow
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From: Bob Rowlands
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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Maybe one of two or three animals are lost each year? If somebody invented a gimmick that allowed tracking the animal, and a percentage of those that otherwise would be lost, get found, what exactly is the problem with that? If it trad or not bfd. It's totally on the guy afield to be a woodsman. The dude that has a ton of chops likely lost animal. Happens ALL the time.
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From: Babysaph
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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They did invent something to find an animal. A tracking dog. I jus think we take things too far but hey to each his own. Heck I have a friend that shoots a compound.
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From: mgerard
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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Does it come with a drone to enhance the signal if you don't have signal at ground level? Shoot better, you won't lose arrows or game. ;.0
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From: bigdog21
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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heck i haven't even tried lighted nocks. still shooting old cheap wood if i loose a arrow its fine if i do lose a deer it will not go to waist mother nature and her animals will use it all. to much technology for me. this is why i shoot and hunt with stick and string. Keep it simple. if i would half to use good technology. in fear of losing arrows are game. it would be 308 cheaper and simple.
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From: BEAUXHUNTER
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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It should sell well with the HECS and ozoneics "hunters" out there .
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From: moleman 1
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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Wont be long and there will be no reason to leave the house, we can just hunt from the comfort of our recliners. As of now we can track games every move from our computers, we can scout with drones, and now find them after the shot with nothing more than an app.......where does it end? The roots of tradition are slowly drying up and shriveling away due to technology. Tradition: the handing down of statements, beliefs, legends, customs, information, etc., from generation to generation, especially by word of mouth or by practice: Where does technology fit into this definition?
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From: RymanCat
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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Shouldn't even discuss something like this. Days of MT. Men went, now days of woodsman-ship is long gone as well.
All that's left is BS and fake news.
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From: JusPassin
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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Always amazed at what comes out next.
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From: Bowdoc
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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I think a string tracker is ok.In our bear camp I have seen several bears recovered using them that otherwise may not have been recovered do to very thick undergrowth bd
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From: Tom McCool
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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Seems like something a person who enjoys traditional archery and electronic stuff too would have fun with. Not worth messing with otherwise or it's just something else to fuss with. I too often just forget my thermos.
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From: Coyote
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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Have you ever noticed how there are so many things these days that are taking the person out of the activity??? And not just in bowhunting. It's everywhere. Now it's coming to vehicles. "Just think. You don't even have to drive your car anymore. Isn't it wonderful!!!"
There's an old short story called "The Machine Stops" We're nearly there. And I for one don't look forward to it.
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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Another take, if we keep posting on the various sites about losing game animals and asking for forgiveness these types of gizmos will be law.
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From: hookman
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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I think they need them on most of the hunting shows. I see so many bad shots and then they claim it was perfect in the boiler room. I can see better than that.
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From: 3D Archery
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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I think it is awesome. Perfect for shooting a 3D Course, lost plenty of arrows that burrowed, bounced off, or we just plain couldn't see them.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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For those of us who are old enough to know what was going on back in the 50's and 60's, this kind of stuff isn't all that new. And if you think for a second that those old archers weren't looking for advancements you are very much wrong. That is exactly why the compound bow pretty much took over archery in the mid 70's. It wasn't rejected, nor was other advancements of the time...they were looked at and decided yea or nay by the archers themselves. What wasn't popular simply went away from lack of sales/interest.
The same applies today although the toys of all sportsmen have become more technical. Most of our ideas about the archery past are simply romantic notions. Nothing wrong with that, but it's always good to know what actually was happening at the time.
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From: JamesV
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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I have always paddled my boat and the other guy can do the same.
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From: Rik Davis
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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I really hope, as hunters, we don't need more junk in the woods!
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From: Jim
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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It's all about money in Indiana.
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From: StikBow
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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Altruism? no money rules here. Uber or left will take guys that need it to their stands. :)
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From: PECO
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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NO.
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From: Bloodtrailin
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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I would hate recovering an otherwise lost deer or even worse a carbon arrow. Yeah way too much technology for me I'll stick with the good ole string and stick
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From: David McLendon
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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No need to spend more money to find my arrow passed through and stuck in the ground where it ends up 90% of the time anyway.
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From: Sawtooth (Original)
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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I'm against it. How much is too much? We are already there IMO.
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From: Flyfish
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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"What do I think? I think somebody, or a whole bunch of somebody's, will make a lot of money on it."
X2
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From: JusPassin
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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George is so right. Everybody was looking for the latest greatest wiz-bang sight that would ensure he could never miss.
How about the pendulum sight that moved your pin when you aimed down under your tree stand?
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From: PEARL DRUMS
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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I can see it being very handy is situations I'll never be in myself. Like anything outside of farm whitetails, which is what most of you have your brains tuned in to. I'm sure a few more arrows get left in critters like African game, buffalo, lions, grizzlies, moose and maybe even red stag. If I left an arrow in a lion or African buffalo, Id love to know just where it is before I tear of into the bush after it. Open minds will take you guys a LONG ways. We don't all hunt 40 acre whitetails. Is it a money maker? Sure is, or the inventor wouldn't do it. And don't even get me started on this "latest and greatest" endless bashing I read. Meanwhile, anybody tried those aluminum clad carbon micro arrows? They fly great from my all carbon "trad" bow. Come on fellers!
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From: Amicus
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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If it helps me find an animal or a an arrow I would be okay with it. To pricy for me, though.
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From: Phil Magistro
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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I have no interest in using these nocks but I cannot understand why anyone would be opposed to it. If the arrow passes through it helps find the arrow which may show signs of where the animal was hit. If the arrow doesn't pass through it may aid in finding the animal. Woodsmanship is an admirable quality and is missing a lot these days but what could be the harm in someone finding an animal they may otherwise lose? This isn't a shortcut, it's an aid that some folks likely need.
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From: BuzAL
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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Can I tape it to my TV remote?
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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The best way to make things go away, is simply to not buy them. Lots of gadgets have come and gone that were a "good idea" of someone at the time. Supply needs a demand, without it there is no need for the item. I seriously doubt there will be much of a market for such things, but maybe enough to keep them afloat for a while. Seems folks today are gadget addicted so I suppose someone will want them. My personal opinion is it's just an unnecessary item that I wouldn't waste my money on. Your mileage may vary.
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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I don't see anyone "making alot of money on it".Doesn't seem practical just a novel use of Bluetooth.
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From: Rick Barbee
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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Anything that will help to recover a shot animal is OK in my book. Even if they only help to recover an arrow isn't a bad thing.
They are no less trad than plastic arrow wraps.
Rick
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From: BEAUXHUNTER
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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Many states ban the use of electronic communication in the taking of game . The argument could be made that it is only being used in the recovery of game , however the recovery of game is part of the taking . Unrecovered game does not require a tag because it is not considered as taken . You may want to check with your local wardens since blue tooth is a form of communication or just hide you nock after recovery ,if you do not care about the law
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From: GLF
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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Most states have laws against electronics used in bowhunting even tho the numbers are dropping theres still a few that won't allow even lighter nocks. Personally I hope it stays that way. In the quest to reinvent the rifle we got compounds. In another 20 years we'll have guys just trying to get back to where we are now. Hopefully states will give incentive to stay primitive like Colorado's attempt at stopping inline ml's.
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From: David McLendon
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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Probably heavy enough to stiffen up a slightly weak spined arrow.
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From: JusPassin
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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"if you do not care about the law"
Another sad state of affairs huh? But remember, when the public feels disenfranchised from making the laws, they will not follow the laws. Simple fact.
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From: GLF
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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In the 1980's a guy tried to sell my shop traceable electronic inserts Hopefully this will go the same way.
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From: Bob
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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I hunt with my selfbows, cedar arrows, fast flight string, and plastic nocks. I don't see it as too much of a stretch to use those nocks, and can think of a few situations it would have been helpful. I don't have a problem with them.
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From: BEAUXHUNTER
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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Just passin disregard of the laws against electronic communication is rampant on many of the club I have been a member of .Texting location of game to another Hunter is illegal I'm Georgia yet many Hunter do it on a regular basis . Baiting of deer is legal in the southern zone and illegal I the northern zone . Many hunters that hunt the northern zone bait " because the deer do not know what zone they are in " therefore they feel it is ok . I do not know why it is legal in the south and not the north , but it is the law so I follow it . But then I do not use bait when I hunt the southern zone as I am to lazy to make the extra trips into the woods to place the bait.
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From: BEAUXHUNTER
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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Just to be clear I am not for nor against the use of such devices ,only pointing out that they may get you into trouble in some states, so check to be sure you are within the limits of the law
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From: badger
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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It would be great to practice flight shooting, very often I don't have access to clear fields or dry lake beds with no vegetation. With this device I could practice in heavy vegetation.
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From: Squirrel Hunter
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Date: 26-Jul-17 |
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Philosophically, I'm against it. Practically, I don't think it will have much effect for hunting, as it has an advertised range of 100 yards (Bluetooth 5?) and probably less in dense vegetation.
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From: WhitetailHtr
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Date: 30-Jul-17 |
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This thread is a joke, right?! Where does it end? And it's always amusing how a person chooses to rationalize the use of another gimmick to act as a crutch in the hunting field.
Target, flight, 3D - have at it. In the woods and esp. with trad equipment - no way.
Easy, easier, easiest. That's where the train is heading.
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From: George Tsoukalas
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Date: 30-Jul-17 |
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I hunt with self bows, self-nocked wild rose arrows and trade points. Jawge
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