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Rookie mistake?

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Catsailor 17-Jun-17
Rotten: 17-Jun-17
Linecutter 17-Jun-17
George D. Stout 17-Jun-17
jolathe 17-Jun-17
BATMAN 17-Jun-17
Bender 17-Jun-17
Mpdh 17-Jun-17
aromakr 17-Jun-17
Catsailor 17-Jun-17
Longcruise 17-Jun-17
Osr144 10-Jul-17
BigOzzie 10-Jul-17
JustSomeDude 11-Jul-17
CD 11-Jul-17
Catsailor 11-Jul-17
gluetrap 11-Jul-17
RymanCat 11-Jul-17
Orion 11-Jul-17
N. Y. Yankee 11-Jul-17
stykman 11-Jul-17
Red Beastmaster 11-Jul-17
Tomas 12-Jul-17
From: Catsailor
Date: 17-Jun-17




I've been shooting trad gear for about ten years now. That probably makes me a rookie by comparison. Here's my dilemma: I put a two piece strap on quiver on my longbow that I hunt with. I keep the quiver loaded with my hunting arrows and practice with this configuration. The reason is obvious. The arrows are cedar by the way. So I practice, practice, practice with other arrows. Later in time I took out one of my hunting arrows from the bow quiver. It took a set. An obvious curve from the constant pressure applied to the arrow. I pulled the other arrows and checked them. They all had taken a set that needed to be straightened. I got rid of that quiver and bought another Great Northern quiver which does not effect my arrows. I fiddled with the other quiver paying attention to how the arrows sit in the rubber holders. I could not get the quiver mounted in a way that did not put tension on the arrows.

From: Rotten:
Date: 17-Jun-17




Practice with the same arrow your going to hunt with. When it's time to hunt, take the ones out that took the set, and swap them out for straight ones. Keep the bent ones for the off season to put back in your quiver.

From: Linecutter
Date: 17-Jun-17




In "my" opinion what you should have done was keep the old quiver. So you found out by leaving wood arrows in it for a "long" period of time the warped. I am guessing you tried to straighten them. So at the end of hunting season you take your arrows with the broadheads out of the quiver and just replace them with field point arrows (it is gong to be the same weight), and put your hunting arrows in a box for the next season. The old quiver you might have just gotten a new piece of foam for the quiver head and tried for better alignment from the grippers to the foam with the broadheads inserted, so your shafts aren't under as much flex. DANNY

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 17-Jun-17




Never even considered that, so we are apparently both rookies. That would be irritating.

From: jolathe
Date: 17-Jun-17




Maybe rotating each arrow in the quiver a little, say a quarter turn, each time you pick up the bow to shoot would keep them straighter?

From: BATMAN
Date: 17-Jun-17




Maybe? Best Idea would be remove all the arrows after You are through practicing?? I'm sure that it's a hassle but better that You have straight arrows than warped ones. Anybody got a solution about keeping arrows straight without all the hassle?? Just askin'

From: Bender
Date: 17-Jun-17




Ditch the bow quiver. Simplest solution.

From: Mpdh
Date: 17-Jun-17




Always use a bow quiver and have never heard of this. Is it possible that the warp was caused by something else?

MP

From: aromakr Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 17-Jun-17




I could be that you had the attachment points out on the fadeouts which caused the arrows to bend every time you drew the bow.

Bob

From: Catsailor
Date: 17-Jun-17




Mpdh. I don't think it was caused by something else. None of my other arrows had this problem. I'll just use the GN quiver. It's easy to remove while keeping the arrows in the quiver. Back quivers are cool and I have some, but they aren't suited for my style of hunting.

From: Longcruise
Date: 17-Jun-17




Just get some hardware store dowels to keep in the quiver for balance. When your woodies get crooked, just straighten them out.

From: Osr144
Date: 10-Jul-17




I don't know but my Bear quiver never did that and it's on. 58" recurve.I still prefere my back quiver the most. OSR

From: BigOzzie
Date: 10-Jul-17




never heard of such a deal, my first question would be were they sealed well? most of the time wood warps when it changes moisture too fast, so I wonder if your arrows were changing moisture?

oz

From: JustSomeDude
Date: 11-Jul-17




Having a 'convenient' quiver full of arrows that you are worried about getting warped is not convenient

From: CD
Date: 11-Jul-17




Bend the wires at the attachment point on the Great Northern quiver until the mounting angles fit your bow so that the hood and gripper line up perfectly. I use vise grips... hard to bend, but it will work much better.

CD

From: Catsailor
Date: 11-Jul-17




CD my GN Quiver works fine. The issue is with a different quiver that does not have the wire like the Great Northern. BigOzzie I never thought about the moisture, but the problem stopped when I switched quivers. The dowel idea is a good one too.

From: gluetrap
Date: 11-Jul-17




I would think wood arrows,like wood bows would take a set,sealed or not...ron

From: RymanCat
Date: 11-Jul-17




Any chance you had a quiver stay that was wrong size? There are different sizes and if you force a wooden arrow in say a carbon stay that might mess them up. I never had wooden arrows warp in a quiver that I can recall yet though?

Odd issue maybe arrows not sealed enough possibly? Glad ya got it figured out Tom.

From: Orion Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 11-Jul-17




Quiver placement can contribute to arrows taking a set as has already been pointed out. However, there's another cause that a lot of folks don't think about.

I have a tendency to carry my bow under my left arm when hunting. A lot of time, the inside of my bicep is pressing on the center of the arrows in the quiver. No doubt in my mind that is the reason my arrows sometimes take a set. Not a big problem. I just take them out and straighten them occasionally. Regardless, wood will shoot straight even when they're a little warped.

From: N. Y. Yankee
Date: 11-Jul-17




I have always recommended to keep wood arrows in a divider case that will keep them straight while not in use. When you are done hunting or practicing, take your arrows out of the bow quiver and put them away, like anything else you want to take care of. Wood arrows require a bit more care and maintenance than other kinds. Like anything else, if you take care of them, they will take care of you. If you don't want to do that, get some carbons. Carbons are perfect you know. I've never had and woodies warp doing this.

From: stykman
Date: 11-Jul-17




I don't shoot woodies but if I did that dowel idea would be one I would implement. Perfect solution. Who said we have nothing but a bunch of duds on this site? :)

From: Red Beastmaster
Date: 11-Jul-17




While hunting from a seated position (ground or tree) I have an arrow nocked and the bow across my lap. The arrows in the bow quiver rest on my left knee while I hold the bow.

One time I checked my wood arrows for straightness and was shocked to see my number 2 and 3 arrows were terribly warped. Number 1 arrow was perfect. ????

It took me a bit until I figured out what was going on. The weight of my bow and my arm pressing against the arrows over the course of the season had given them a set. Number 1 arrow was always on the string.

Now I'm careful to rest the lower grip on my knee.

From: Tomas
Date: 12-Jul-17




Just one more reason for carbons.





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