From: HARRY CARRY
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Date: 15-Jun-17 |
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Howdy! I received a used Jo-Jan MultiFletch 6-fletching unit, and noticed that 2 of the 6 nock receivers do not line up an arrow like the other 4.
4 will allow me 3-fletched arrows, with cock feather up. (Creating what I call the "Mercedes Benz" symbol.) The oddball 2 receiver will not allow that angle configuration.
The picture shows both versions. The one on the left is the oddball (to me), and the one on the right is the type I need. Note where the ball-bearing-indentations are, in comparison to the nock-grove-metal. They are different.
All 6 will allow me equal 4-fletching, if I choose, by switching to the "other end" of the nock receiver, as shown in the photo.
My arrows are all swage-nocked, so I can't fletch, then turn the nock.
Are the oddball (to me) 2 receivers an anomaly, or, are they worth attempting to trade for the remaining 2 of the type I need?
Thanks for any info! Aloha & 73! Randy
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From: Jim Casto Jr
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Date: 15-Jun-17 |
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Interesting. I've not heard of this before, but if it belonged to me, I'd drill some indents where I wanted them. :^)
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From: jaz5833
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Date: 15-Jun-17 |
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I think I'd try to grasp the locater with a pair of needle nose pliers and adjust it to where it needs to be.
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From: Thin Man
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Date: 15-Jun-17 |
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If I remember correctly, I had to do as Jaz suggested with one of my receivers. The innard part had shifted from where it was supposed to be wedged in place. This was a brand new unit and perhaps the innards were, shall we say, a bit quickly and carelessly inserted on a late Friday afternoon.
It was a quick fix after I got through scratching my head and grabbing the pliers for the correction.
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From: Viper
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Date: 15-Jun-17 |
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HC -
Pliers.
Viper1 out.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 15-Jun-17 |
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10-4 on the pliers and adjustment. Had to do it to mine many years ago.
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From: GLF
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Date: 15-Jun-17 |
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lmao pull em out and turn em around, one side of the receiver is 3 flaetch and the other side 4 fletch
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From: Bentstick54
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Date: 15-Jun-17 |
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I have one that I have to watch because it will turn inside. I would use some needle nose pliers and turn as needed, then just keep an eye on them.
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From: Bentstick54
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Date: 15-Jun-17 |
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I have one that I have to watch because it will turn inside. I would use some needle nose pliers and turn as needed, then just keep an eye on them.
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 15-Jun-17 |
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If I recall they made a receiver for doing vanes that helped clearance on compound bows. Same as Blitz. In fact I have two Blitz's, one set up for vanes and one with the older receiver I use for feathers.
I believe those receivers are available on Jo-Jan website. Maybe an email to them can clarify this issue.
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From: HARRY CARRY
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Date: 15-Jun-17 |
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Thank you to everyone who posted. I was not sure if the "innard part" was a machined part of the entire locator, so I didn't want to dig in there, and possibly bust up the piece.
I'll give the needle nosed pliers, and a drop of oil, a "go" tomorrow after work.
I'll post if it was a success, and will reserve for the moment posting a "WANTED" in the swap and trade thread.
Much appreciated....
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From: Sipsey River
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Date: 15-Jun-17 |
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Are you sure that if you rotate one 180 degrees it wount then match?
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From: Viper
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Date: 15-Jun-17 |
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HC -
I wouldn't do the oil thing, unless you want to keep adjusting them. I had one that was a little loose and after tweaking it, I either used a little solder or epoxy, I forget which, it was a long time ago. Damn thing was only 30 something years old ...
Viper out.
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From: dean
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Date: 15-Jun-17 |
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I always used swaged arrows and rotate after fletching. I tack the fletching nocks on with a dab of hot melt, then after the feathers are done I pop off the fletching nocks and glue on permanant ones. I like to rotate left wings counter clockwise for left hand shooting and right wings clock wise for right hand shooting. Lately, I have been going with cock feather in and balancing the hen feathers equally so I can shoot with either hand with the same shafts. I do the pre-rotation when making wood arrows. I do not rotate four fletch arrows. I find that 4" four fletch to be very easy in a Jo-Jan, while 5.5" can be a bit of a challenge at times. I add two clothes pins to give the clamp more pressure.
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From: HARRY CARRY
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Date: 16-Jun-17 |
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Sipsey/John, no, there is a physical difference where the indentations were drilled. Take a close look at the 2 I have shown, and look where the indentation is on the left one, compared to the right one. It seems to be off by a few degrees. I've taken them out, readjusted, flipped, rotated, said a curse word or two, and they just don't line up.
HVAC TECH sent me a message saying that a machine shop over in Washington, PA sells complete replacement sets, so I may be contacting them. He also noted that some may have a small spot weld to prevent me from attempting to turn that interior piece. I do know that last night, with a pair of needle nosed pliers, I scratched up one of the pieces, so I'll have to deal with that.
Viper, I thought about what might happen once the oil gets in there. But, even with a drop of oil, nothing happened, other than me scratching that flat piece. So, I'm letting them sit for the day, and when I get home, I'll give it another go. To remove any excess oil, IF I AM SUCCESSFUL, I'll clean them out with some chemicals from mystical 55-gallon drums here at work! (Acetone and roller cleaners.)
Dean's idea of a temporary nock glue drop might be the trick. Also, possibly me (hah hah!!) taking a drill and delicately creating new indentation points. These are solutions/ideas I'll be contemplating.
The thing is that I'm only working with small diameter arrows: 16xx up to 18xx alums. So, the nocks are already small. Any issues I create concerning the nock receivers will be greatly noticed.
Again, my thanks to EVERYONE. I hope I can get these fixed!
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From: Viper
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Date: 16-Jun-17 |
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HC -
I see what you mean, but unless you plan on using both 3 AND 4 fletch arrows, just align the side of the receiver you are going to use.
OK, if you can remove the oil, but since it's a press fit, I would try some kind of impact first.
If the JJ is new you can return the receiver or just buy a new one. Last I checked they were about $10.
Viper out.
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From: strshotx
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Date: 16-Jun-17 |
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The 4 nock receivers you have that fletches cock feather up is their TM Hunter nock receiver.It fletches cock feather up with 3 fletch and the four fletch are a 4x90.The other ones are their standard nock receivers that will your standard 3 fletch and the opposite end will do 4 fletch at 75/105.The TM Hunter nock receivers are usally purchased seperately
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From: HARRY CARRY
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Date: 16-Jun-17 |
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strshotx: THANK YOU for the new info. I have an email into JoJan, now that I learned they are from Washington, PA, just in the next country from where I live. Once I get all the confirmed info I need, I'll probably end up purchasing the 2 that I need, or putting something in the Leatherwall's monthly Swap and Trade thread. I have a bunch of arrows that need attention, and this tool will surely be a great addition to the help I need getting them done.
MY HEARTFELT THANKS to everyone who has replied here!
Aloha & 73! Randy, aka HARRY CARRY
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From: HARRY CARRY
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Date: 16-Jun-17 |
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"next COUNTY" from where I live...Washington, PA to Greensburg, PA.
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