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Jo-Jan multi: different nock receivers?

Messages posted to thread:
HARRY CARRY 15-Jun-17
Jim Casto Jr 15-Jun-17
jaz5833 15-Jun-17
Thin Man 15-Jun-17
Viper 15-Jun-17
George D. Stout 15-Jun-17
GLF 15-Jun-17
Bentstick54 15-Jun-17
Bentstick54 15-Jun-17
M60gunner 15-Jun-17
HARRY CARRY 15-Jun-17
Sipsey River 15-Jun-17
Viper 15-Jun-17
dean 15-Jun-17
HARRY CARRY 16-Jun-17
Viper 16-Jun-17
strshotx 16-Jun-17
HARRY CARRY 16-Jun-17
HARRY CARRY 16-Jun-17
From: HARRY CARRY
Date: 15-Jun-17

HARRY CARRY's embedded Photo



Howdy! I received a used Jo-Jan MultiFletch 6-fletching unit, and noticed that 2 of the 6 nock receivers do not line up an arrow like the other 4.

4 will allow me 3-fletched arrows, with cock feather up. (Creating what I call the "Mercedes Benz" symbol.) The oddball 2 receiver will not allow that angle configuration.

The picture shows both versions. The one on the left is the oddball (to me), and the one on the right is the type I need. Note where the ball-bearing-indentations are, in comparison to the nock-grove-metal. They are different.

All 6 will allow me equal 4-fletching, if I choose, by switching to the "other end" of the nock receiver, as shown in the photo.

My arrows are all swage-nocked, so I can't fletch, then turn the nock.

Are the oddball (to me) 2 receivers an anomaly, or, are they worth attempting to trade for the remaining 2 of the type I need?

Thanks for any info! Aloha & 73! Randy

From: Jim Casto Jr
Date: 15-Jun-17




Interesting. I've not heard of this before, but if it belonged to me, I'd drill some indents where I wanted them. :^)

From: jaz5833
Date: 15-Jun-17




I think I'd try to grasp the locater with a pair of needle nose pliers and adjust it to where it needs to be.

From: Thin Man
Date: 15-Jun-17




If I remember correctly, I had to do as Jaz suggested with one of my receivers. The innard part had shifted from where it was supposed to be wedged in place. This was a brand new unit and perhaps the innards were, shall we say, a bit quickly and carelessly inserted on a late Friday afternoon.

It was a quick fix after I got through scratching my head and grabbing the pliers for the correction.

From: Viper
Date: 15-Jun-17




HC -

Pliers.

Viper1 out.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 15-Jun-17




10-4 on the pliers and adjustment. Had to do it to mine many years ago.

From: GLF
Date: 15-Jun-17




lmao pull em out and turn em around, one side of the receiver is 3 flaetch and the other side 4 fletch

From: Bentstick54
Date: 15-Jun-17




I have one that I have to watch because it will turn inside. I would use some needle nose pliers and turn as needed, then just keep an eye on them.

From: Bentstick54
Date: 15-Jun-17




I have one that I have to watch because it will turn inside. I would use some needle nose pliers and turn as needed, then just keep an eye on them.

From: M60gunner
Date: 15-Jun-17




If I recall they made a receiver for doing vanes that helped clearance on compound bows. Same as Blitz. In fact I have two Blitz's, one set up for vanes and one with the older receiver I use for feathers.

I believe those receivers are available on Jo-Jan website. Maybe an email to them can clarify this issue.

From: HARRY CARRY
Date: 15-Jun-17




Thank you to everyone who posted. I was not sure if the "innard part" was a machined part of the entire locator, so I didn't want to dig in there, and possibly bust up the piece.

I'll give the needle nosed pliers, and a drop of oil, a "go" tomorrow after work.

I'll post if it was a success, and will reserve for the moment posting a "WANTED" in the swap and trade thread.

Much appreciated....

From: Sipsey River
Date: 15-Jun-17




Are you sure that if you rotate one 180 degrees it wount then match?

From: Viper
Date: 15-Jun-17




HC -

I wouldn't do the oil thing, unless you want to keep adjusting them. I had one that was a little loose and after tweaking it, I either used a little solder or epoxy, I forget which, it was a long time ago. Damn thing was only 30 something years old ...

Viper out.

From: dean
Date: 15-Jun-17




I always used swaged arrows and rotate after fletching. I tack the fletching nocks on with a dab of hot melt, then after the feathers are done I pop off the fletching nocks and glue on permanant ones. I like to rotate left wings counter clockwise for left hand shooting and right wings clock wise for right hand shooting. Lately, I have been going with cock feather in and balancing the hen feathers equally so I can shoot with either hand with the same shafts. I do the pre-rotation when making wood arrows. I do not rotate four fletch arrows. I find that 4" four fletch to be very easy in a Jo-Jan, while 5.5" can be a bit of a challenge at times. I add two clothes pins to give the clamp more pressure.

From: HARRY CARRY
Date: 16-Jun-17




Sipsey/John, no, there is a physical difference where the indentations were drilled. Take a close look at the 2 I have shown, and look where the indentation is on the left one, compared to the right one. It seems to be off by a few degrees. I've taken them out, readjusted, flipped, rotated, said a curse word or two, and they just don't line up.

HVAC TECH sent me a message saying that a machine shop over in Washington, PA sells complete replacement sets, so I may be contacting them. He also noted that some may have a small spot weld to prevent me from attempting to turn that interior piece. I do know that last night, with a pair of needle nosed pliers, I scratched up one of the pieces, so I'll have to deal with that.

Viper, I thought about what might happen once the oil gets in there. But, even with a drop of oil, nothing happened, other than me scratching that flat piece. So, I'm letting them sit for the day, and when I get home, I'll give it another go. To remove any excess oil, IF I AM SUCCESSFUL, I'll clean them out with some chemicals from mystical 55-gallon drums here at work! (Acetone and roller cleaners.)

Dean's idea of a temporary nock glue drop might be the trick. Also, possibly me (hah hah!!) taking a drill and delicately creating new indentation points. These are solutions/ideas I'll be contemplating.

The thing is that I'm only working with small diameter arrows: 16xx up to 18xx alums. So, the nocks are already small. Any issues I create concerning the nock receivers will be greatly noticed.

Again, my thanks to EVERYONE. I hope I can get these fixed!

From: Viper
Date: 16-Jun-17




HC -

I see what you mean, but unless you plan on using both 3 AND 4 fletch arrows, just align the side of the receiver you are going to use.

OK, if you can remove the oil, but since it's a press fit, I would try some kind of impact first.

If the JJ is new you can return the receiver or just buy a new one. Last I checked they were about $10.

Viper out.

From: strshotx
Date: 16-Jun-17




The 4 nock receivers you have that fletches cock feather up is their TM Hunter nock receiver.It fletches cock feather up with 3 fletch and the four fletch are a 4x90.The other ones are their standard nock receivers that will your standard 3 fletch and the opposite end will do 4 fletch at 75/105.The TM Hunter nock receivers are usally purchased seperately

From: HARRY CARRY
Date: 16-Jun-17




strshotx: THANK YOU for the new info. I have an email into JoJan, now that I learned they are from Washington, PA, just in the next country from where I live. Once I get all the confirmed info I need, I'll probably end up purchasing the 2 that I need, or putting something in the Leatherwall's monthly Swap and Trade thread. I have a bunch of arrows that need attention, and this tool will surely be a great addition to the help I need getting them done.

MY HEARTFELT THANKS to everyone who has replied here!

Aloha & 73! Randy, aka HARRY CARRY

From: HARRY CARRY
Date: 16-Jun-17




"next COUNTY" from where I live...Washington, PA to Greensburg, PA.





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