This morning all the crew was out setting up targets for the church shoot. The topic got stuck on mature deer and, their nature. We discussed many of the well known and preached theories about how they travel etc.... We were stumped about how a deer that never travels with the wi d gets back to its favorite bedding area every night. And what happens when he can't get back due to the wind never changing direction. Allowing him a secure retreat. Because we ALL know that a mature deer will NEVER travel with the wind at his back.

I have wandered for years how a mature deer got back to his bedding area with this constraint. I finally come to the conclusion that is why we only see them once. Because the wind has never changed!!!!! Allowing them to come back.

Alas, as my skills have gotten better, I noticed I started to see these deer more than once. Since we ALL know a deer will NOT walk with the wind at its back, and until the wind changes, they must travel long ways before they can ever turn around. The Moulder gang and myself were discussing the particular phenomenon when Scotty Moulder and Famous Dave Moulder finally let me in on the secret. Portals.

That's right. You heard me. Portals. Deer use time travel portals to get beck into their home range in times when the wind doesn't change and they reach the end of their home range. Think about it men. It's a perfect explanation. I admit I didn't first believe them. However, the Moulder's NEVER lie. And they said they've SEEN it first hand. They even went on and discussed how THEY had built these portals. To ensure the deer that lived on their farms, never had to leave their farm.

Well, there you go guys. The greatest of all time, that's me, sharing the famous Moulder secret. No longer will you have the threads about hunting mature deer. You no KNOW the secret to getting and keeping big bucks on your property. This was such cuttiing edge information, I had to share it. Dave says there will be a book coming out later this year on construction methods and most efficient portal dimensions. If we are lucky, perhaps one of the Moulder crew will join in here and explain it a little better. Who needs Jim Zumbo. We got the Moulder's.

Dang i always thought it was a clingon cloaking device. Learn something new everyday

Thanks! I had wondered the same thing myself...ever since I was 10 and first heard the "wind at their back" gospel, from hunters much older and wiser than myself.

I had always theorized that the world must be smaller than science was telling us, and the deer were walking around it. This has set me straight.

Stick a cell phone in his bedding area up about 7-8 feet and put the volume up to full blast. Set the ringer tone to a loud dog bark sound.

Wait perpendicular to his favorite man made portal with your knocked arrow. Call your phone. He will vaporize like a Star Trek.

Einstein said space-time is warped by gravity. So only the Big ,heavy bucks are able to use this method. They are called " wormholes " . I thought everyone already knew this. That's why the skinny 10 pt you let " grow up" is never seen again but you find shed to heavy to carry home! Arrowchucker out.

No. The Moulder heritage spans way back. Their ancestors passed these secrets on. It has nothing to do with science. It's all Moulder.

Wasn't that X-Files guy named Moulder?!

N here all this time I thought it was tunnels, or just magic.

You sure your not setting up targets in Colorado after having some of those "brownies " for breakfast?

Har, that is good Matt.

Yes. They named him after these guys

That's why only only see big bucks once, they start out on the east coast and end up on the west coast 6-7 yrs later.

Ok now could you pkease figure out mTure turkeys for us. Thankyou

According to the Moulder's, those deer unlucky enough to know of the portals, simply run into the ocean and drown.

One of the facts that one must accept in regards to deer and what's been written about them, is a that as true as the literature may be, the stupid deer HAVEN'T LEARNED HOW TO READ YET!

Because of this the dumb SOB's continue to just go by, "What am I going to eat, what's going to try and eat me, and who am I going to have sex with?"

Maybe they should start having remedial reading mixed in the the food plots.

haha..good one WV.

"Because we ALL know that a mature deer will NEVER travel with the wind at his back."

Except that they do it the time! ;)

Starts making one realize how important a factor latitude is in eastern big buck states. I tell you what; these Moulder's are next level for sure.

I seen a giant buck traveling cross wind at his back one day while I was out on assignment that made me wake up and defied what I always thought as well until I saw it.

I then realized just how smart this deer must have been it was in the middle of the rut he was all swelled up so I knew he was cruising. That way he could cover a lot of ground by site and smell he had it all going on.

Then deer in the mountains must get lost alot walking in circles when the wind is always swirling. No wonder you never see any there.

Yep. They just keep walking unless they portal back to their bedding area. I doubt mountain deer have the next level thought process down well enough to know how to use portals. So, the deer may never come back through a certain area if the wind blows the same direction long enough.

That's true Glenn. Using the wind and, their eyes to cover double duty!!!!!!! Interesting stuff. The Moulder's said the same thing. And, they never lie or, they are never wrong. It appears there is more than one group of next level thinkers out there, as this thread testifies too that. Let's keep it going. By next hunting season, we'll all be on the next level and those big bucks won't stand a chance!

mature bucks walk with the wind at their back all the time. Don't know where the idea that they don't came from.

No they don't. They portal. The Moulder's said so. So does thousands of other next level thinkers

We learned long ago that our deer, here in Pa., nearly always travel with the wind at their back or quartering from behind. It just makes sense since they can smell danger that approaches from behind where they can't see. They can see what's ahead in their line of travel. I believe I personally heard that first from the Wensel brothers back in the 1970's. That is when I really started watching them more closely.

Maybe they all didn't get the memo. Or, maybe it varies from particular environment as well, depending on habitat, the vagaries of the wind, and even the direction of travel as it relates to human population. Out here in the rural woods of the Eastern Allegheny Mountains, they mostly move with then wind coming from behind or quartering, etc. I have not seen a deer moving directly into the wind unless they were jumped.

Them PA deer understand portals. Everyone wants to credit AR's and increased doe harvest as the key. I've said for a long time habitat was key. And, I've been told for a longtime I'm stupid. Well, the Moulder's have it right. I have been ignorant all along. It's portals. Pressured PA deer have been long time users of them. That's coming from famous Dave. Not me. The more they talked, the more revelation just hit me upside the head. All along I thought my schooling and firsthand knowledge was paramount. It isn't. Knowing the Moulder's was. I'm so lucky

Well all-righty then *^). Certainly wouldn't want to contradict what's working for you. I can only go on my personal experience, and what I see in the woods Justin. Glad you got info and can use it to advantage.

Never doubt Famous Dave Justin. He knows all.

You have not hunted the mid west a bunch then. I have seen a lot of true giants walk with the wind directly at there back. I watched a 160 plus inch buck go at least 2 miles acrossed the open prairie and the wind was at his back. he then bedded by the only tree within a mile. I got to 40 yards before he busted me. I agree though that deer, mature deer ecsp quarter into the wind. I wish deer would travel with the wind at there back more often, way easier to kill that way. Too say they "mostly travel with the wind at their back is just plain not true. In PA or anyplace else, if they did there would not be many mature deer anywhere. The wind is what saves their lives most of the time. Shawn

Here they use an extensive network of tunnels. I think they trained with the VC.

Shawn, you aren't listening. Mature deer that use portals routinely walk with the wind at their back. That is what the Moulder crew is trying to teach all of us. I know all you guys think you are something with your big bucks but, if you will humble yourself they can teach you the art of killing a mature buck.

I could go on and on about my schooling today. I could have gotten long winded with Stout about why PA deer started to move with the wind at their back. Told him Dave's great uncle's cousin was from PA. Lived there 80 years ago and installed thousands of portals for the entire state's deer herd while doing so. Instead, I just tried to tell everyone in a brief explanation that we have found the whitetail deer hunting equivalent of Steve Jobs' in Dave Moulder and his boy's.

Oh well, it's getting late and, I'm getting sleepy. I'll have to continue this tomorrow and the following days. His guidance went way beyond Portals. It covered bows, arrow selection, what's ethical, the best release method, etc.... You guys are in for a real treat.

That sure would explain a lot. Fact is as some have said animals often travel with the wind to see what is a head and smell what may be coming up behind. The only time a mature buck will 100% travel in to the wind is when he is suspicious,looking for doe, or danger. They will bed the same way to detect danger from the front and rear especially in more open or high country.>>--> Ken

The real hunting tactic from this all would be to make artificial portals: all the mature bucks in the area would see them, go to them, and not be able to enter, so they would just mill around by it waiting for the stealthy bowhunter to sneak up an pick out the biggest one. Simple! Please hurry with the design so I can start building them - could probably market them on one of the outdoor TV shows to go along with all the other stuff ... I'll be rich I tell ya, rich !!!

I knew I shouldn't have moved. Look at all this first hand knowledge I'm missing out on Justin.

I understand. But, you can still benefit from it. I'm going to share it as it comes. After church time today, I'm going to cruise out there and pick their brain a little bit more. I couldn't sleep last night I was so amp'ed up. With just the tad bit of next level thought they shared with me, my mind spun in circles keeping me awake with excitement.

The funny thing is I need no one to teach me about big bucks, their behavior or killing them for that matter. There are very few big buck experts out there, very few. Stan Potts at one time was one of them, Myles Keller as well and a couple others. One of my best friends is another and no one even knows who he is. I have learned some things from him, still the only way to learn is to experience it yourself, not through other peoples banter. Shawn

Our deer wont walk with the wind in their backs either but they are a little smarter, they just walk backwards !!!

By the way I think the Moulders should be beamed up!! Scottie Out!! :-) Scooby

Scooby, The Moulder's could teach all those guys and, your buddy a thing or ten. None of them are next level thinkers like the Moulder's. For proof, just ask them about portals. I'm certain they will look puzzled. Because that is next level thinking. Not living in a big buck state hunting private farms like they do. Where anyone can kill one.

FWIW, don't leave yet. I haven't even begin to express the real important part of their teachings.

Since the Moulder's never lie and they are never wrong; does that mean they never argue with each other?

You could at least stay with the sci-fi theme. I was gonna play along a bit, but it really is just too stupid. Have Fun!! Shawn

Here is proof.

I was told today that I needed to visit the LW. My I-Pad passed away several weeks ago so I have been out of touch. A friend in the next town has allowed me to set up my LW registration on his I-Pad. I must say I was somewhat surprised to see the thread about mature deer. I never planned to go public with this information. Justin is one of my best friends and seeing the excitement in his eyes as this conversation developed I can understand why he wanted to share it with you guys on the LW. I did tell Justin I planned to write a book but that is a wish or a dream. My schedule allows no time for a book.( I've already been 50 mins on what I've hunt and pecked so far). Portals are real. When I was very young I remember my people speaking of them but never understood until I saw it for myself. Some of this subject I will not discuss here. As far as wind influence on deer travel it makes no difference. In my area 82% of the time the wind, air currents and breezes come out of the west and northwest. If the deer you observe favor traveling into the wind they will will travel west. If they favor traveling with the wind they will be headed toward Norfolk Va. if they favor a quartering angle they are on the way to Maine or Florida. Hence how can they return home? Portals. As far as increasing access to portals, it can be done by creating new PTPs ( Portal Transition Points) . Running out of time here I need to get home. I will try to check back in a few days. Been very busy trying to finish up on organizing GADTARE.

So mature deer travel by Portkey??? Wow...

Don't they snark floo powder?

And wind up here?

Or here?

No white tails in NV,so they must go back. Some how. Portals only exist in science fiction. They do quarter the wind. Mulies will walk across large slopes with the wind at their backs--the only way to get there.

Why not volunteer some some time at your fish and game, (they can always use extra hands)then ask them to collar a nice buck and track him vs the wind. Conjecture will go out the window pretty quickly.

Kinda wish there were Whitetails in Nevada sometimes. You Eastern boys have a lot of fun, I'm envious! Did see a collar on a mature Muley doe last year. Guess it's possible the fish-cops are studying some portal like migration routes. A quick field glance told me she was just not liking her persistent suitor. Took that old boy on a run till I could see em no more! Enjoy this way more than the mean stuff. Matthew

Portals are possible. I'd never doubt them, but I have, what I believe to be, a higher level of thought on the matter. I believe the premise mature deer travel with the wind to their backs is false. It's based upon past wisdom, passed down by little minds. Mature deer always travel INTO the wind! During the day, prevailing westerlies have them all traveling west. In storms it's different. They get confused and hunker down. As night falls and calm comes over the land, they can travel anywhere. As the sun rises, you often get an easterly breeze, and mature deer travel back east to the general area they were in the day before. So, you get a west to east movement, with some north and south thrown in and some hunkering down just to confuse things. I hope this helps.

Joe

Most of the mature deer I know of travel underground during deer season. Into holes and through tunnels.

Maybe DEER have learned to use the DIRAC TRANSPORTER? ( See various seasons of STAR-TREK) They seem to appear and disappear rat quickly?? Just saying.

Frisky, this maybe one area where you and the Moulder's differ in expertise. I'm not really sure from your limited response. However, where I know you see eye to eye with their next level thinking is the logic they put on weapons choice's, ethics, etc.....

Dave said anyone who shoots a bow who's riser isn't made of wood is a phoney, cheat, poser, etc.... He also said bows should be one piece. None of this modern techno crap. Arrows should be handcrafted, strings should be braided of sinew, that tree stands were unfair, etc.... And for Pete's sake, no gapping, string walking, three under pink panty wearing girly men should be allowed to call them selves primitive, trad, or anything else trying to act like a bowhuter. I heard Scotty Moulder refer to these men as women even.

I'm not sure if you are that adamant or not but, Scotty is a big ole boy. Ain't many anywhere going to back talk him. Surely not me as I am finding myself agreeing with them more and more as I ponder these revelations.

I think the Moulder's and I are pretty much on the same page regarding most things tradition archery related. I would add those who use a tab are in the girly men column. I mean, real men use a manly glove. I think we've pretty much established that around here. Howard Hill and Fred Bear used a glove.

Joe

Real men use real bare fingers, not some wimpy leather skin protector, and build up the callus. You ever see guitar players using a leather glove? Same goes for armguards, learn the proper technique and they aren't necessary. You should know that Joe.

The first time I met the Moulders, I knew I was in the presents of greatness. They've never shared much of their whitetail wisdom with me, I assume they feel I'm not ready yet.

it's obvious by some people's responses on this thread that they fail to reach the level of thinking that is required to participate in a thread of this stature.

I think over the years I've had many stands near portals and didn't even recognize them, so the portals must look just like other normal woodland features. My proximity to portals would be the only logical explanation to how deer suddenly appeared and disappeared.

Apparently elk have long been skilled at using portals as the Indian name for elk, Wapiti, is supposed to mean "wind walker" or " he who travels on the wind". I don't imagine they had a word for "portals" back then.

I wonder if non typical bucks come about when there is some type of electro magnetic glitch while they are being transported through the portals?

..the Indian name for elk, Wapiti, is supposed to mean "wind walker" or " he who travels on the wind"... Actually, 'waapiti' is originally from Shawnee and means 'one with a white rump'. Talk about 'wind'...

Slayer, it is obvious that you too are a next level thinker. Only a man with vast experiences could so properly explain it like you just did. I'm not there yet. I'm trying to be. I'm kinda like Yankee Dave in that I have just not been mentally strong enough to be let in on the secret. Until now. I guess the Moulder's felt sorry for me. I don't know. But, I'm not complaining. I have finally been let in on the club.

They indoctrined TJK68 and Stickbow 21 many years ago. As bad as it hurt me that they left me out, I now realize it was for my own good. I just wasn't mentally prepared enough for such next level thinking. So, keep hope Dave. You keep hanging around us long enough, you'll be converted to their way of thinking soon enough.

Frisky, it's interesting that you mention that about men wearing gloves. Back in April at our first shoot, I had to shoot a light 50 pound bow due to my shoulder injury. I also used a tab for the first time. When going to the doctor the following Tuesday, they drew blood for my annual screening. Wouldn't you know it, my testosterone count had dropped 5 points. I seriously believe had I shot three under, I might not had to shave by now. So, shooting light bows, with a tab is definitely girly. Add in three under and these archers should go ahead and order a dress. Because before long they'll be complaining of aches and monthly menstraul cramps like women. I think one of the guys that commented earlier is expressing those changes already.

Seems the boomer generation is engaging in 'next level thinking' these days, to the point of being 'old, tired, and bored, once-stoned, now dememted' offseason weirdness...or am I just too 'out there' or 'out of touch with reality'??? :^) Or just too stupid to engage in this level of intelligent conversation....... / LOL. Deer portals... OK, Harry, Grab the boot!

You aren't stupid likely. Just not as capable as some. There is nothing wrong with that. As, I'm not nearly as capable as some here has exhibited. But, the important thing is I'm trying to broaden my horizon and open my mind.

TrapperKayak I have noticed your pictures. It appears as though you may be entering the realm of "next level" thinking. Be careful and be very afraid. Many enter that realm and have never since been the same.

Portals! That's how Frisky got here:_

Ghost, I think WV disagrees... :^)

I think I'm capable, just not willing. I am a scientist too grounded in reality. And no mature deer or elk has been able to escape my vision whenever I wish to find them. Maybe my arrows, but not my eyes.

Is it that you are not willing or just too afraid? Just asking.

Well, I have not really been know to be a fearing type, except God-fearing. Not afraid of the unknown. I like fantasy for entertainment, not afraid to laugh at or with it, but fantasy is self defining, and I am into reality. Deer and elk don't 'dis-apperate'. They don't travel through portals. Actually, I do have a place in the woods that I call the Port-Key, a spot where two large trees the same size fell at right angles creating a portal of sorts, that I followed a deer through last fall. It is as sot that weird things happen when I walk through. Two years ago when I walked through, I jumped a coyote bedded 10 yards from the roots, and he was wounded, so I shot him. I get a strange feeling that something is watching me whenever I walk through. Usually there is, and they are deer, or coyotes. But it is real, not fantasy, and they are not ghosts. Do I believe in ghosts - Yes, of course, but I am definitely not afraid of them. I fear the living, not the dead. This is The Port-Key..entering into it.

This is The Port-Key..after going through. Always something extraordinary feeling about this place. But otherworldly? Maybe. But do I fear? Never. Respect? Yes. Wonder? Marvel? Yes. I don't worry about the unknown, just don't worry much at all. I do wonder who is watching from 'out there', and believe someone or many are watching. Someday I'll be one of them. There, does that make me qualify as a 'Moulder-type'? God's watching, that's for sure. I'm willing to accept that with 'fear' of God...which translates to respect rather than fear.

BTW Trapper I don't think WV is qualified to make that decision. Just sayin.

Yeah, me either, he doesn't really know what I'm capable of. I don't even know, yet. I know what I'm capable of after I do it...

Are you guys calling me dumb?

Can someone explain the difference between a Time Portal and a Time Pylon.

No, just ignorant... :^) Obviously not dumb - you're very 'vocal'.

Stick, Not me, ignorant about that...

I wonder why some folks wander around not knowing the difference between the two. bvd

I had to walk to my friends house this morning to use his I-Pad. Dang Chevy truck broke down again. Longbowdave, I did not feel you were ready. At that time Justin wasn't ready. You experienced a portal and didn't know it. Did you and Justin set up your stand in the bog where I had scouted days before? Yes. Didn't I tell you that you would get a buck there? Yes. Didn't he just suddenly appear? Portal.... My great uncles cousin was a shaman in Pa. I know he was envolved with protecting a depleting deer herd and it had to do with portals. I'm out of time again. I need to head up to Crenshaw Flats and start dragging my ricks of tomato stakes and bean poles into town. I sell them at the feed store. I bet I won't make enough money to buy a new I-Pad

No WV you're not dumb you're just entering into the realm of "next level" thinking. You're not yet grounded enough in the truthes of portals to determine who can handle them.

TrapperKayak - sorry, my Indian language dictionary may be off - I remember reading that definition in Outdoor Life when I was a kid, just thought everything you read in an outdoor magazine was true - I wasn't trying to mislead anyone in that part of the post - the rest is just satire.

Slayer, no worries. Maybe 'Wind in His Hair' called them 'wind walkers', or he 'who walks with the wind' in Lakota, since he was so long winded, and loved to shout the name from the highest promontory while the elk were wallowing, who knows? Costner might have an answer for ya... ;^)

'Wapiti, can you see that I am your friend???' 'Walk this way, into the Wind!!!'

Its funny, I know a guy named Wind Warrior (his real name), but he spends much of his time misbehaving and in jail, not out in the wind.

My friend with the I-Pad came over today to help me fix the piece of junk Chevy truck. I think I'll let him work on the truck while I catch up on the LW. Stickbow21, you are up on the time portal phenomenon. Time pylons are man made. A cell tower is the best illustration. You place a call, speak into the phone and almost instantly you receive a response from a phone thousands of miles away. Can you actually see the transition take place? No. Trapperkayak and Slayer NE. I am a proficient handwriting analyst. After studying your responses to this topic I have surmised you guys are the real deal. Portals are already there. PTPs are already there. It is possible to create a PTP. By using natural materials arranged in a precise manner at an exact location a functional PTP can be created about 40% of the time. Remember, a portal is not some kind of safe haven. As soon as a buck passes into one he is exiting another. Now I must comment on WV Mountaineer. Justin is a very formally education man that possesses a much higher degree of common sense than most. Justin's big plus is he never wants to stop learning. I predict that one day he will be this country's foremost authority on portals. I have to go now. My buddy just hollered that he is ready for me to hop on the crane and lower the truck back down on the motor. Thanks for your time. Dave

Dave you are so humble. Thank you so much for putting myself and longbowdave onto the portals that got us our bucks. By just telling me this, it has opened my eyes even more. I didn't even realize to the degree you have been quietly helping newbies like me out. For the last 5 years, you have always gave me hints of where to hunt. i do that and boom, I get a buck. Now I know why. I'm so lucky to have you guys as mentors and friends. I know Yankee Dave feels the same way now. His success since coming to join our group has been solely based on your knwledge.

It's the nay sayer's, the pot smokers, the wanna be legend deer hunters that feel this info is useless. Next level thinkers and, those inspiring to be get the jest real quick if they humble themselves. Thank you so much. I look so forward to your further sharing of knowledge. Between you and Frisky sharing your skills, this forum will be renamed next year. It's new name will be Timezone killers. I can't wait.

Funny, I was beginning to think it was the pot smokers that were contributing to the belief in mature deer traveling through portals. Thanks for setting me STRAIGHT on this... :/

Someone had to. Might as well be me. Because you seem to be dismissing the great Dave Moulder's advice. I assumed you were shrugging it off. I guess they'll always be hater's.

Actually, I was thinking they were on to something. I try to keep an open mind, and don't dismiss anything without the appropriate evidence. Until proven that deer do not travel through portals, I will maintain no negative stance.

Dave you know that 97% of Chevy trucks are still on the road today...the other 3% made it home.

Lost Arrow has a tendency to be right about everything, so I don't think it wise to dismiss his ideas. They are grounded in fact. So, I'm going to have to go with the portal theory and dismiss my wind theory, for now. However, I do know the only way deer around here make it high into trees is when deposited there by a tornado. That's not disputable.

Joe

I have to hurry, my buddy is coming after his I-Pad at 2:00. Frisky, I thank you for your vote of confidence. Your wisdom is beyond belief. Your " from shoots to shafts " thread is superb. Proof that the " Legend of the North " is truly superior in all facets of real trad archery. I am afraid REAL trad archery is phasing out. I am seeing the signs. Wish I could transfer back to the 1950s. Thanks again Frisky.

Probably others wish you could transfer too. LOL

No I'll intent, just couldn't pass it up.

Anyone that's ever sailed a boat should know how they get where they want to go when the wind's not favorable...and it ain't with an outboard either. The simple answer is they just walk around the world until they get back to their bedding area, but that too can't be the answer as everybody knows the earth is flat..

Dave,I agree with you on where Frisky rates in trad archery. His next level thinking and superior skills puts him there. Many miss this due to his humble nature. But, it is true. He is the Legend.

South Park, I see you too are trying to enter the next realm of understanding. I can only implore you to listen to Dave. Don't be like Scooby Doo and, dismiss his teachings as irrelevant or too out there. He has many things to teach us all. Dave doesn't have to go to the midwest to kill mature deer. He isn't a poser. He kills them where he lives here in WV. By using PORTALS. That's a real deer hunter. None of this Myles Keller, Stan Potts, or secret buddy want-a-be stuff.

Men, I hope you are honored to be among the graces of famous Dave Moulder. Plus, what could have been better than the Legend, Frisky himself, joining in and, bestowing his support of the portal authority? That right there is proof of his credibility. Here's hoping Dave gets his own I-pad soon. While it was a sad day when his passed away, he has much to teach us. I'm excited for a new I-pad because the sooner the better.

Longcruise...l liked your reply. Good shot , thanks. My buddy hasn't showed up yet to get his I-Pad so scanning through the LW I had three rather nasty and disgusting PMs. regarding this topic. Not going to mention names but I will respond here. PM # 1. No, I am not related to Lenard Nemoy and I don't think I look like him. In the picture that was posted of me I was wearing a hat...Good Grief ! PM # 2. No I am not an uneducated,stupid, blank,blank,idiot. After high school I attended Bluefield College, Bluefield St. College, Southwest Va Community College, Concord College, University of Va and Virginia Tech. Thanks for your concern. And my response to PM # 3. No I don't think my family is ashamed of me. All 4 of my children have chosen to build their homes here on the land that my people have lived on for hundreds of years. And yes I do have friends. I can think of 5 right now. How many you got? Thanks Dave.

Can humans use a portal to go back and correct mistakes??

Batman- We lack the instincts to travel through portals like deer. However, according to astrophysicists, time travel through portals in space is possible and portals (worm holes) probably exist. So yes, the day might come when you can travel back in time and correct your mistakes, like the leading of a lecherous, rowdy lifestyle that has lead up to your current situation.

Joe

Beam us up Scotty, we've found no intelligent life down here.

Good news, bad news. Good news for me, I just got a new I-Pad. Well not new but it works. I traded the junky 2009 Chevy truck for it. Bad news for the ultra level thinkers, ( probably good news for everyone else ), I will no longer discuss portals on this forum. Most minds are not ready for it. I got another PM from a gentleman who says that I have ruined his life. Got in his head,can't sleep, can't eat. For this I am truly sorry. I want to thank the supporters and apologize to everyone else. I will now focus on finalizing GADTARE. Thanks. Dave

Dang, Dave, I never get any nasty PMs! Guess my style needs work. Meanwhile, I feel kinda inconsequential. :-/. Gonna work at it if only for the sake of saving the Wall from its continuing descent into irrelevance.

"No WV you're not dumb you're just entering into the realm of "next level" thinking. You're not yet grounded enough in the truthes of portals to determine who can handle them."

More true words have never been typed before. Thank you Ghost for pointing that out to me so, I could put things into the proper prospective.

Big buck pylon.

So not we have to go back to reading "Is 28# Enough To Kill A Deer # threads? Here I was enjoying the advanced thinking of the Portals thread. One more question though - What if a person stumbled into a portal - is that how seasoned woodsmen get lost?

Pay attention you guys. This is importaltant information.

I said I would not discuss this topic any further but not leave an important question unanswered I will reply. I have been involved in portal studies for 60 plus years. I personally know the exact location of 47 PTPs. I have passed through them with no effect. I would conclude that they have no effect on humans. On one occasion I witnessed 3 of my free ranging chickens pass through a PTP and vanish. A minute or less later a neighbor about 2 miles away called and said 3 of my chickens were in the road in front of his house. Go figure. Ok no more portal info. Much to controversial. Dave

Do they make porta-portals? That would be damn handy.

Is a portal salesman a portal peddler? I can see the ads now: Perhaps you perceive it's premature to peruse a portal presentation, but you won't be peeved by the privilege presented in a premiere presentation of picture perfect, pretty, precision premium Portals presented by Percy Pearson, possibly the most persistent, particular, peddler in premium Portals from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Just pay a pittance of a price.

Slayer NE....Man, what a clever and witty pitch. If I were to decide to go public with a portal recognition instructional, would you be interested in taking over the advertising? May also be interested in utilizing your skills when I am ready to introduce GADTARE. I really liked it... Dave

Poor, poor pitiful me....for reading this whole thread... :)

I shot 7 broadhead laden arrows at a 1x2 piece of cardboard yesterday for the first time since last fall while hunting. I must admit I shot them well, grouped pretty good for not shooting broadheads for that long. They must have passed through portals. It was like a time warp - I picked right up where I left off 6 mos. ago. :^}

Although I know better than to get sucked in, I can't take it any longer. What is GADTARE ??

I am in the process of forming an organization that defines the rules and ethics of traditional archery. We must admit that " trad archery " is moving in a rather modern direction. When I am ready to present this it will be reviled in a new thread. Thanks Longbowdave. I hope to see you in the backcountry this fall. Dave

This is a verysimple one to answer.... They walk Backwards.jw

""We must admit that " trad archery " is moving in a rather modern direction.""

No Dave, we don't need to admit that. It's just doing what it was doing before compounds came along. Back before the term "trad", which is a modern term, there wasn't an aggravated movement to somehow declare we are going the wrong way...or we need to slow down. Archery is and always will be dynamic, and the so-called "modern" bows and arrows are really nothing new at all, save for maybe the materials used. If someone wants to restrict themselves to a level that they think is well enough, then they are free to do that.

"An organization that defines the rules and ethics of traditional archery"? Really? What you are really saying is you want to tell everyone else how the sport should be played out....a traditional ethics police force. Well okay then, but I won't be signing up in this lifetime.

It appears that GADTARE is already controversial and is still a few weeks or so before it will be introduced. Dave

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