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New bear takedown blows apart

Messages posted to thread:
sheepdogreno 25-Apr-17
Bob W. 25-Apr-17
fdp 25-Apr-17
Twisted Branch 25-Apr-17
cut it out 25-Apr-17
Catsailor 25-Apr-17
arrowflight 25-Apr-17
boatbuilder 25-Apr-17
Bearfingets 25-Apr-17
reddogge 25-Apr-17
joe vt 25-Apr-17
arrowchucker 25-Apr-17
Archer 25-Apr-17
sheepdogreno 25-Apr-17
Mpdh 25-Apr-17
sheepdogreno 25-Apr-17
r-man 25-Apr-17
sheepdogreno 25-Apr-17
GLF 25-Apr-17
BEAUXHUNTER 25-Apr-17
Newhunter 25-Apr-17
dean 25-Apr-17
sheepdogreno 25-Apr-17
BOHO 25-Apr-17
Newhunter 25-Apr-17
sheepdogreno 25-Apr-17
Newhunter 25-Apr-17
George D. Stout 25-Apr-17
sheepdogreno 25-Apr-17
Dry Bones 25-Apr-17
sheepdogreno 25-Apr-17
Bob Rowlands 26-Apr-17
Smokin Joe 26-Apr-17
Bushytail 26-Apr-17
westrayer 26-Apr-17
cyrille 26-Apr-17
Bearfingets 26-Apr-17
stick33 26-Apr-17
sheepdogreno 26-Apr-17
Newhunter 26-Apr-17
Kevin Dill 26-Apr-17
Gvdocholiday 26-Apr-17
GLF 26-Apr-17
jk 26-Apr-17
tecum-tha 26-Apr-17
RymanCat 26-Apr-17
Linecutter 26-Apr-17
Grimesville Assassin 26-Apr-17
jk 26-Apr-17
Kodiak 26-Apr-17
Newhunter 26-Apr-17
Adam Howard 26-Apr-17
4nolz@work 26-Apr-17
PECO 26-Apr-17
MStyles 26-Apr-17
stickbow21 26-Apr-17
sheepdogreno 26-Apr-17
4nolz@work 26-Apr-17
jk 26-Apr-17
jk 26-Apr-17
sheepdogreno 26-Apr-17
4nolz@work 26-Apr-17
BSBD 26-Apr-17
hvac tech 26-Apr-17
Yellow Dog 26-Apr-17
sheepdogreno 26-Apr-17
jk 26-Apr-17
Dry Bones 26-Apr-17
David Mitchell 26-Apr-17
Adam Howard 26-Apr-17
hawkeye in PA 26-Apr-17
David Mitchell 26-Apr-17
jk 26-Apr-17
sheepdogreno 26-Apr-17
Kodiaktd 26-Apr-17
4nolz@work 26-Apr-17
Seahorse 26-Apr-17
N. Y. Yankee 27-Apr-17
fdp 27-Apr-17
From: sheepdogreno
Date: 25-Apr-17

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Less than a week old and no it wasn't dry fired yes I used a stringer and yes I'm just shy of 10gpp...unbelievable and this is supposed to be my turkey bow for a hunt I have planned this weekend.

From: Bob W.
Date: 25-Apr-17




Wow at least its just the limb!

From: fdp
Date: 25-Apr-17




It's glue wood and plastic, put together by a human. It's unfortunate, but it happens.

I've seen it happen to Fasco's, Black Widows, Hills, and bunches of others.

From: Twisted Branch
Date: 25-Apr-17




Darn,...unbelievable.

From: cut it out
Date: 25-Apr-17




Man sorry for your bad luck. That is certainly not a common issue. I would get another set of limbs and not sweat it. It can happen to any bow and has I'm sure. Sucks on timing as turkey season is here basically. Is it under warranty? Just don't give up on the Bear TD. It's a fantastic time proven bow.

From: Catsailor
Date: 25-Apr-17




In my old profession that was known as early life failure. If a product had a defect it would show up sooner rather than later. At least it didn't happen when you were drawing on a turkey. You didn't mention anything about an injury so that's good too. I'm sure Bear will make good on it. After stating all the positive points, yes it still sucks when something like that happens. I feel your pain.

From: arrowflight
Date: 25-Apr-17




Contact Bear Archery, I'm sure they will make it right for you! It must have given you a fright when it went off?

From: boatbuilder
Date: 25-Apr-17




Very unfortunate but everbody working has a bad day and I think you wound up with the results, Bear has a very good warranty but it won't help if your season is close. maybe somebody close will rush a used set to you.

From: Bearfingets
Date: 25-Apr-17




Had the same thing happen to me with the 60lb montana longbow 1 day before opening day.The bow was only a week old ..I feel your pain ??

From: reddogge Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 25-Apr-17




Hope you have a back up bow. Everyone should.

From: joe vt
Date: 25-Apr-17




Uggg sorry that happen to you Darron and I hope you didn't get hurt. I am sure Bear will take care of this failure but in this moment I can appreciate what your are feeling.

From: arrowchucker
Date: 25-Apr-17




Need a bow, I'll send one right out! Arrowchucker out

From: Archer
Date: 25-Apr-17




That's a shame but they should do you right.

From: sheepdogreno
Date: 25-Apr-17




Just below my right eye guy's could have been a lot worse. I'm a huge bear fan and I know they will make it right. This was the best bow I'd ever shot and fit me like a glove. I'm sorry to say I will demand a new riser as well since I don't know what that trauma did to the latch mechanism. There is delamination all the way down to the limb butts. I'm super upset fellas it takes a poor cop a long time to save this kind of money...and to Spend that saved money on something like this is hard...I just hope I can get a replacement soon. I have a cpl back up bows but I was so into this takedown...maybe it will be shotgun for turkey this year

From: Mpdh
Date: 25-Apr-17




I had this happen to me once, only a few wks before deer season. Since then I have always owned more than 1 bow. I'm sure Bear will make it right, but that's not going to help you this weekend.

MP

From: sheepdogreno
Date: 25-Apr-17

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From: r-man
Date: 25-Apr-17




I guess turkey will eat led instead . I would be pissed.

From: sheepdogreno
Date: 25-Apr-17

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From: GLF
Date: 25-Apr-17




Where did you buy it. Some shops will replace it themselves since it's so new.

From: BEAUXHUNTER
Date: 25-Apr-17




Hell a little duct tape and a six pack of PBR ought to do the trick.

From: Newhunter
Date: 25-Apr-17




Have seen this before on same place and same model, guess they are saving on the glue?

From: dean
Date: 25-Apr-17




When I had several Bear takedowns, I had one set of limbs give out and two magnesium risers blow. The second one hurt me, I got rid of all of my Bear takedown stuff that week.

From: sheepdogreno
Date: 25-Apr-17




I bought this bow new from 3rivers last week...will be calling them tomorrow

From: BOHO
Date: 25-Apr-17




I'm sure they will make it good or Bear will. I had an appalachian flatbow that was shot 10 times. Took it in to put on string silencers and it blew up in my lap. sounded like a 12 gauge going off. I threw that pair of drawers away.

From: Newhunter
Date: 25-Apr-17




3 rivers will ask for a photo, 14 days after they will ask you to send the bow. Speed and service? Send the bow tomorrow.

From: sheepdogreno
Date: 25-Apr-17




Newhuntwr so your saying it will be 2 weeks before I get a replacement?

From: Newhunter
Date: 25-Apr-17




Don't know, what I have seen are slow or no service at all. Bigger companies tend to grow more bureaucratic by the years.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 25-Apr-17




There is no question they will fix it. Don't know why the word "should" is even used here. They have excellent warranties, and likely 3Rivers will send one out from there if you call and explain right away. Stuff happens. I had issues with a $24,000 dollar pickup truck back in 2003...they fixed that too. ))

From: sheepdogreno
Date: 25-Apr-17




George I'm with you on this! Yes I'm upset but at the same time I feel so confident in 3 rivers and bear that it will be resolved! I will shoot and love bear bows new and old. And I tell you what this new takedown I had was money!

From: Dry Bones
Date: 25-Apr-17




Sorry to see the new bow come apart. Yeah, I would have been pissed at the moment, but like the both of you said. Bear will correct their problem. Nothing ever made is bomb proof. Though I all to well understand about the cost of nicer things that quickly break. Keep shooting, and get a new one.

-Bones

From: sheepdogreno
Date: 25-Apr-17




Thanks bones I guess I didn't mean this thread to get to the point of bashing bear. Bc if you bash bear I'd tell you to broaden your horizons. Bear is a quality company and what happened to my bow is one out of a ridiculous amount produced. I've yet to see a limb failure on new limbs. Am I unlucky? Maybe? Do I understand things happen? Yes...if they don't make it right then all I said is gone to waste. But I know they will...dang guys I loved this bow and it felt like it was The one I hunted for my whole bow hunting career

From: Bob Rowlands
Date: 26-Apr-17




Neither Bear nor 3rivers is going to screw you over.

From: Smokin Joe Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 26-Apr-17




Bear will make it right.

The most important thing is that you were not injured.

I had the same thing happen with a set of custom Bear TD aftermarket limbs. It cut my eyebrow and cheek, but thankfully missed my eye.

From: Bushytail Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 26-Apr-17




My 1st trad bow was a PSE Impala t/d recurve. That happen to me on the top limb. Took it back to the shop where I bought it. They had extra limbs and replaced it. It shot fine afterwards. And got my 1st trad deer (doe) that year. I had Bear medallion issues. Bear replaced a couple that had fallen off and lost,(1 on a Montana, 1 on a Super Kodiak), no problems. Bear is good to deal with. You shouldn't have any problems.

From: westrayer
Date: 26-Apr-17




Looks like a bad glue-up that allowed the laminations to slip. Very uncommon, but it has happened. I suspect that every limb maker has had it happen at least a time or two. I had a set of Border Hex 6BB ILF limbs do the same thing once. Sid was great about making it right. I am sure that Bear and 3Rivers will do the same. The limb makers do not produce the glue, so once in a great while they have some bad glue or simply make a mistake when gluing the laminations. Unless you go to a mono-construction limb like a Uukha, it will happen somewhere along the line.

From: cyrille
Date: 26-Apr-17




It's a "Bear" what did you expect? IMO their quality of workmanship and customer service has gone to HADES since Mr. Fred passed. Now it's all about the "bottom line!"

From: Bearfingets
Date: 26-Apr-17




Bear might screw you over by sending you another defected bow.Try and get your money back and buy a hoyt or even a samick lol Sorry i have lost all faith in bears quality control.

From: stick33
Date: 26-Apr-17




What # limbs are you shooting? I've got an extra set of 45# #3 red tips I'd be willing to loan you for turkey season? You just cover shipping and send them back once you've killed your gobbler!

From: sheepdogreno
Date: 26-Apr-17




Thanks stick that is very generous of you...3 rivers said they will make it right. Sounds like I'm going to have to make the trip up there if I want to get it replaced before this weekend. Otherwise I'll have to pay shipping let tbem check it out and send a replacement

From: Newhunter
Date: 26-Apr-17




Make sure they have the set of limbs in store before you start driving.

From: Kevin Dill Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 26-Apr-17




Bob Morrison once told me..."Bows are like people. We all think they should have a long life. Some are going to die before their time."

It's a fact. Thousands and thousands of bows are built every year and very few ever suffer catastrophic failure. It's like a new set of tires and one blows apart. No manufacturing process is 100% fail-proof. You chalk it up to luck (NOT a bad company) and replace it. Life is good.

About 30 years ago I was at a big archery event with lots of great bowyers. Dave Guthrie (Appalachian Archery) was there with a fine selection of bows. Some guy randomly picked one up and drew it back. Wham!...pieces flying all over and guys diving for cover. Dave took it in stride saying "Darn...so THERE's the bow I was wondering about!"

From: Gvdocholiday
Date: 26-Apr-17




If your that close to 3Rivers I'd make the day trip. Maybe take the Mrs., Research a nice little restaurant on the way...

From: GLF
Date: 26-Apr-17




Consider it by percentages and.not numbers and you'll find bear has less failures than custom Bowers. It happens. Bear and every other manufacturer had more failures in the 60s n 70s than now. Heck bear replaced hundreds in 1963. Bad materials and bad glue happen. In 1985 Oneida replaced inboard limbs on every bow they made.

From: jk
Date: 26-Apr-17




Don't cut anybody any slack whatsoever. Ream them.

From: tecum-tha Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 26-Apr-17




It can also be a bad batch of glue. That is as possible as a human error in bow lay up. Could also be a "void" at the fadeout. There are a lot of problems gluing inflexible parts to flexible parts. That is the reason for always having an identical backup with the go to bows.

From: RymanCat
Date: 26-Apr-17




Be thankful this didn't haven when you drew down on the bird of your life and break. As long as you didn't get injured all is well. Hopefully they can provide fast service to get you patched up.

From: Linecutter
Date: 26-Apr-17




Those limbs must have been made by SAMICK, or some other Korean or Chinese made limbs! According to a lot of people on here, those are the only limbs to come apart like that. THAT NEVER happens to an American Made product. Yes I am being as Sarcastic as I can be.

In all seriousness that sucks! Especially since you were planning on hunting with it. They will make it right hopefully very quickly for you. DANNY

From: Grimesville Assassin
Date: 26-Apr-17




I know how you feel.I had a Brackenbury let go on the 3rd shot through it.Mine broke closer to the tip.Just one of those things!Don't let it bum you out,if you can help it.

From: jk
Date: 26-Apr-17




Yet another reason to only buy used bows.

From: Kodiak
Date: 26-Apr-17




They 'should' overnight them to you for free. I'm disappointed that they aren't.

Not cool!

From: Newhunter
Date: 26-Apr-17




Some tell they hear a little cracking sound from the limb when shooting the last arrows before the limb collapse? One told he was thinking it was from the mouse trap.

From: Adam Howard
Date: 26-Apr-17




Inexcusable !!

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 26-Apr-17




No one is making excuses.Theyll replace it

From: PECO
Date: 26-Apr-17




That is unfortunate. I am sure 3R and Bear will take care of you. For me though, it would be tough getting over the psychological part of it. I would be paranoid of the next set exploding.

From: MStyles
Date: 26-Apr-17




Sorry to hear of your new Bear. I've never had any of my bows ever fail like that. However, last year a friend asked me to pull his Osage selfbow back to my 28.5 draw. As I reached full draw, it blew, ka-blam! Like a 12 ga blast. It gave way about 1.5" above the riser. The upper limb cut my forehead and whacked my collarbone hard, the lower limb bruised two of my ribs. I was black and blue in spots, but walked away relatively unscathed. I felt bad for my friend because he had just finished working on the tiller. It's an experience you cannot prepare your self for.

From: stickbow21
Date: 26-Apr-17




That's sucks!!

I had a Hill Cheetah let go once. Not fun. Fell your pain.

From: sheepdogreno
Date: 26-Apr-17




I ended up making a call to bear themselves to see what they would do for me. After some conversation on the phone and through email it sounds like they are sending me a complete new bow asap. I demanded a new riser as well since I don't know what that damage may have done to the limb latches. They quickly got me return shipping emailed to me. Who knows if I'll get it by this weekend let alone soon enough to set it up and love one another...

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 26-Apr-17




How far is the drive to TRA?

From: jk
Date: 26-Apr-17




Darron, sounds good. You certainly shouldn't have to drive anywhere to replace that bow.

From: jk
Date: 26-Apr-17




...smart to bypass the retailer (TRA), they aren't to blame.

From: sheepdogreno
Date: 26-Apr-17




Well bear telling me now they have to make a new riser and a new set of limbs. This is disappointing bc I know the wait will be much longer now. I offered to be open to different limb weights near my range or a bubinga handle if that was available over the black maple however my offers are ignored and now I'm not getting much of an answer about turn around time either...owell at least they are making it right

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 26-Apr-17




Won't TRA exchange it? You'd have the bow for season.Ask for Dale Karch let them handle the return that's how Big Jim does it.You didn't say how far the drive was.

From: BSBD
Date: 26-Apr-17




I'm sure 3Rivers would send a replacement if they have one and then deal with Bear on their end.

From: hvac tech
Date: 26-Apr-17




Well i am positive bear will make it right no question asked .

From: Yellow Dog Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 26-Apr-17




Bear will take care of you on the limbs. Personal opinion, if you like the grip on the riser you have I'd give it a good looking over. Grips vary widely bow to bow on these and what you get in exchange might be nothing close to the grip you have on the current riser.

From: sheepdogreno
Date: 26-Apr-17




Bears customer service is out of this world! A new bow is on its way next day air

From: jk
Date: 26-Apr-17




No surprise. :-)

From: Dry Bones
Date: 26-Apr-17




GOOD to read. From no real answer to next day air. SA-WEET.

-Bones

From: David Mitchell Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 26-Apr-17




It isn't "inexcusable". Every maker of bows has breakage. Bear will treat you right as already shown. I get tired of the Bear bashing some folks like to come on here and do. 100% perfection is sort of hard to do.

From: Adam Howard
Date: 26-Apr-17




Sorry to upset you David , I've been on this site a looonnnggg time and have seen WAY to many issues with "production " Bear bows old and new, glad he wasn't hurt bad and happy he's being taken care of, BUT nothing has ever happened to ANY of my customs or me , there have been MANY, trust me , ALL built by ONE man with extreme attention to detail .....

From: hawkeye in PA
Date: 26-Apr-17




Glad you weren't hurt and its good of Bear to have a replacement coming your way on the "big bird". Maybe a good omen. I've had excellent service from Bear over the years. Best of luck. Jeff

From: David Mitchell Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 26-Apr-17




Not upset at all, Adam, it's just that I have had really nice custom bows break like that and seen those of others break as well. I've been on here a long time too and shooting bows and arrows for 61 years. Happens to every maker at some time or another. Bow makers who have never had a bow break I bet are few and very far between.

From: jk
Date: 26-Apr-17




Breakage of well-known "custom" bows has always been extremely rare.

From: sheepdogreno
Date: 26-Apr-17




The last thing I wanted to do was start a debate guy's and gals I just wanted to share what happened. I'm great full I didn't get hurt if I would have lost an eye I would have lost my career. I've been extremely pleased with every new bow I've had from bear and will continue to shoot them. The takedown blew me away instantly based on how well I shot it and we mixed. So I will continue to shoot a takedown and have plans to order different limbs in different weights. Stuff happens in any company but what shows a true companies colors is how they make it right. And bear is doing that right now. I will continue to update as this process goes on.

From: Kodiaktd
Date: 26-Apr-17




I had a Dick Robertson Montana Falcon's upper limb break on me right before I was to leave on a Colorado elk hunt back in the mid 1990s. I called Dick Robertson and told him what happened and he said to send him the limbs, which I did. He called me back about a week or so later and said he will be sending me new limbs at no charge. He didn't even charge me shipping. Which was great. The only down side was he couldn't get the new limbs made and sent to me by the time I was to leave for Colorado. Again no problem because I have other bows. I have seven Bear Takedowns from 1984 to 2016 and never had a problem with any of them. Sometimes stuff just happens and if you didn't get hurt and the company or bowyer makes thing right then all is good. :)

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 26-Apr-17




Cyrille I thought you missed a Bear thread I was wrong.lol ---> :)

From: Seahorse
Date: 26-Apr-17




You got the bow days ago for this weekend's hunt? You should have plenty of time to reorder a new one, build matching arrows, work out brace height, tune it up, break in the string, and practice until you're proficient with it, long before this weekend. LOL ;^P

From: N. Y. Yankee
Date: 27-Apr-17




Sorry for your loss. Even Cadillacs blow up from time to time.

From: fdp
Date: 27-Apr-17




I had a Martin Hunter blow up in the '90's. I called the folks at Martin, talked with them, in days I had a new one setting on the porch.





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