From: Cameron Root
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Date: 22-Apr-17 |
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Great limbs. You never know what shape your going to get. Make your own conclusion on Bears consistency. These limbs were built one month apart. Dec 2016 and Jan 2017. Rooty
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From: camodave
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Date: 22-Apr-17 |
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No different than many years ago. Different bowyers doing hand shaping on different days gives different results. Great Illustration of that Rooty. Thanks.
DDave
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 22-Apr-17 |
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Multiple bowyers working on multiple bows. I've seen some vintage bows that were like that as well. I think Pearson at one time had near forty people or more shaping bows.
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From: mgerard
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Date: 22-Apr-17 |
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How do they shoot?
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 22-Apr-17 |
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They shoot excellent. Most of us think there would be templates used for consistency. I like them a lot. Rooty
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From: GLF
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Date: 22-Apr-17 |
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I saw that same thing on 2 Howatt hunters back in 1979. I had a friend draw them while I wanted. They both looked the same at full draw. I bought the one with the narrower recurves and tips. I figured since they both drew the same and looked the same at full draw that since not all wood is equal that that sort of thing might have to be done to keep the limbs bending the way they're meant to.
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From: David Mitchell
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Date: 22-Apr-17 |
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So Bear bows are not "machine produced" as many think. They use the same machines that "custom" bow makers use and do lots of hand shaping and sanding as well. I like the fact that they are not cookie cutter products.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 22-Apr-17 |
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I think that if they are the same weight, or close, it shows that wood laminates can vary in strength even with the same tapers. If they were trying to hit weights, then that could be the difference. If you were working with foam cores that are of synthetic makeup, then likely you could get closer profiles. I don't know for sure, but I chalk it up to the vagaries of the wood laminations.
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From: vintage-bears
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Date: 22-Apr-17 |
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Curious...... Are those 2 "separate" sets of limbs the same weight and length?
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From: Kodiaktd
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Date: 22-Apr-17 |
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Same here. Both limbs are marked 60@28", but on my scale the limbs on the left were 61#@28", and on the right were 60#@28". Both are smooth drawing and cast my cedar arrows quick. I don't have a chronograph to know the exact speed. No complaints here.
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 22-Apr-17 |
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Probably a change for the new year.The tips are getting much nicer.
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 22-Apr-17 |
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I ordered #1 60 both times. I got 60# for B and 58 for B. First set scales almost 3 # heavy. Second set just under. As it turns out for the good I am enjoying the variance on different risers. Rooty
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 22-Apr-17 |
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Great looking limbs. Kodiacktd. I have a set of bady D's headed for tone of these. Rooty
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From: camodave
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Date: 22-Apr-17 |
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As Rooty's official interpreter I have no idea what that last sentence is supposed to mean. Other than once again word correct software is a pain in the butt.
DDave
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From: camodave
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Date: 22-Apr-17 |
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And we know how good those can look. Weather is not cooperating for outdoor pictures of mine. Forecasting snow and from the look and feel of things they are bang on.
DDave
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From: jeff w
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Date: 22-Apr-17 |
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I have several sets of Bear TD limbs. One set is noticeably narrower than the others. Of the sets, they all shoot well, and the poundages were accurate. For whatever reason, the narrower limbs have become my favorites. It really doesn't bother me there are differences in shape. As others have stated, different people working on the bows and limbs will result in some variation.
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 22-Apr-17 |
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I like the limbs but I don't give Bear a pass on this. Customers new Archery will buy off what they see there buddy's have. When they get something that much different no way. Come on Bear tighten it up.i named this post custom Red tip custom as if I ordered them this way. If a company gets to be known for who knows what you get. I would look elsewhere as a new buyer. For me I like the surprise but that's not for everyone. Rooty
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 22-Apr-17 |
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More drying before the crisp edge then true-oil. Thunderbird would be better if I was set up for it. Rooty
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From: Kodiaktd
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Date: 22-Apr-17 |
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Them snake skin limbs look good.
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From: Orion
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Date: 22-Apr-17 |
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That's a pretty big difference. I have five sets of older limbs and I don't see that big of a width difference. They're all pretty consistent, in fact, on width. They do vary in length though as much as 5/8 inches from the longest set to the shortest set, all no. 1s.
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 22-Apr-17 |
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Orion I agree. That's not acceptable to the public. Again I really like the limbs. Rooty
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 23-Apr-17 |
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Almost done. Couple more coats and let them cure for a few days. Rooty
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 23-Apr-17 |
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I left room for a spring arm quiver. Rooty
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 23-Apr-17 |
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I still say it's a year end change going by your manufacture date.
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 23-Apr-17 |
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BTW are you sure it's a "baby" snake? Looks like 1 eastern Diamondback and 1 western Diamondback.
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 23-Apr-17 |
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True oil finger applied is a good way for the diy like me. I use to air brush and thunder bird is the ultimate.
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 23-Apr-17 |
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You think they went fatter for 2017 ? I am no skin expert. They look the same to me. Rooty
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 23-Apr-17 |
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Fat limbs are 2017. Like the width of several green tips that I've had. Rooty
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From: hvac tech
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Date: 23-Apr-17 |
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Rooty did you lightly sandthe limbs before the snake skin was applied . they look nice
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 23-Apr-17 |
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No I giver shet with 100 grit lol. Rooty
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From: Jeff Durnell
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Date: 23-Apr-17 |
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Width differences are due to that danged inconsistent maple :^)
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From: hvac tech
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Date: 23-Apr-17 |
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wow that will take the finish of then
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From: cyrille
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Date: 23-Apr-17 |
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Yeah that's Bear for ya consistency ain't in their lexicon!
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 23-Apr-17 |
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Just roughed up. Tite bond needs a surface to grab.i have been schooled by James Rempp and Neil Jacobson on that. Here's Neil's limbs that I did. Rooty
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 23-Apr-17 |
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Self Bows need bare wood. Rooty
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 23-Apr-17 |
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Probably didn't go fatter just probably a new tip man in the new year.
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 23-Apr-17 |
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I don't mind them. There not slow by any means and most likely more stable. They just need to pick. Rooty
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 23-Apr-17 |
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I do a fine line of super glue on the ends. Rooty
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From: camodave
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Date: 23-Apr-17 |
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Nice work Rooty.
DDave
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From: Kodiak
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Date: 24-Apr-17 |
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Man, love those thin ones. The bowyer that shaped them was having a very good day.
Skins look great.
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From: stick33
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Date: 24-Apr-17 |
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I've had 3-4 of the newer red tips in varying weights. One set was exceptionally narrow w/ small tips. It was a 35# set. The other 45# sets only varied slightly. All were/are good shooting limbs.
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From: David Mitchell
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Date: 26-Apr-17 |
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cyrille, your dislike for Bear has been well documented on several threads. Lots of us love Bear products and that's why they sell so many bows. In fact, I used to own a variety of custom recurves, but on my rack now there are only three curves--all three are Bears, and all three were made in the last three years--fine bows with fine craftsmanship.
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