how do you guys tie your nock points? ive been using a method i got off youtube (unsure what its called) for couple years and it seems like im always retying them bc they come loose or move. i want a tied nock i dont like brass nocks. thanks in advance

There's many ways to tie them but I tie mine like I am snelling a hook and pull both tag ends that sinch it in the middle. You don't want them that tight that it could cut into the serving and you want them to be adjustable so you can move them a little.

After I have set and I know this is what the possition seems best at I will take a dab of Crazy glue to keep set. Just enough that I can break at any time to reset if I need to. Hard for me to explain how much glue its a feel type of thing if ya know what I mean. Hope this helps ya.

I use a surgeons knot followed by a series of overhand knots then a surgeon and burn the ends. I use serving thread.

I use the knot like Ryman Cat. I do not use any glue just pull it super tight after I fine the correct spot. I worry the glue could seep under the serving and having a bad affect on the string body. If one uses just a little glue little chance that it will happen but, with my luck and Murphy's Law well you know.

Nail knot, and clear fingernail polish.

Rick

Rick

thx for the vid rick. my nock has been moving I think this will deff help...opr8r

Great video Rick! Learn something new everyday :^)

Melting the tags ends helps prevent unraveling. I leave about 1/4 tag ends, light them on fire and blow them out when the fire reaches the knot. The remainder will be molten and you can squeeze it against the knot. You could use the bolster of a knife to press it down. Or just use your finger and take the pain, if any. - lbg

thanks for all the tips everyone...i melt the tag ends as well but never fails they eventually break away

rick im trying that tie next! looks solid

Lately I have been using Florescent Orange nylon crocheting thread for my nocking points. I'm tying it on this same way.

It's a little smaller than the Diamondback serving material, but is working great, and is highly visible, which is wonderful for my old eyes in low light conditions.

Rick

I use B50 with a constricter or double constricter, clip and melt the tag ends. Go to "animated knots",lots on there and very clear how to do them. JF

A Uni Knot is a version of a hangman's noose...I started out using as a fishing line knot and now I use it for a lot of things including tie-on nock points...my preferred tie on nock points are still done by Rooty but he is not always available

DDave

Great video Rick.

thanks Rick for the leasan

Rick, what size nylon crocheting thread are you using? 18? Thanks.

Reviving an old thread!

Thank you Rick for the tutorial video.

I've wanted to switch all my nocks over to tie on style and was looking for the easiest and most elegant solution. This is it!

Appreciate you taking the time make and post that.

Aloha,

Bobby B

Yes that was great. Now I finally know how to ttie a nocking point.Thanks Rick

Yes that was great. Now I finally know how to ttie a nocking point.Thanks Rick

Depends on what you want. I have no desire for adjust ability once I have established the Spot during tuning. Surgeons knot with a dab of nail polish to lock it in tight.

Stick a small amount of fletching glue on them to keep them from unraveling. I put some glue on my finger, then the dental floss nock point to keep the glue off the string. Works for me. If a small enough is used, I can still untie the nocking point if it needs to be changed later.

I use dental floss, wax and a match. Don't know the name of the knot but it holds well. After I tie the knot I coat with wax and hold a match under the knot to melt the wax in. Careful with this procedure. Been doing it this way for 50 years with no problems. When the knot gets frayed a little I just add more wax and hold a match under it to melt the wax in.

I use ricks method or a standard whip tie. I've had the most success with a thicker "Nock tying thread" rather than serving thread. Mine do come loose....I have needed to adjust. I have had them cut into the serving before

I recently found Crazy Glue that applies with a brush. It works great.

DDave

I've been using dental floss for decades now. I like the small diameter strand and it locks tight to the string, and it's cheap and that fits me to a T. And, it will melt with relatively low heat so you don't need to slop glue on it at all. I have it in my fanny pack and also in my back quiver.

I use B50. I keep tying overhand knots all the way around the circumference until the nock point is large enough. Then I put on a little Duco to keep it together but not so that is soaks into the string. Jawge

I do not remember where I got that method but have used it for a few years. There is sone leeway adjustment with it but I don't bother as I don't set the nock point on one of my bows until I am sure where I want it.

Until then I wind on a few turns of 1/4" strip of electrician's tape. Jawge

Ricks method

Mine are just like Rick's, just different material. I can put a nock set on in less than two minutes.

Mr Stout,

So you tie whip knots like Rick with Floss? The overland knots method does work, but you have to be pretty sure you aren't going to adjust.

I make mine as Jawge does with overhand knots every turn, then finish with a square knot and melt the ends. Don't need glue and I just eyeball the location with an arrow on the string. No rest on my bows.

I use serving string that I run across a glue stick several times, after that just about any type knot will hold

dental floss tie a double overhand pull it tight, then tie a double overhand on the opposite side. repeat until you get it build up to your desired thickness then finish off with a 3 twist improved cinch knot and a lighter.... works for me

braided fishing line . One day I will make a bow string from it . Tough stuff

I use brass nocking points. They are simple and perfect. Love them !!!

I do like jawdge.

Brass is hazardous with my anchor! I clip my nose from time to time. I also made the error of shooting one of my 60# without an arm guard with brass on it. My arm go into the string and it wasn't pretty :)

I tie all of mine now

I'll stick with my simple constrictor knot, made with B50. Quick and easy and small. JF

I dont tie knocks, i use 1/4" masking tape. The white is a quick reference point and its easy to remove in case of a different configuration setup.

Here is how I tie mine on. Not better than anyone else's, jsut what I do:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-htegFSyps

I saw Rick's video several years ago and found his way was the easiest for me to remember .I have really liked this method and so simple .Yes there are other ways to skin a cat but for me I will always use Rick's method. Thank you once again Rick Barbee for showing us that video.

I tie them on using Ryan Sanpei way. I tie two on and they work very well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgk0y4WFRK0

The crochet thread Rick mentioned comes in quite a few sizes.Largest I saw at Wally World yesterday was #3.With this stuff the smaller the # the larger the diameter.I have some 30Lb Cortland Micron backing I'm going to try.It's thinner than #3 crochet thread but thicker than nylon serving.Should work well and perhaps more durable than crochet thread.

Yep, Ryan's method is my go-to tied on nock. Never tried Rick's method. Will have to give it a try.

Time to bring this to the top! Two things I use on every string I make is two tie on nocks that I have learned from Rick and the puff method he has made for string silencers. Thanks once again Rick I always liked your teaching methods you share so unselfishly.To those who haven't tried a tie on I can testify once I got the hang of it I never use a brass nock plus you can turn the nock up or down when tuning!

Try strands off your old strings works pretty good.

There’s so many different ways to tie on a nockset and all of them work well, I suppose. Here’s the way I’ve done it forever, it seems. It’s simple, quick and durable. I simply just “serve” a nockset on.

1) I mark the place on the string where I need the nock set with whiteout or masking tape.

2. I cut a piece of #4 nylon serving about 10” long; form a loop, and lay it on the string. Always put the loop toward the upper limb for the top nockset; toward the bottom limb for the lower nockset.

3. I take one strand and go around the string and the other strand, 5 times.

4. Push that end through the loop, and pull each end tight.

5. Trim and burn with lighter.

The good part is you can literally screw the nockset up or down the serving for fine-tuning.

I’ve never had one come loose or fail to last the life of the string.

Rick that is the uni knot used on bobber stops to adjust the bobber up and down on the line when fishing.Works great in either case.I use that knot to make taperleaders for fly rodding.Good video.

Bassman instead of making tapered leaders I just buy a tapered leader and clip off the tippet section.Next I tie a loop on both ends of the leader and the tippet then join the loops.I tie a heavy butt section with a loop on the end to the fly line with a nail knot.Quick'n easy.I got this method from Lefty Kreh's book Advanced Fly Fishing Techniques.

I've tied hundreds of tapered leaders for fly fishing. I actually prefer the double surgeons knot for the tapered section knots and then use perfections loops on the butt end and use a dbl surgeons knot for attaching tippet as well. I've used the dbl surgeons knot for nock sets also and it worked well.

Rick and Jim's method is great and easy to remember. I like the Hawaiian's method(can't think of his name) but it is more complicated and harder to remember.>>>----> Ken

Been using Rick Barbers method for years, I shoot a lot of competitive archery( won NFAA Nationals outdoor target last year) and Ricks nocking points allow me to fine tune and still lock in when It’s right. Will never use anything else. Arrowchucker out

Rick's video was very helpful to me. I recently used the technique Tim Golder shows in the attached video. Instruction starts at the 8:20 mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4nvTjmvn98

I have good luck with Jim's method but I use waxed dental tape, tie one end to the serving with a clinch knot, trim the end, make 5 wraps before I lay the loop on, make 5 more wraps. Smooth, holds up well, adjusts if needed, easy to remove.

I wanted to bring this back up to the top. Great info.

The knot Jim has above appears to be an Albright. Works better than most anything else Ive tried. Nail knot / tube knot works very well also. All three are much more tidy than the series of double overhand knots which turn into a big blob.

I like the one Rick B uses, didn't realize it is same as I use slip corking .

Thanks for bringing this thread back up. Some very helpful tips

Bjrogg

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