Shot was about 15-18 yards, 63# hybrid longbow, 665grain arrow tipped with a tuffhead 225grain with 100grain steel insert.

Arrow hit in the soft part of the pocket, behind the right front leg, cut the rib and pierced the heart exiting the off foreleg about 8-9 inches.

He was dead on his feet, spun to his left after the hit, ran about 30 yards then staggered and walked about 80 yards like a drunkard, he was fighting the effects of the broadhead, spinning & bucking, falling down then get back up.

Finally flipping over backwards doing the High-o-Silver.

The arrow had backed out after he snapped it off, I got about 24 inches of penetration, yet I did not want to touch the arrow, as thats the way he died.

King congratulations ……. great description of the kill….I had to look twice to determine if that was a tusk or a cigar in it's mouth…LOL... nice job

Joe Furlong

" S " in his heart...... brought to you by TUFFHEAD.

lol, Joe, you can bet I smoked a good cigar for this boar, also had a sip of some single malt.....

He had almost 2" thick shield.

I always try to shoot for the top of the heart where the lungs & heart all come together, if you hit anything in that spot their down quick.

However I don't always hit the exact spot I want..... and that's when your equipment will be tested, this hit went just a tad forward on this sow.

NOT ALL BROADHEADS ARE EQUAL: Having the requisite qualities, such as strength or ability, for a task or situation:

Thank God we have lot's to choose from, careful though, "some only catch hunters" I'm glad I had one that was up to the task.

The Tuffhead not only went through the humerus leg bone, it also cut the near rib in two, cut both lungs ( yes, that's a double lung shot ) and cut the off side rib and exited with a 3 inch wide wound.

I have boned the leg out, and have it on top of the carcase.

That is impressive damage !

This is the back side of the leg bone, it blew off a big chunk of bone.

This is whats behind the humerus leg bone..... double lungs.

Exit ho........after going through the leg bone, 2 ribs & lungs.

The question you have to ask your self is; if your arrow broadhead combo hit this spot, can it get through it consistently?

This is a pic I took from the video I shot of him, as he was staggering down hill.

You can see the arrow & Tuffhead on his exit side.

Congratulations on your hunt.

great thread!. its like Biology class on pigs! I love it... now I am strangly craving ribs and fried bacon... hmm bacon. can we see a pic of a clean Tough head?

nice description and good job on the autopsy. Congrats on another fine Cali boar

Very good. Always look forward to Kings post . How much FOC ?

Looks like that knife cut through the shield pretty handily! Sharp Knife!

Good pics and good kill, KWB!

Well done, King!

"However I don't always hit the exact spot I want....."

Sage advice.

He died like a true warrior.

Excellent pix. Also some real life experience on the results of a slightly off target shot. They happen. As you point out, arrow construction (and perhaps bow weight) can go a long way toward compensating. Well done.

I am not sure squeamish types should be hunting. LOL

Thanks Guys.

" MStyles: He died like a true warrior. " Very true my friend, that is the same thing as I thought, he was a bad dude & would not go down with out a fight.

" oldgoat: How much FOC ?" Right around the 30-31%

My freezer is usually full of pork, and I love to hunt big boars, the hunting in California has been tough with the drought going on 4 years now. I have seen vary few piglets this year, the sows look skinny, yet the boars look healthy ( I think the boars will kill stuff if they get the chance, wear-as the sow don't ).

A face only a mother could love........ well and me.

Right at the tip of the arrow you can see where the tip of the broadhead hit the bone, I think it "POPPED" the leg-bone in the first quarter inch, then blew a big chunk off the back side of the leg-bone as it passed through.

The broadhead was still sharp with "ZERO" roll over on the edges, I could of washed it off and hunted with it, however I would not, I like a finely honed edge, but the edge durability was outstanding.

I have to thank Joe Furlong of Tuffhead for investing in the Doctor Ed Ashby study, and incorporating as much as possible into his broadhead design.

Rarely, if ever, does a broadhead live up to the hardcore demands with out a failure, the Tuffhead is the new benchmark of what one can expect, from a quality broadhead.

What is a dirt nap?

Taking a dirt nap...... means to be dead.

It also comes from motocross, when someone gets knocked out, they look like they are taking a nap in the dirt.

Thus little blackies taking a dirt nap.........

That is awesome. Congrats.

Fine thread. Great pics and informative pig Biology 101. Thanks for posting.

great hog, great story, great shot :-)

Great pig ! They aren't as difficult to kill as folks belive, but GOSH are they tough. What would kill most animals in seconds, takes many minutes (distance) to kill a tough ol' pig. Congratulations.

Good stuff. Kinda hard to deny the advantage of a superior broadhead/arrow combo. When a broadhead will pop open heavy round bone, keep on trucking to cut up vital organs, and keep on trucking to exit such a heavily built animal, it kinda speaks for itself. A Great broadhead and a well built arrow sure lends to favorable results in those situations.

Good shooting, congratulations, and God Bless

Good job King. Been waiting on a hunting tale or two from out west. Been fishing a lot myself but hope to hunt some next week. RC

What a great thread and detailed pics and a good hunt too!!

by gawd you smoked that pig ,let the air outta him ,and he took a dirt nap.

This is beyond hunting as always with you King, we see the guts of the hog but some of us,Me, would like to see the Guts of the arrow. Please.

Skewered and laid the smack down.

Can't add anything that hasn't been said other than, Thanks for sharing!

Congrats!!

Always enjoy your posts. Great shot on a nice hog. What are the details of fletching on those arrows?

Looks like A&A fletching.

Great Hawg Kingbe. I'm going to see if I can find some fake tusk that long to spruce up my pictures of these Georgia pigs.lol

dm/wolfskin, "Great Hawg Kingbe. I'm going to see if I can find some fake tusk that long to spruce up my pictures of these Georgia pigs.lol"

I was able to get my son over to Santa Cruz Island just before they eradicated all of the pigs on the Islands. He found a real nice boar skull and the tusk just came right out and he put them in his pocket, He's around 14-15 in this pic's.

After he shot this sow, I said put those tusk in her mouth..... she looks like an African bush pig.......

so, don't do it Mike, I'm hip to your tricks.....lol

And he shot this one, this year...... those are real tusk..... CHOMPERS BABY

"Oldgoat; This is beyond hunting as always with you King, we see the guts of the hog but some of us, Me, would like to see the Guts of the arrow. Please."

The guts of my arrow are: GT ultralight 30" 2-3" 2117 footing, Tuffhead 225/300 with a 100/125 steel adapter, I use the aluminum insert that comes with the arrow, ( I have used brass ) I have to show you the pic of the aluminum insert breaking in-two, inside the shaft, it was while Little Blackie was doing the watoosey. ( The arrow had already exited his side, so the failure was after the shot).

I like a reflective rap ( aids in arrow recovery ) 4x2" A&A Fletch ( A&A ) stands for Adcock & Ashby, they dreamed it up and I tested it, it works on high EFOC arrows like a charm.

I also had a lighted nock on this arrow ( I can not believe how cool it is to see a light trail streak into his heart ) may not be for every one..... but I digit )

I give up a little EFOC using 4 Fletch, a rap & a lighted nock..... the beautiful thing about Doc Ashby's stuff is use what you want..... there is NO DOWN side... only gain.

Total arrow weight was 665 grains with 30-31% EFOC

Great post...great job.

This arrow has 4" of footing but I only use 2-3' now

You can still see the lighted nock is lit, the arrow was all the way to the white strip on the shaft, about 24" of penetration, but when he was fighting going down, he broke off the Tuffhead and the shaft started to back out.

I did not want to push it back in or pull it out.

Good stuff....

Thanks , Dave, I am using the footing,steel insert,an A&A fletching. The 100 brass insert is chucked in drill and just a little filling and the footing will go all the way to broadhead base over the insert head. I am trying CX Blue Streaks an having a fit with this Dual spine stuff. You've been very helpful. Thanks.

Toe.... look above bro...... 2117 is a perfect fit, 2216 to loose. A 2315, 2317 fits perfict over the 2117, I think I'm going to do a 1/2- 1 inch footing over the 2117.

Oldgoat, the dual spine is, you are stiffening & adding point weight wich weakens it. I find the point weight with carbons is vary wide, I can add 50 grains with a high EFOC arrow and it still bare shaft right down the tube.

I like to put all of my component together on the front end, glued it all up, bare shaft tuning, cutting from the nock end, works like a charm.

Yes sir I put everything up front that I want to shot and trim firm knock end , same here on carbon being weight torrent on the front end. Still there dual spine trimming from knock end want change then I take off 1/8" more and to stiff.

Kingwouldbe.

I know a little about the mechanics and biomechanics of fracture generation and the forces requred to generate specific fracture characteristics. I have to say, the pictures you posted of the Humeral comminuted fracture is very very impressive. The "butterfly" fragment in your photograph is only generated by a very high impact forces. (>2000n)

Great thread ... thanks for posting

Congrates great expination of hunt with pics

" Phil Kingwouldbe.

I know a little about the mechanics and biomechanics of fracture generation and the forces requred to generate specific fracture characteristics. I have to say, the pictures you posted of the Humeral comminuted fracture is very very impressive. The "butterfly" fragment in your photograph is only generated by a very high impact forces. (>2000n)

Great thread ... thanks for posting "

OK Phil, you got to come clean, whats your background? talk to me, I'm all ears, what do you see & how can you tell, what do you think of the chip off of the back ( it is also in two pieces only held together my some fiber ) as I'm sure you already know, the knuckle is all honeycombed as I look inside.

Hi Kingwouldbe

I'll try and explain why I was so impressed with your photographs, but first a little bit of skeletal anatomy and osseous pyhsiology if I may. The "knuckle" or Epiphysis you mention is the rounded head which fits into a socket (acetabulum) that forms a joint in the leg of your hog. The honeycomb you mention is the trabeculea of the cancellous bone, a softer type of bone structure which is inside the harder outer cortical hard bone. (Now the biomechanics part).

You have to remember that your hog was standing up and fully weight bearing when the arrow the arrow hit, so the bone was under compresson and all the leg joints were in a congruent loaded position, essentially making the structure stronger. Your arrow hit the leg just below the transition part of the bone shaft and the epiphysial condyle, possibly the stronest part of the bone. When your arrow hit the bone, it set up a classic 3 point bending moment within the bone. Both ends of the bone were fixed in their joints and the force of your arrow bent the bone like a bent bow. In 3 point bending fractures, the force generated at a single point on one side of the bone is greater than the reaction force on the opposite side of the stable ends of the bone, so the bone begins to bend. Just like a bow bending, the bending bone on the inside curve is under compression and the bone on the outside of the curve is in extension. When the extension force experienced on the outside curve of the bone exceeded it's elastic modulus, a crack propogates from the internal application of the force, which in your case was your arrow. So the bone on the opposite side of the point of impact essentially explodes.

So why was I so impressed with your photographs .... well ... you hit the bone in possibly the strongest area. The bone is quite short where you hit with thick cortical walls , so the bending moments generated will be small, but the force required to bend the bone will be very high. To apply a force to propogate a butterfly comminuted fracture of that quality is no mean feat.

Hope this helps .... and my background ? .. I'm head of research for a European medical research company.

good job looks like fun

Small mistake ... when I said "a crack propogates from the internal application of the force," I should have typed a crack propogates TO the internal application of the force,.... sorry guys my mistake

Cool! I actually kind of understood that. Thanks Phil. Nice to know some of the theory/science behind what we do for fun.

" Phil,

Hi Kingwouldbe

I'll try and explain why I was so impressed with your photographs, but first a little bit of skeletal anatomy and osseous pyhsiology if I may. The "knuckle" or Epiphysis you mention is the rounded head which fits into a socket (acetabulum) that forms a joint in the leg of your hog. The honeycomb you mention is the trabeculea of the cancellous bone, a softer type of bone structure which is inside the harder outer cortical hard bone. (Now the biomechanics part).

You have to remember that your hog was standing up and fully weight bearing when the arrow the arrow hit, so the bone was under compresson and all the leg joints were in a congruent loaded position, essentially making the structure stronger. Your arrow hit the leg just below the transition part of the bone shaft and the epiphysial condyle, possibly the stronest part of the bone. When your arrow hit the bone, it set up a classic 3 point bending moment within the bone. Both ends of the bone were fixed in their joints and the force of your arrow bent the bone like a bent bow. In 3 point bending fractures, the force generated at a single point on one side of the bone is greater than the reaction force on the opposite side of the stable ends of the bone, so the bone begins to bend. Just like a bow bending, the bending bone on the inside curve is under compression and the bone on the outside of the curve is in extension. When the extension force experienced on the outside curve of the bone exceeded it's elastic modulus, a crack propogates from the internal application of the force, which in your case was your arrow. So the bone on the opposite side of the point of impact essentially explodes.

So why was I so impressed with your photographs .... well ... you hit the bone in possibly the strongest area. The bone is quite short where you hit with thick cortical walls , so the bending moments generated will be small, but the force required to bend the bone will be very high. To apply a force to propogate a butterfly comminuted fracture of that quality is no mean feat.

Hope this helps .... and my background ? .. I'm head of research for a European medical research company.

Small mistake ... when I said "a crack propogates from the internal application of the force," I should have typed a crack propogates TO the internal application of the force,.... sorry guys my mistake."

Phil, That was so outstanding, I had to read it a few times, I think I'll read it again just for fun.

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you,

Thanks men, you all are great, I would think that Dr. Ashby might want to see this , I feel sure I will be getting some Tuffheads to try ,little heavier that my 175 single beveled.

Sorry for the mistake Sapcut ... I'll try harder next time :)

David .. thank you for the PM .. much appreciated

Great story....yeah my hog in February fought to the bitter end even when he could not move and was pretty much dead he still tried to bite us. Love the tenacity of those old wise and experienced boars...

keep em sharp,

ron herman

Say what Phil?

Phil.., I was thinking that exactly.

KWB, you did it again. My respect bro.

I wonder where king went? I miss reading all his stuff.

Kingwouldbe, I would like your opinion on the cutthroat broadheads. Have you used them, or what do you think of them. I bought the 190 left single edge. I will be only hunting whitetails in Ks. thanks for any input you give. Pip

Good job Old Man!!! Enjoyed it. RC

Congrats, nice job!

nice! You guys and your hog hunting pics! I really need to add a few to my game animals taken with a bow. maybe this winter.

Congratulations.

An absolutely awesome post, love it.

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