From: Turkish
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Date: 13-Aug-09 |
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When shooting a longbow, or any tarditional bow, does eye dominance matter? Since you are shooting instinctive; e.g not looking at the arrow but the target, does eye dominace ocme into play? I'm left eye dominant, but my right eye is also strong (double vision when pointing). My shooting is accurate and I soot right handed, but does eye dominace have any value in instictive archery?
Cheers
PS I shoot a Scythain bow and I'm currently learning the thumbring technique.
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From: SteveOz
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Date: 13-Aug-09 |
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old argument, look up on the search function, you will find lots of opinions. Mine would be that it does come into play, but can be overcome by practice.
oz
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From: lonewolf
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Date: 13-Aug-09 |
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think for a moment, why is it called dominent at all? what is it dominating?Iwould suggest it is dominating the other eye,so why have two?why not just have one?and why have them at the front? more use on the side dont you think, perhaps its to do with preditor and pray,eyes at the front to judge distance, eyes at the side to see you comeing,most people I know with right dominent eye hold there bow in left hand and when the hand is pointing where the eye is looking, pop, we make the shot.been pointing my hand at things for so long now dont give it much thought.
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From: panther bone
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Date: 13-Aug-09 |
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I say no, it does not necessarily come into play. I am right eye dom., but left- handed (actually I am left sided...lol), and shoot left-handed as well. Tried shooting right handed with low poundage bows, and could not. The only instance in which it would determine your accuracy to the point of being detrimental would be, if you were aiming directly down your arrow and alleviating any focus on the target with the other eye. This is hard to do with both eyes open anyhow.
When you shoot with both eyes open, you are leaving a blind spot between both eyes (i.e., both eyes can not manage direct linear focus...one eye to the left and one to the right essentially). The brain makes up for this blind spot by its own instinctive calculations.
Now, when I first started shooting I tried Asbell's method(s). Some days good, some days not. Then, I tried squinting my right eye. I shot worse with the latter method, because I was not allowing my brain to fully calculate that 'blind spot.' This told me that the problem with the Asbell method is that it is just really painstaking, and takes lots of practice...which is a good thing;0) Thirdly, I tried shooting, while allowing both eyes to be open and naturally direct their own line of sight (e.g., one eye seeing the arrow and the other seeing the target). I went from around a 160 on the 3D to a 230 average score (within the first two months of my shooting!). I don't aim with the arrow, and never estimate yardage. I use a tripartite aiming system (the bow hand!!!!!!!; the left eye and right eye 'blurring' together the target and arrow...allowing the brain to bring all these together). This works for me.
JMHO!!!!!!!!!! Grace and Peace guys.
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From: REB
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Date: 13-Aug-09 |
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I am nearly blind in my left eye, Im told that this realy meses with your depth distance perseption, other than that I dont notice a problem REB
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From: Turkish
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Date: 13-Aug-09 |
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I aim by just looking at the spot I want to hit, and I release when it feels right, if that makes sense. It feels like a sixth sense in a way.
Is that insticntive shooting?
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From: FRJ
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Date: 13-Aug-09 |
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I am left handed and shoot left handed. 8 Months ago I lost the sight in the center of my left eye. I always shot instinctively and shot well. After the loss of my eye I was shooting some arrows to the right about 10inches at 20yrds. I realized that what was happening is that in the past it didn't matter if I saw the arrow or not since it was directly below my left eye. Now with my right eye dominant if I see the arrow my brain was correcting my shot and moving my bow arm to the right. All it took was my really focussing on the spot and the problem was gone but if I get sloppy and don't focus WHAM there it goes to the right. FRJ
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From: jojotater
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Date: 14-Aug-09 |
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I'm right handed, left eye dominant. I shoot everything left handed except for my bows. I tried a left handed bow for awhile, and it was no fun at all--I just didn't like it, and I didn't care to shoot every day as I normally do.
When I shoot right handed, I don't aim my arrow, just shoot instinctively. I like it much better, and I shoot fairly well this way. It feels better. I have an average group of about 6 inches at 20 yards, would be a lot better, but I get the occasional signal from Mars that pulls at my arrow.
I believe people handle this differently, but shooting right handed is much more enjoyable for me, and that is why I shoot a bow in the first place.
If you can, test both ways; see what is best for you.
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From: farcher
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Date: 17-Aug-09 |
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If you shoot instinctive with both eyes open looking at your spot I don't think it matters.I am right handed and left eye dominant and I have lots of friends that changed right to left to get rid of target panic.There was an artical in Traditional Bow Hunter by John Vargo When left is right.
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From: swampwalker
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Date: 19-Aug-09 |
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If you shoot instinctively, eye dominance doesn't come into play.
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From: SavageJesse
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Date: 19-Aug-09 |
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"I aim by just looking at the spot I want to hit, and I release when it feels right, if that makes sense. It feels like a sixth sense in a way.
Is that insticntive shooting?" Yes, and eye dominance won't matter.
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From: Jack Whitmrie jr
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Date: 19-Aug-09 |
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I like you am right handed but left eye dominant. I shot almost 20 years Right handed, then changed to left. Best thing you can do as a instinctive archer IMO is to shoot with your dominant eye.
Jack
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From: dean
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Date: 19-Aug-09 |
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When shooting right handed the double vision arrow on the left is the real one. when shooting left handed the double of the right arrow is the real one. Even if one holds back stares at the target until it feels right, your head is doing the same math as one who does indirect aiming. No one has that kind of tunnel vision, that cannot see the arrow. It is a matter of how much conscious acknowledgment one gives to what the eyes see. As a snap shooter I can instantly see left or right handed how far I am going to miss in my indirect vision, the trick is to correct it before you let go. John Schulz refers to it as conditioned instinct, something you've seen so often that it becomes automatic. Much like the first time you drove a car or motorcycle, in few weeks of practice it seems instinctive, but perhaps it is just a conditioned reflex of familiar moves.
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From: Dugga Bull
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Date: 19-Aug-09 |
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The one thing almost nobody talks about is the fact that there are different degrees of dominance. A strong eye dominance, even if you are cross dominant is easier to compensate for than; if you don't have as strong of a difference.
The most important thing; is to know your body and how it affects your shooting! Mind/body consciousness.
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From: 3Ditional
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Date: 19-Aug-09 |
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Turkish, I shoot like you too with no problems. Maybe for some, it would be better to switch.
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From: flatshooter
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Date: 20-Aug-09 |
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In the matter of instinctive shooting, eye dominance is not a factor! So says Jay Kidwell, INSTINCTIVE ARCHERY INSIGHTS and Glenn St. Charles
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From: Pineridge
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Date: 20-Aug-09 |
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When I shoot I see everything,target and arrow line up like I was pointing with my finger,it works every well but I need to shoot with my dominant eye,,which ment switching to shooting left handed.
It's all good.
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From: yooper
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Date: 20-Aug-09 |
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I'm also right handed, left eye dominant. i grew up on right handed compounds. When i "saw the light" and made the switch to traditional i thought i would try a lefty bear grizly. i found out quickly that shooting left handed took the fun out of shooting. It took a month of frustration and one beat up right fore arm to get me to try a friends right handed bow. wow, what a difference! I sold my left handed bow and now have a right handed one that i love to shoot!
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From: Jack Whitmrie jr
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Date: 20-Aug-09 |
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Yeah it is clumsy to shoot LH when you a right handed , I know because I do it. I still put my arrows in my right handed back pocket when shooting in the yard. For years I nocked an arrow with my right hand after switching. BUT:
When drawing a bow right handed , but left eye dominant the arrow and the eye line up way before reaching full draw causing a person to short draw if shooting totaly instinctive. I don't want to debate the instinctive thing. But I don't care if you gap shoot or whatever you want to call it. I know that GSC and Kidwell say it doesn't matter but IMO it does.
Someone above mentioned strength of eye dominance , I agree !
Jack
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