Just bought a Big East one piece recurve from a member on another trad sight. Haven't received it yet but was trying to research some info on Big East bows. Can't find anything on google but did read a few posts on this site about a Big East Fedora. Guy I bought this bow only knew of a few rumors what happened to him. I've shot a Fedora and loved it. Hope to get the same enjoyment from this bow. Any info would be great. Thanks, Tim

Big East was Mike Jr.

Other then real talent at bowbuilding, that was an apple that fell farrrrrr from the tree.

Steve

Big Easts are magic bows. Mike Jr. may have fallen far from the tree, but he made beautiful bows that, in my opinion, are magic performers. I do have some history (given to me by others) on Mike Jr. that I will share via an email if you wish. Just send me a PM with your email address.

I personally feel the Big East bows are worth more than Fedora's. Take a look at my prize Big East:

Dave in Ft. Collins, CO

Riser view:

It just amazes me that a person can have such a talent and the next day it is gone. Absolutely a shame, and absolutely baffeling.

This is only the second member that I've seen making reference to owning one of these bows. Are there any more to be had? I sure would like to own one in the future, I love Dachba's bow and any Fedora has to be a good Fedora, right?!

LostIn The Woods: The guy I bought my bow from is an old timer when it comes to Big East bows. If he doesn't have one to sell, he will probably know of someone.

If you want to contact him I'll write him and see if it's OK to give out his email address.

There are quite a few people who own one but you don't see many on this site.

Dave in Ft. Collins, CO

Forgot to mention, I'll answer the PM's tomorrow. I don't have time, tonight.

Dave in Ft. Collins, CO

Sounds good Dave. Thanks for looking out for the brothas ;)

i took a chance about 5 years ago and bought a bow directly from Jr.

it was a very nice recurve with awesome workmanship. i would have kept it if it was a few #'s heavier.

re-looking at these pics makes me sick that i sold it..........cocobolo riser, with lacewood limbs, high gloss finish.

A few where very lucky in their dealings. Years later many others are still holding the bag - deposits given or bows paid for never to see or hear from BE again.

When the product was good, it was excellent. However much that went out the door was not.

Be very careful buying any used BE and know the seller well.

Steve

If you bought the bow from Gene, it's a 60" 1pc 54@29 highly laminated birdseye maple and gaboon ebony. The bow is absolutely stunning. It will say "Specially customized for Ron Goodrum" on the bottom limb.Shoot me a PM and I'll tell ya all ya want to know about the bow and if ya want I'll tell ya story behind it and the bowyer.

RJG

Ditto what SteveB said. My best hunting pal can attest to that.

RLG,

I got that BE you referred to above from Gene about a month ago and would appreciate what info you have. It is beautiful and a nice bow.

If not mistaken, Gene had 9 or 10 of these at one time but I think this was the last one he was selling.

Lon

RJG,

I got that BE you referred to above from Gene about a month ago and would appreciate what info you have. It is beautiful and a nice bow.

If not mistaken, Gene had 9 or 10 of these at one time but I think this was the last one he was selling.

Lon

I've owned about a dozen of Jr's bows. I once owned the one dachba has pictured in this thread. Sold some to Gene. They are truly in a class by themselves. jr. may have some problems but he sure can build a bow. I have one coco/osage Takedown left. Always was my favorite. I might be persuaded to part with it if anyone is interested. It won't be cheap but reasonable.

Doesnt mike jr. build bows with his dad?

No he doesn't. It's MikeSr, wife Carrol and son Jason that are Fedora's Archery.

Steve

Shortly after I started coming to this site around 2001(?) I got involved in a try before you buy thing with an outfit who sold his bows, I got a 50 @ 28 in the mail and couldn't believe it when I shot it.

This one had a big heavy Coco and Osage riser, heavily preloaded limbs, shot an arrow the likes of which I'd never seen, so I kept it and sent the money, still got it too.

This guy (Mike Jr.) made bows with the most incredible workmanship of anyone I've ever seen. The finish is awesome, and the performance is way above the norm.

The limbs action is more vertical, the result is in essence the same effect as parallel limb technology, minimal hand shock since the impulses of the limbs cancel each other out.

When he sold lams as DNM he gave me the recipe for the limbs, and I have reproduced them. Screamers!

-Mike

I bought an all ash mahogany stained one piece from Gene years ago. These bows always seem to draw favorable attention at shoots. Jr loved to laminate every which way in the risers. Been shooting my Warfs mostly the last year or two,and you guys are making me want to shoot the Big East again. May have to take it along with them for the first 3d this year.

I got a BigEast T/D from Gene this past year and love the thing! It is very accurate, fast and quiet. I shot 4 deer with this bow this last season. I will post a couple pics because it really is a looker as well.

I also heard (never confirmed) that Mike Jr forms were bought by a guy in NY who makes t/d recurves and 1 pc longbows

I'm not sure, but isn't Dan Toelke building a Big East clone? Maybe he got the forms?

Dave in Ft. Collins, CO

Oops! I think my previous post should have said Ed Mikuta, not Dan Toelke but I'm not sure (grin).

Dave in Ft. Collins, CO

Those Big East bows you guys have posted are absolutely beautiful.

Those Big East bows you guys have posted are absolutely beautiful.

Never would have believed this would have drawn so much attention. More I read the more I can't wait til my bow arrives. It's a Gray Ash Recurve. Pictures I've seen of it are beutiful. Thanks for all the info.

I can say that Mike Sr jason and Carl are wonderful people!!!!! and they build a GREAT bow!!!!!! look at all of the copies of the fedoras what does that tell you It is a long perfected design that works! Mike fedora has been in the game longer than some bowyers have been alive.

I saw one for sale tonight at The Eastern Sports Show in Harrisburg, PA. Was in a bow holder on a treestand, didn't ask what the price was or handle the bow. Did see the tag said Big East recurve for sale. Looked nice...Mike

So who does Mike Jr. work for then?

91Stormvet Here's my 44# All ash Big East. I think Jr made a bunch of these, some in grey and some mahogany stain. I can walk a whole 3d coarse and my hand always hits that grip the same way. Pretty neat. Pretty quick bow too.

Works out in the field too

Talk about a coincidence :)

I don't come here much anymore.. Just cruise the classifieds.. See lots of old friends here to whom I have sold Big East bows.

Hi folks!

Never had a brand new one... (Though, I paid for one...).

Was lucky enough to find several on the used bow scene... I owned all those in the pics above. Ron G's bow was about the nicest..

I sold them all. Gone on to DAS Kinetics bows now..

The bows were something special, but the bowyer another issue... I still have a bad taste in my mouth from my dealings with him.. He caused me a lot of grief.. I lost friends cause of him and his lies..

I tired to help him out, when he was in trouble, but got stabbed in the back by him as well...

Its never to late to make amends, but doubt that will ever happen....

Best Wishes to all. Gene Charbonneau

Gene, funny to hear you owned all the Big East bows listed here. Turns out you owned the one coming to me. About the boyer, people sometimes go down the wrong path but hopefully find their way back. I'm just happy to be getting what sounds like a nice bow, which I had very little knowledge of until I posted on this site. I really appreciate the time everyone took to post their two cents. As for the bow itself my bow like the one posted by Grizzly, but all gray in color, is not stampped with the Big East logo. I bought it from a gentleman named Mark Kramer, who bought it from you. Were these made for somebody that way? Thanks, Tim

Hi ya Tim!!

Tim,

Yes, I remember that bow... Its a good one... Plain, but with the same performance typical to Big East..

Jr. had licensed a line of his bows he called "dealer bows". These were the same design as his custom bows, but made to be more affordable with lower priced woods, and no options... To be sold "off the shelf", as it were.

Some had no brand name on them, some the name of the dealer... Some were made by Jr. and some under his supervision by others with his forms.(I am told).. They are all fine bows..

Most were made of Ash as yours and Craig's were. Except for the fancy woods, they are the same as the custom bows..

The customs did have the option as something called "ultracore" or "special core" as a limb core.. This was a premium performance.. Not sure what it is, but Steve Q. once told me, I believe, that it was some sort of exotic wood type of "actionwood" that Jr. developed and sold through his bow wood dealership. DNM archery...

As for what happened to him.. I have no idea. He just disappeared. I hear lots of rumours, but its not good to spread speculation, as things usually get distorted, and told as fact...

These bows are getting real hard to come by.. Enjoy it.. I think it will make you smile...

Gene Charbonneau

Thanks Gene!!

Hey Steve!!

Real nice to hear from you again.. Still making those nice recurves?

Thanks for asking, actually I have been out of the loop cause of poor health, but making a recovery. Anxious to get back into bowhunting again..

I moved to mid Maine, in the deep boonies..

We ought to try to get the old forum going again.... Just checked it out for the first time in a LONG time.. Looks like no one posts there at all anymore...?

I'll send you a PM with my email...

Gene

I think he was set up inside the lodge at DH this past summer

Bulldog-RI

It's good to see the Bulldog is back!

Keep me in the loop too. I forgot the web addy of that old site.

Gene! Good to hear from you. I sure do love that Big East you sold me. Best bow I've ever shot. I also am on a recovery path from some health issues and am looking for a 45# Big East if you happen to see one. Maybe I should be looking at a DAS Kinetics if that is what you have gone to (grin).

Dave in Ft. Collins, CO (dachba)

Hey Bill!

Good to find another old bud.

Its the HIS forum..

No one has posted in months, but trying to get it back on its feet...

Hey Dave! Glad you decided to keep it.. Sold one to your friend Lon...

The DAS is a step above...

Gene

91 stormvet......You will not hear from Mike Jr, of Big east archery because he is longer in the archery business. He started out as an apprentice under his father Mike sr.

His unruly behavior and issues found him out on his own, as he could not get along in the family business. Using various designs that his father perfected years earlier, he started a line of bows called it big east.

At first he did well, but soon his bad attitude, and lack of business ethics caught up with him. Soon he was stealing deposits, not finishing paid for bows, and selling bows off that came in for repairs.

For a while he picked up a silent partner, a very well known figure in the trad archery community, who bank rolled him, and helped him front his lamination business. That arrangement soon ended, due to Mike jr's typical antics.

Broke, and disgraced, he moved on, and abroad. Most who owned his bows sold them, wanting nothing to do with them, because they were tainted. What is sad, is, is he had potential. As for his bows. They are simply designs perfected by his dad. They are nice, as he learned under his father, but nowhere in the league of his fathers work. In fact, his brother Jason is the true artist of the family.

Big East is just a passing moment in the history of archery. His dad, Mike Sr is quite different. Many bowyers consider Mike to be thee master bowyer. Many of todays top bowyers like Abe Penner, Jeff Massie, Dan Toelke, and so on, schooled under Mike senior. Fedora archery has a 45 year history of excellence, and in todays world, that speaks volumes.

Hope this helps

64kodiak, I don't have a dog in this race but your post needs a bit of a challenge. I've received PM's and emails stating just the opposite. That Jr's bows were/are Superior to his fathers and not just simple clones.

As to Jr's ethics, everyone seems to agree with you.

Dave in Ft. Collins, CO

I understand there is a shop in central Pa that has pieces of many of his finer works.

Gentlemen, there are numerous opinions on bows, and bow performance. I for one feel the 64 Bear Kodiak is the finest shooting one piece recurve ever made in America, and I have shot, and owned them all, including black widows, hummingbirds, Big easts, Fedoras, Dale Dyes, and so on.

When I say "tainted", I am not speaking of the bows themselves. Personal bows are just that. Personally I could not, nor would not own a bow from a man like Mike Jr, and others strongly agree.

As I said earlier, Big east is yesterdays news, and really a non issue. However, if ever in Wintersville Pa, stop in and see Mike, Carol, Jay, and Sam. Ask Mike about the the Mountain Bow design that Jr used. Maybe he'll dig out the form and build you all one...;}

Mike, Jason, and Carol are nice folks. I make a trip there each summer and have a hard time leaving without a bow in my hand. In addition to being a master bowyer Mike is a master salesman :^). I really have come to like his 560 T/D and althogh I am not a long bow guy I could see myself with his Extreme some day. IMHO used Fedora bows are the best value I see on the classified bows. Fedora bows are built for the long run and will probably outlast us all. The only thing I don't like about Fedora are his 300 pound attack dogs :-0 they scare me especially when I don't have a Beretta on my hip.

Ibex, the 64 Kodiak is in my opinion is one the fastest one piece recurves ever made, with a smooth draw, and low recoil. With that said, I also consider the 1970 Kodiak Hunter almost an equal.

While it is not as fast, it is quieter, and the riser combination of Pau Ferro, Rosewood, and Bubinga is stunning. Add to that, the fit and finish of the 1970 KH rivals anything being made today. The Kodiak is a shooting bow, but the 1970 KH is a hunting bow.

Trad deer, the dog that bites is named Timber. He's a built in security system.Nice talking with you guys.

Reading this thread reminds me of how close I came to getting involved in the Big East situation. A couple internet friends had "discovered" Big East bows and were really high on the performance. One Friday evening I was on-line and they put me in touch with Mike Jr. via PM's. By the end of our "conversation", he was going to send me a test bow and I was seriously considering the purchase of one if it lived up to the high praise.

That must have been right before the "wheels came off" because I never received a test bow and never heard from him again. As the events unfolded, I was very glad that things had not worked out since several people got hurt by the resulting furor. Friendships abruptly ended and folks left websites on which they had become valued members. Very sad......

64Kodiak is spot-on in my opinion when speaking of a product being "tainted". Not that there is anything defective with the materials or workmaship, but the incidence of the process leaves a bad taste in your mouth that taints the use of the item. I once had a similar bad dealing with a bowyer who had a different view of time, truth and reality than I did. By the time the bow arrived nearly seven months later than promised, it was already tainted in my mind and was traded less than a month after arriving. The fellow who received it had a far different view of the bow than I did, which is obviously not a reflection of craft.

As we have repeatedly seen in politics, athletics, entertainment and even religion........talent and character do not come as a complete package. Some of the most talented people lack discipline and personal integrity which ultimately comes to surface to their ruination. Again, very sorry situation......... 8^(

TL

"By the time the bow arrived nearly seven months later than promised, it was already tainted in my mind ..."

Not excusing other complaints against bowyers (esp. Jr.), but this is a bit absurd, IMO. Sure, I would like a bow to be built on time, but many good bowyers are overly optimistic. Same for guitar builders, in my experience. Give them any flak and the response will be "no guitar for you!". I can't imagine a guitarist, getting a great guitar 7 mos. late, crying "I don't wanna' play it...came late and it's tainted now! Wahhh! " ROTFL!

Sure, it's not punctual, it's not top shelf business practice, but some of the worst offenders include otherwise decent people who have an elastic view of time. And maybe that's why they are in that business vs. punching a time clock...

Of course there is NO excuse for outright dishonesty such as not producing the product and pocketing the $$$, etc.

David.........add seven months to six to seven months originally estimated and you have well over a year. I don't deal with the "soup Nazi" type of craftsman who says you will get it when I am done with it, regardless of what the original time quote happened to be. What if that same individual had to wait seven months longer than promised for a payment........especially if they had already heard the old "checks is in the mail" line a time or two???

Why is this expectation of truthfulness "a bit absurd", when you go on to say that "many good bowyers are overly optimistic"? If anything, I would estimate a tad longer to give myself some elbow room for the unexpected. That way if it is right on time, everyone is happy. If early, even more so. Would you be satisfied if your auto mechanic estimated a job taking a week and keeping your vehicle two months? An "elastic view of time" is known as LATE in the real world.........and giving false information is known as a LIE.

TL

I respectfully disagree with you David. 7 months late is a LONG time. If something comes up and the bow is gonna be over a half a year late, I'd expect the oppurtunity to have my order cancelled and money back. Just my opinion...Mike

Steve......."I've even bought a few from angry x-wifes of bowhunters at rock bottom prices." LOL

Steve......."I've even bought a few from angry x-wifes of bowhunters at rock bottom prices." LOL

One of the sweetest shooting bows I've ever owned, a Mosshorn, came from a "tainted" bowyer. I bought it directly from him before I learned his reputation.

A great bow is a great bow, no matter who makes it.

Dave in Ft. Collins, CO

I think the "tainted" concept originates within the purchaser/owner as they become increasingly dissatisfied with poor service, bad attitude or lack of honest communication with the bowyer before it arrives. The bow is a physical representation of the individual they have come to distrust and is a constant reminder of that situation. The bow that I received in the trade was purchased by the ex-wife of a fellow who could no longer stand to look at it any longer. I had none of the history and thus none of the "bad karma" which he came to see within the trade bow. Same thing in my view......

If you had a good experience with the bowyer while others did not, there is obviously no taint to the bow in your thinking. Possibly wonderment at your good fortune, but not a sense of the bow being tainted by the dealings or behaviors of the maker. The same thing typically goes for the second, third, etc owners who don't have a history with the bowyer and judge the bow on its own merits. Kind of what Ibex was describing above.

TL

It's something of an American attitude...this punctuality thing. Doesn't go over well in England and Europe; probably not in traditional Asia. "She's done when she's done..."

Not excusing it. I certainly wouldn't want the roofer showing up weeks after the job was supposed to start. But it is reality in much of the world, esp. the closer you get to art vs. construction work.

It's also true in the USA and probably in other countries, there is a choice. You can have an excellent bow built by someone who does deliver it more or less on time.

One other thing...the "Old World Craftsman style of doing things"...might not be entirely punctual, but they'd probably rather commit suicide than run off with someone's money or produce a shabby product. That's the difference that is the big difference...

I agree with all your points David. Except you are leaving out one thing. His original post said "by the time the bow arrived nearly seven months later than promised". Promised is the key word in the statment (in my mind anyway). I agree you could go with a bowyer that will deliver more promptly. I don't think it was ever stated that I'll get you a bow in April, but I sometimes run 7 months late. It's one thing if you go into it not knowing when the bow will get there, but when you are told a certain time I think that is when you expect to see the bow.

I've had bows run over because they missed weight, family troubles, even cause the bowyer wasn't happy with the way the bow came out. In all cases I was contacted and told of the situation. Some were resolved quickly and some more time. In every case I was offered the option of having my money back if I didn't want to wait.

Your last statement rings true with every "good" (or great or whatever your preference) bowyer I know. And everyone I know will let you know that your bow is gonna be a little late, not let you hanging for seven months. JMHO...Mike

Got it! Doesn't feel tainted, just like a piece of fine wood art work, with curves that would make Pamela Anderson jealous. Shoots great! Whisper quit and fast. Very happy with it. Thanks for all the info guys.Tim

I understand completely, Yoda. It likely has to do with the excitement and anticipation with which we enter into a new bow purchase and hope to sustain all the way through completion and arrival at our home. After carefully chosing wood options and other custom features, we presume the craftsman is similarly "into" the process with a high desire for customer satisfaction. However when phone calls or e-mails go unanswered, the promised due date has come and gone, lame excuses are given that don't ring true with your definition of professional, you are told it is done and has already been shipped but it doesn't arrive........... the harsh realization that this is not going to work out begins to sink in. Something changes internally at that point and you begin to dread the arrival rather than look forward to it. That is the definition of "tainted" which you clearly experienced as well.

TL

Mooseman, but do they really "PROMISE"? Or just say, should be ready by XXX date? I think we're pretty close on this. Intent and goodness of heart is the difference. I do feel many artists and craftspeople rebel against the tyranny of the clock/calandar and I'm sympathetic to that. No doubt, it's better for the customers if they don't specify dates..."she's done when she's done..."

Sparta, I received the "gypsy treatment" from none other than Fred Anderson. Phone calls and mail unaswered. I was led to believe the bow would be ready in a year. Took much longer. But when it did arrive, it was worth the wait. Wasn't tainted at all for me. I understand Mr. Anderson is quite the gentleman, too. Just something to plug into the database...

David, I agree completely that if no set date is given then it is up to you to wait. In that case, I personally would have no problem with it. I'm a perfectionist and would rather my bow be done perfectly than be rushed.

The last probably 6 bows I've ordered have either come with a "It will be shipped on or before this date" or "X to X weeks/months" in these cases I really expect the bow in those time frames as somethimes that was my final decision in ordering that bow. So I could have it for a certain shoot or certain season, etc... I do think the wording is key.

Now that is settled, lets see some more bows...lol...Mike

A PERFECTIONIST? You sir, have my sympathies...

;-)

I wish I had half a dozen or so of them right now.

Big East bows that is.

Ever once in a while Mike Jr pops up on different sites under a new screen name.

Here's one of his blasts from the past. This one's on the way, I can't wait to get it. My left handed son is going to end up shooting at but I'm sure going to admire it. I don't know but not of another bow that's ever been made similar to it. It's his Mountain longbow.

I know where a couple dozen Big East bows are residing at this very moment. Don't think they are for sale unfortunately.

So if this Big East bow was so great and Mike sr. Made it first why is Mike Sr. not making them now? Someone said above he would have to dig out the old form to make one.,

I don't believe any bow builder has ever made a bow similar to Junior's Mountain bow. In my opinion there was an artistic genius there that was evident in all the Big East bows.

Takes more than physical ability, or even artistry to be a successful bowyer.

Babysaph - Mike Sr has been retired for several years. Hard to tell what the new owner is doing.

Regardless of bowyer's business dealings etc. I've never been able to deny how well they shoot and look. But that's just my opinion.

Modifications to old designs still show up now and again. Nothing is really new, but many are tweaked.

I'm not sure about the whole story behind the mountain bow but I think it would qualify it's an IBO rule gray areas.

I agree George. I'd say Sr. made the bows and Jr. copied them. And from the posts above I could not tell Sr was retired

I like to look at old websites on the wayback website.

Things do come and go don't they:

https://web.archive.org/web/2002020223 4333/http://www.bigeastbows.com/

https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://w ww.dnmarchery.com/

Here's another.

I've been shooting this Big East Ultra Mountain bow for a few weeks now. I'm a righty and it's a lefty. I'm getting used the left hand thing slowly but steady. The bow however is a complete work of art and a fantastic shooter.

Mike Fedora Jr. has been put through the ringer by those that had a less than favorable experience with his business acumen.

I personally had one of those experiences. He was building bows for Tollgate Archery in West Winfield NY and I had to have one after shooting the bows George had on hand. George was and is one of the finest men to be involved in the archery business.

I paid up front half and it was a year and letters to the attorney general and somehow George produced an all Zebrawood work of art that was the bar none best shooting / performing bow I'd ever laid hands on. There was one "minor" issue - I ordered 47-49# and the one I got was 63#. At 20 yards, you couldn't blink and the arrow was there - It was blazingly fast. The geometry and riser profiles are unique and every one is one of a kind.

I can't say enough about the quality of the bows Jr. produced. I know this is beating the dead horse, so I'm not going to add any BS to stir up a hornets nest.

Mike Fedora JR. Made Big East Bows and Mike Fedora SR. Made Fedora Bows ref. To a above post.

I got a great deal on this one used so all I'm judging here is the way the thing looks and shoots. If anyone out there has one that they can't stand looking at because of the guy who built it, just let me know. I think we might be able to work something out.

Odd thing is I don't think I've seen five of these lousy things listed in the classifieds in the past 15 years or so. Lol

Iwander, that's because he really didn't make a lot of them, and this forum is but a dot in the amount of people in traditional archery. Not seeing them in the classified can be applied to a lot of bows that lived a short life. I personally had not association with either Fedora gents, but when you make your own bed, you kinda have to sleep in it. Too bad that a talented bowyer like Mike Jr. wasn't better at the business end.

I agree with Barebo2 those were amazing bows

Just to be clear here, I bought a bow from Mike Fedora Sr. and had several pleasant conversations with him. The 560 recurve I received was all Osage with bamboo cores. It was an excellent bow - nothing but perfect in fit and finish.

Jr. learned from a master. What he brought to the table were innovations that distinguished his style and ideas. The end result can be experienced by anyone that personally puts their hands on one.

Saying that one is "better" than another is like saying chocolate is better than vanilla.

Barebo2, you couldn't have said it best, own both and killed deer with both. If no one has shot/owned them, then best be quiet no qualification to be a critique.

Notice the know-all bow experts on here usually pipe-up with no facts in the matter, just a need to stroke their ego. Had a saying where I use to live is "say nothing".

I know for a fact that Jr spent many many hours in the back of his Dad's business building Fedora bows before he took off on his own.

jjs, so anyone who is not a fan is a know-all, ego oriented dolt I suppose. I know guys who had issues with the man and it could have been settled with some good business sense. So don't suppose someone is feeding their ego when they are just telling of an experience.

The man made great bows, but it takes more than that to run a successful business.

George D., calm down, did I call your name out, don't think so. I have some history with the subject and leave it there and I stand by what I say. Read things on here for along time where it has gone sideways, but that is the nature of this forum. As you stated "I know guys" but did "you" have any experience and that is the point. As far as business been at it for a good many years and creditability is everything, it can end very quickly in the dishonesty department. Be well George and keep shooting straight.

I sure wish I knew some folks that we're still shooting Junior's bows. There has got to be quite a few out there anyway. I'm glad we can discuss them openly on this forum.

I've been shooting my new to me left- handed Bigeast Ultra Mountain bow with some pretty good success, but I've convinced myself I better stick to the right-handed stuff. My left handed son needs something a little lighter. I went ahead and threw it on the classifieds for a right-handed swap. I know I'll probably regret not having it around to look at, it's so pretty. One thing that a lot of people might not know is that Jr used Wenge cores and some of his bows.

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