| From: Mike Etzler
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| Date: 14-Nov-12 |
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Had the opportunity to shoot one this past summer at a shoot, we were interupted before we could talk more. I thought it was a very nice shooting bow, very steady with the Aluminum riser, quick and smooth. The riser will take PII limbs. I'll be getting one after the Holidays it will have a 17 1/2" riser with a set of original limbs making a 56" bow. I saw that the back lamination on these limbs is thinner than the belly side and the wedge is noticably longer than those of the PII, and they came w/o laminations on the tips. He did work for Bob Lee early on is that correct? Should I consider some phenolic tips for the limbs or do they need them?
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| From: arrowchucker
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| Date: 15-Nov-12 |
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Holy cow! You found one. They were made back in the 70's in Moab Utah and are great shooting bows. I have small hands and love the grip. They had some wild paint jobs on the target bows lots of glitter and sparkle.
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| From: backwashrat
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| Date: 15-Nov-12 |
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Had one growing us ( last recureve before I tried a compound ) a long time ago, would realy like to find one now ( the gentlemen jim model )
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| From: Mike Etzler
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| Date: 15-Nov-12 |
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What was his first name,,I'm looking for some more info, archery archives won't let me in for some reason.
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| From: George D. Stout
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| Date: 15-Nov-12 |
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I have a Carroll's as well, and owned a new one back in the early 1970's. Mine was the Gentleman Jim model...named for Gentleman Jim Pickering who at the time was using Carroll's equipment. Somewhere I have some more information on Mr. Carroll's as well...even a photo I believe, but I'm not home to look right now. The tips don't have overlays, but they have a wedge for extra support. I use Fastflight on mine and have for quite awhile with no issues at all. Right now my granddaughter is shooting mine with 30# limbs and she loves it.
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| From: Polar Bear
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| Date: 15-Nov-12 |
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I use to have a Gentleman Jim. I'm sorry I ever traded that bow. The last one I saw was in real rough shape.
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| From: wahpeton 48
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| Date: 15-Nov-12 |
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Mike E. I think his name was Bob Carrol,but I can't remember for sure. Dan
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| From: Mike Etzler
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| Date: 15-Nov-12 |
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Did the risers come in different lengths, the one I'm getting is 17 1/2".
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| From: arrowchucker
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| Date: 15-Nov-12 |
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They had a hunting and target lenght but i don't know the specs
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| From: Medicare Bhtr
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| Date: 15-Nov-12 |
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Was a Carroll dealer in early 70's. Bob Carroll and Ivan Winder. Bows made in Utah. Beautiful, small grip metal risers. Hunting model was Gentleman Jim. Also made second (I believe) metal riser compounds. There are still a few sold at auction. .
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| From: Medicare Bhtr
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| Date: 15-Nov-12 |
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Was a Carroll dealer in early 70's. Bob Carroll and Ivan Winder. Bows made in Utah. Beautiful, small grip metal risers. Hunting model was Gentleman Jim. Also made second (I believe) metal riser compounds. There are still a few sold at auction. .
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| From: bowdoc
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| Date: 15-Nov-12 |
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Bob Lee did make a good number of .... if not all the early sets of Carroll's limbs.Same curved bed as a Wing P-2.Both the Wing t/d and Carroll's t/d are very good shooting bows bd
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| From: dkard
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| Date: 16-Nov-12 |
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Martin made limbs for Carroll doe a while too. I have about 6 of them. I learned on a Carroll about 7 years ago from my friend that has 3 or so
I talked to Mr Carroll to see if he had any bows left after he sold the company to PSE. He sent all the limbs and risers to PSE. He is pretty sure they were thrown away, he didn't even have one himself anymore
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| From: Mike Etzler
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| Date: 16-Nov-12 |
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From what little I've found so far I think the Gentleman Jim came out in '72,,,I also found a T/D called the Martin Carrolls,,With the introduction of the Wing PII and the Carrolls being almost 10 yrs apart I think it's neat that you can use the PII limbs on a Carrolls riser. It looks like the Carrolls risers, where the limbs bolt on, sets back a shade more than the PII. Shame he doesn't have for himself.
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| From: Tom Baldwin
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| Date: 16-Nov-12 |
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I had such problems finding heavy PII limbs back in the 90s, but I lived in Colorado and found several heavier weight Carroll recurves. I remember 62#, 65#, and 53# limbs. One model was called the Lewis. I shot them a lot on Carroll and PII risers. The Carroll metal risers were really ugly and generally uncomfortable to me, but the performance was not noticeably different than a Wing riser with the same limbs. I don't remember trying Wing limbs on a Carroll riser - saw no point in that. I did not use low-stretch string material back then, but if I found a set today, I wouldn't hesitate to try it.
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| From: 4FINGER
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| Date: 16-Nov-12 |
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My friend Jim passed away last Spring from Cancer...Here is Jim's "Gentleman Jim" T/D that his family had on display at his Funeral...I still have my Carroll's Gentleman Jim T/D...shot a Black Bear with it in Idaho in the Spring of 1978...they did and still shoot Great...4finger
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