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how far 45pound long bow killing range?

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peebaa 09-Jul-12
GF 09-Jul-12
JusPassin 09-Jul-12
KyPhil 09-Jul-12
K Cummings 09-Jul-12
peebaa 09-Jul-12
bradsmith2010 09-Jul-12
BearFoote 09-Jul-12
GF 09-Jul-12
George D. Stout 09-Jul-12
tuscarora 09-Jul-12
LBshooter 09-Jul-12
Jim 09-Jul-12
George D. Stout 09-Jul-12
peebaa 09-Jul-12
dire wolf 09-Jul-12
Jeffer 09-Jul-12
roger 09-Jul-12
AZBEAR 09-Jul-12
fredbear 09-Jul-12
RC 09-Jul-12
peebaa 09-Jul-12
longbowguy 09-Jul-12
Red 10-Jul-12
Stan 10-Jul-12
George D. Stout 10-Jul-12
deaddoc4444 10-Jul-12
BearFoote 10-Jul-12
apachearrow 10-Jul-12
AZBEAR 10-Jul-12
oldbow 10-Jul-12
wildman 10-Jul-12
wildman 10-Jul-12
wildman 10-Jul-12
wildman 10-Jul-12
SuddenDeath 11-Jul-12
From: peebaa
Date: 09-Jul-12




wondering im shooting pretty well with a 45 pound savana martin long bow at 30 yards now. how far of a range can i shoot and stil be in killing range of a deer/reg. sized bear?

From: GF
Date: 09-Jul-12




How far away can you hit the vitals 95% of the time or better?

Better slap on the Nomex boxers, bub...

From: JusPassin Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 09-Jul-12




GF got it. It's not what you can hit, it's what you can hit under adverse conditions EVERY time.

From: KyPhil
Date: 09-Jul-12




That's right. I can shoot good out to 25 yards but not when a real deer is standing there. So I keep it at 15 yards when hunting.

From: K Cummings
Date: 09-Jul-12




The killing range of the bow will be much farther than the killing range of the shooter.

At any point the time the arrow leaves the bow until it hits the ground, it's lethal. The key is figuring out at what point along that path, whether it be 5 or 55 yards, can you no longer control exactly where it goes.

KPC

From: peebaa
Date: 09-Jul-12




yea i understand the whole accuary thing been hunting for 3 decades just kinda new to longbows and wondering would the pounch be enough?

From: bradsmith2010
Date: 09-Jul-12




your bow would probably kill a deer 100 yards or more,,,,probably as far as the bow will shoot,,,, but as stated above,,, need to be closer when you are hunting,, the bow is more powerful at closer range,,,

From: BearFoote
Date: 09-Jul-12




I have to say guys that those are the best answers I have ever heard to this discussion. The variables are many. The laws are all different. In MD the law says #29 and with the right arrow that can be deadly at 30 yards if you are accurate. #45 is more than enough and is only leathal if you hit that dadgum critter where it will kill him.

From: GF
Date: 09-Jul-12




I look at it this way... How far away would I want to be if there were a good archer using it to take aim at me? As Mr. Cummings said, if it's airborne, it'll kill you. I've never seen an arrow moving too slowly to be lethal.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 09-Jul-12




These folks are correct, and another way to look at it is, gravity will pull an arrow fast enough to go completely through a deer...or person for that matter. Common sense would tell you though, it doesn't matter if you don't or can't hit the target where it needs to be hit. I can hit field targets over sixty yards away, but my preferred shot at a deer is much less than twenty...preferably half that. A deer's vitals get pretty small after thirty yards, and it's good to keep in mind that they are normally not still targets.

Your bow is fine for as far as you can shoot, as long as the arrow goes where it's supposed to go. Pretty simple, eh?

From: tuscarora
Date: 09-Jul-12




whew!! i'll say... good sharp broadhead...i'd be more concerned with your range than your bows...from what i have seen of the martin savannahs.....45lbs?....yea... deadly combination long as you do your part.

From: LBshooter
Date: 09-Jul-12




Remember PeeBaa, it's not how far you can shoot an animal but, how close you can get.

From: Jim
Date: 09-Jul-12




That 45# savannah will kill an animal at 80 yards or more if you are a good enough archer to put it in the vitals at that range.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 09-Jul-12




I shot one a few years ago with a 45# Savannah, at about 17 yards the arrow went through on the fly.

From: peebaa
Date: 09-Jul-12




ty guys this forom rocks my first day trying it and so much info youll be hearing more from me ty all. glad to know 45# is enough for hunting and yep LB it is all about how close you can get thats why i dropped compounds bows way to machanical. just a stick bow guy now!!

From: dire wolf
Date: 09-Jul-12




peebaa,

Get to know your stickbow and arrows matched up well..

Find out what your 'point on' distance is with your draw-anchor-equipment and loose.. That is the distance where the fully drawn arrow's point, seen in yyour secondary vision, is at 6:00 o'clock on the mark and THAT'S where the arrow flies trajectory-wise.

Depending on a few variables, should be over 40 yards on the flat..maybe more if you shoot lighter arrows and/or three under..

Practice out to your point on at small targets, striving to shoot the line to the mark every time..

A 3" styrofoam ball on a 40" stick makes a definitive target for this..

A decent 45# bow with a true flying sharp broadhead arrow is lethal out to it's terminal max distanceon deer or bears....

BUT the limiting and deciding factors are all YOU..the archer and your own abilities.. Strive for the closer shots when hunting....but GOOD dedicated practice at longer distances will sure hone your archery skills..Jim

From: Jeffer
Date: 09-Jul-12




Hmmm, I've never thought about how far before. It's always been about how close I can get.

Cheers Jeff

From: roger
Date: 09-Jul-12




Your bow weight is basically irrelevent. It has everything to do with repeatable accuracy.

From: AZBEAR
Date: 09-Jul-12




With 45# i can knock the hell out of a 3D pig at over 50 yds ....Az

From: fredbear Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 09-Jul-12
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I've Killed a bufallo at 44 pounds and several Hogs with 40 , shot placement is key

From: RC
Date: 09-Jul-12




Peebaa, keep all your shots at live game to 15 yards and under. It's not about the kill, it's about what is right.

From: peebaa
Date: 09-Jul-12




yep. just was worried if 45 pounds is enough for hunting guess so ty everyone

From: longbowguy
Date: 09-Jul-12




Yes, it is enough. Another consideration is to match the weight of the arrow to the bow to get a normal trajectory. An old rule of thumb is 10 grains of arrow weight per pound of draw weight, give or take. Roughly. I have a long draw and use a little more. For my 45 pound longbow I use arrows of about 480 grains. For my 55 pound bow, 550 to 600 grains. For my 35 pound target recurve, about 360. I fine tune the weight and length of all these arrows to get all the bows to shoot to about the same point of impact, so I can switch back and forth and still be accurate. - lbg

From: Red
Date: 10-Jul-12




I would go get a 5# pot roast from the store, set it to be stationary on something, walk back 50 yards and whack it with a broad head. If it can't go through that I would try it again at 40 yds. etc.. etc..

From: Stan
Date: 10-Jul-12




Personally... I would take that same 5# roast, throw it in a crock pot with some carrots, onions, potatoes and let it cook while I went out and shot awhile.. Keep your shots close, no matter what draw weight you shoot.. It's a bow for God sake..

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 10-Jul-12




Stan....LMAO. And I agree.

From: deaddoc4444
Date: 10-Jul-12




I'd say about 250 yards or more . I'M SURE it is capable OF Killing at that distance . Just like a 22 short is CAPABLE of killing out to a mile !

From: BearFoote
Date: 10-Jul-12




Man...... we almost made it.

@deaddoc4444: yes absolutely lethal at ANY range it can hit the target accurately. The man up there has dropped buffalo with 44 pounds.

Everyone above wasn't saying "capable of killing", they were saying absolutely deadly when shot accurately.

From: apachearrow
Date: 10-Jul-12




Well, if it's a 3D animal and it's guarenteed not to move, the question is " How far away can you ACCURATELY hit it every shot"

From: AZBEAR
Date: 10-Jul-12




O/K if it was only a ( 3D ) animal i would let it rip out to around 75yds-ish. I dont want any of you to think im a Slob Hunter and would ever take a shot at a live animal over 30yds if the condtions were right. Matter of fact i dont hunt anymore. AzBear

From: oldbow
Date: 10-Jul-12




Back in the day bowhunters killed bull Elk with 45 pounds. Picture George?

From: wildman
Date: 10-Jul-12

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After reading the post and giving it some thought I graves my lightest bow ,a 69 super K and started shooting.Now its rare for me to get to hunt deer,bit sheep are close on body size and of course moose lots bigger.My 69 is 40 lbs and I wouldn't hunt moose with it ,my own min would be 55 lbs but I would hunt deer size game and even caribou. First group 20 yrds

From: wildman
Date: 10-Jul-12

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Next 30 yards

From: wildman
Date: 10-Jul-12

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40 yrds

From: wildman
Date: 10-Jul-12

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And now 50 yrds,big diff I might try that on a caribou Thats sleeping lol!

From: SuddenDeath
Date: 11-Jul-12




to wildman:

I'm dreaming about such close groups at this ranges! You showed me my next goal. Thanks for the pictures.





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