Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


String hits hat brim

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blackarrow 04-Jun-10
George Tsoukalas 04-Jun-10
Chris 04-Jun-10
bowchuck 04-Jun-10
DaGunz 04-Jun-10
Lil' Okie 04-Jun-10
traditional_in_cali 04-Jun-10
Skeet 04-Jun-10
oldbow 04-Jun-10
raghorn 04-Jun-10
Earl E. Nove....mber 04-Jun-10
reddogge 04-Jun-10
GLF 04-Jun-10
bigiron 04-Jun-10
Horsegal 04-Jun-10
hixton_man 04-Jun-10
Plenty Coups Archery 04-Jun-10
Traddicted 05-Jun-10
Raymo 05-Jun-10
Homebru 05-Jun-10
SciPhy 05-Jun-10
Shooty 05-Jun-10
hcorrigall 05-Jun-10
DanaC 05-Jun-10
Okiak 05-Jun-10
George Tsoukalas 05-Jun-10
Chief 05-Jun-10
magyar 05-Jun-10
Bowmania 05-Jun-10
Selden Slider 05-Jun-10
jim stutesman 05-Jun-10
magyar 05-Jun-10
Tree Killer 05-Jun-10
Elk Dog 05-Jun-10
tnpaw 05-Jun-10
RonP 05-Jun-10
RionS 05-Jun-10
George D. Stout 05-Jun-10
reddogge 05-Jun-10
Redback 05-Jun-10
AZBEAR 05-Jun-10
AZBEAR 05-Jun-10
blackarrow 05-Jun-10
Riverwolf 05-Jun-10
Wudstix 05-Jun-10
AZBEAR 05-Jun-10
Jason Scott 07-Jun-10
Old Crow 07-Jun-10
Rik 07-Jun-10
Steve Milbocker 07-Jun-10
Onehair 07-Jun-10
Steve Milbocker 07-Jun-10
OmegaRed 07-Jun-10
Shadowstalker 07-Jun-10
pondscum2 07-Jun-10
deepshaft 07-Jun-10
Pahana 07-Jun-10
Wild Bill 07-Jun-10
longbowchampal 07-Jun-10
Ed Bock 07-Jun-10
Kapellmeister 26-Jul-10
George Tsoukalas 26-Jul-10
reddogge 26-Jul-10
Slowtacktoo 26-Jul-10
r.grider 26-Jul-10
Coop 26-Jul-10
Red Beastmaster 26-Jul-10
Trad-Hunter 27-Jul-10
elbow 27-Jul-10
Hades 27-Jul-10
Shorthair 27-Jul-10
Doug A 27-Jul-10
longbowchampal 27-Jul-10
Hoyt 27-Jul-10
TaterSalad 27-Jul-10
Tomahawk 27-Jul-10
FRJ 27-Jul-10
Zipperin' 27-Jul-10
Trad-Hunter 27-Jul-10
longbowchampal 27-Jul-10
longbowchampal 27-Jul-10
maynard 27-Jul-10
junglehunter 27-Jul-10
Wudstix 27-Jul-10
Fisher 27-Jul-10
String Cutter 28-Jul-10
Wudstix 28-Jul-10
traduke 28-Jul-10
traduke 28-Jul-10
traduke 28-Jul-10
r.grider 28-Jul-10
Joe Van 125 28-Jul-10
hawkeye Oh 29-Jul-10
loose arrow 29-Jul-10
longbowchampal 29-Jul-10
thatdogdonthunt 29-Jul-10
loose arrow 29-Jul-10
loose arrow 30-Jul-10
John Carter 30-Jul-10
From: blackarrow
Date: 04-Jun-10




I am searching for hat that I could wear when shooting. I have a fedora that I like but the string hits the brim when I draw and it drives me crazy. Any suggestions about a good shooting hat? How do you manage to keep the string off of the Brim?

From: George Tsoukalas
Date: 04-Jun-10




I wear a baseball cap and turn it around like a catcher would. :) Jawge

From: Chris
Date: 04-Jun-10




Same as Jawge here.Chris

From: bowchuck
Date: 04-Jun-10




same hear too!

From: DaGunz
Date: 04-Jun-10




Look at the pictures of Fred Bear, or Asbell in TBM. They have a slight curl in the brim of their hat over their right eye. I assume that makes a string clearance. I'm sure it starts lots of conversations, too. This topic has come up before, lots of the guys seem to like a boonie type cover with a floppy brim.

From: Lil' Okie
Date: 04-Jun-10




Baseball cap backwards for me too

From: traditional_in_cali
Date: 04-Jun-10




I wear a Goorin fedora with a soft, stingy (short) brim at a slight angle. Works very well. Marco

From: Skeet Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 04-Jun-10




Baseball caps are for baseball. I have an Orvis Lite Felt from Bass Pro Shop ($39). The brim is not so big, so it works better for shooting the bow.

From: oldbow
Date: 04-Jun-10




Jones Style Hats pretty well solved that problem back in the day but I don't think any company makes them today.

They were making a real short billed Camo Hat in Asat Camo back in the 1990's which really "fit the bill" for Bowhunting but I don't think they are made anymore.

Baseball caps just look out of place on a Traditional shooter.

From: raghorn
Date: 04-Jun-10




Tip your head up and then slid the brim down the string as you approach your anchor. Or just hold your head higher- not tucking your chin way down.

From: Earl E. Nove....mber
Date: 04-Jun-10




For warm weather hunting I take a shears to the brim of a ball cap, later I wear a short brimmed hat, Other wise nothing. I am guessing those little short billed caps welder wear could be cool to.

From: reddogge
Date: 04-Jun-10




I have 3 old Jones hats but the string will still hit the brim on all 3 unless you push it up a little (look at the Wensels). I going for the military boonie with the back down and front tilted up. I have a military BDU hat I wear hunting and all I do is flip up the brim and the string clears nicely. It looks quite dorky at a 3-D shoot though like an aircraft mechanic during WW2.

From: GLF
Date: 04-Jun-10




Fedora works well if you train the front to angle down. Then you can tilt the hat farther back on your head n with the brim bent down in front it still looks like its where it belongs but it doesn't hit your string. Or get one with a flimsy enough brim that it doesn't matter if you hit it. Personally I wear a small brimmed boonie for hunting.

From: bigiron
Date: 04-Jun-10




hard to find those baseball caps with the bill on the back where i shop.

From: Horsegal
Date: 04-Jun-10




Stetson fedora, looks great and very classy. eathier tilt back or curl up the brim where needed.

From: hixton_man
Date: 04-Jun-10




Pin the brim up while hunting. Simple

From: Plenty Coups Archery
Date: 04-Jun-10

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Hats that my wife makes. Worked with her to get the brim just right.

From: Traddicted
Date: 05-Jun-10




I use a camo boonie while hunting. Push the brim up in the front and back, and the sides keep the sun off my ears. Drop the brim in back to keep the sun off my neck.

From: Raymo
Date: 05-Jun-10




Second the boonie

From: Homebru
Date: 05-Jun-10




Hey Plenty Coups, Put in my order with your wife. homebru

From: SciPhy
Date: 05-Jun-10




Been hunting in a Boonie since the mid 90's. Run the strap up over the top to roll up the sides and rotate it until the string clears you style. You look like a total fool (so says the wife...) but in the woods who cares. :)

From: Shooty
Date: 05-Jun-10




Shoot enough and you'll get used to it.

From: hcorrigall
Date: 05-Jun-10




Wear a baseball cap backward and will look like an advert for some silly music video!!!

From: DanaC Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 05-Jun-10

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This one from Cabelas - all-mesh-top boonie.

From: Okiak
Date: 05-Jun-10

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Rolling the brim of your Fedora will help. The string might still make contact, but the brim lifts easily and does not interfere with the draw. I can use a baseball style cap with my 60" bow, but when I shoot 64" there is often contact. I wouldn't consider the notion of turning my cap before the shot. The motion of that action could easily alert your prey. I think the boonie style cap is a great option as is the style that Plenty Coups Archery shows above.

From: George Tsoukalas
Date: 05-Jun-10




Let's say it's 88 degrees out and humid. I don't think I'll be wearing a non mesh cap. My Dad used to wear a ball cap backwards while playing soccer. Dana, I like that one. BUt I think I'll keep wearing my hat backwards. Jawge

From: Chief
Date: 05-Jun-10




Boonie...soft enough that it shoudn't bother with string draw and shadows your face-protects you from the sun!

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chief

From: magyar
Date: 05-Jun-10




Backwards baseball cap, boonie with sides upturned, at one time I had a camo baseball cap with a short "archers brim" can't find them anymore. Anybody know who makes them???

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 05-Jun-10




Who cares about shooting? Hunting is the issue. You need a brim to cover your eyes, so game can't see you blink AND still be able to shoot. The only hat I found that fills the bill is a Crusher Hat from www.dayonecamouflage.com.

Bowmania

From: Selden Slider
Date: 05-Jun-10




Soft brim boonie will curl up when the string comes into contact with it. At least mine does. Another option with the boonie is to cut a small slit in the brim seam. Straighten a wire hanger and slide into seam all the way around. Both ends of wire sshould be on same side of the slit. Now you can shape the brim ant way you want. A few stiches will keep the slit from shredding. Frank

From: jim stutesman Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 05-Jun-10




Short billed baseball hunting hats are sold by Mike Horton of the Nocking Point 913-774-7172

Jim

From: magyar
Date: 05-Jun-10




Thank you JIM!!!

From: Tree Killer
Date: 05-Jun-10




I wear a ball cap or a dew rag if its hot. I have several hats with full brims, but the brim on the sides dampen my hearing too much. Hunting elk by sound I need my hearing too hear distant bugles, herd talk, or the slightest stick breaking in the timber. Fedora style hats take away too much sound!

From: Elk Dog
Date: 05-Jun-10




Predator Camo made a bowhunter's short brim cap. Not sure if it's still available, but it's my favorite.

From: tnpaw
Date: 05-Jun-10




small bill dick tracy hat for me.

From: RonP
Date: 05-Jun-10




I often use a Greek fisherman's cap, as they have a short brim that doesn't interfere with the bowstring.

RonP

From: RionS
Date: 05-Jun-10




Stormy Cromer makes a hat with a shorter bill but they're made from wool so probably pretty hot for early season or southern states. Most of the time here in MI, I wear an old grey stocking cap.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 05-Jun-10




I just cut the excess bill from a ball cap and stitch it closed. Works for me.

From: reddogge
Date: 05-Jun-10




"Who cares about shooting? Hunting is the issue"

Bowmania, the OP specifically asked about shooting so we are trying to help him out a little.

From: Redback
Date: 05-Jun-10




Thats a great idea George and a simple fix i like baseball caps and this problem has been Vexing me for ages!

Redback

From: AZBEAR
Date: 05-Jun-10

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I had the same problem , went to a hat made by ARIZONA SHADDY HATS .. Sedona model .. made in the good old USA. You can Google them. AZ

From: AZBEAR
Date: 05-Jun-10




OOPS .. forgot to rotate ... sorry AZ

From: blackarrow
Date: 05-Jun-10




Thank you gentlemen for all your replies and ideas. I went to Cabelas today and tried on a gore-tex boonie hat that I liked. The brim on it was fairly short and it was easy to flip up. I have not bought it yet, but I am thinking that I will. I also liked the idea that it was waterproof. Thank you all.

From: Riverwolf
Date: 05-Jun-10

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From: Wudstix Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 05-Jun-10




Shoot a waxed cotton Filson hat that is just right. 2 1/2" brim.

From: AZBEAR
Date: 05-Jun-10




Hey Thx Riverwolf .... AZ

From: Jason Scott
Date: 07-Jun-10




I don't like any brim over my ears either. Sound is muffled and you can't tell what direction it's comming from.

From: Old Crow
Date: 07-Jun-10




I like the boonie, have several, they can be rolled up in front if you like, or pulled down over your eyes.

It protects from sun, and if you treat them with Hunt Dri, they still stay soft and protects from rain, snow. I use them for hunting, don't really care what it looks like, but they get the job done.

The soft brim doesn't interfere with bowstring. Also you can roll them up and stuff them in your pants leg pocket, or wear with a light face mask. I look for function,in a hat, not trying to be the best dressed hunter, or impress anyone anyway.

From: Rik
Date: 07-Jun-10

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No, no, no, you guys have it all wrong.

If you shoot long longbows like I do, just buy the hat you like the best, then take the scissors to the brim a little a time until your string no longer hits it.

The BEST part about this method is that you end up with a hat that looks a bit like something Dart Vader would wear

P.S. Extra adornments are optional.

From: Steve Milbocker
Date: 07-Jun-10




I wear a leather touring cap...if I wear a hat.

From: Onehair
Date: 07-Jun-10




Hitting my cap used to drive me nuts until I just decided to not worry about it. After about a month I realized that either I don't hit it anymore or just don't notice it. I think I going to a bigger hat.

From: Steve Milbocker
Date: 07-Jun-10




http://www.cablecarclothiers.com/caps_touring.html

From: OmegaRed
Date: 07-Jun-10




i wear a short brim hat. mason hats work well too!

From: Shadowstalker
Date: 07-Jun-10




Coups cap. http://www.plentycoupsarchery.com/Products.html

From: pondscum2
Date: 07-Jun-10




i wear a boonie too. safety pin one end up. wear that side to front for archery, to the back sitting against tree when turkey hunting, & to one side to look australian in failed attempt to get folks to buy me a beer...

From: deepshaft
Date: 07-Jun-10




I have two of the short brimmed bowhunter caps that I have had for about 15 years but I can't find any new ones. I got a camo Stormy Cromer bowhunter right before they quit making them. Other than these I wear a soft, short brimmed, GI boonie.

From: Pahana
Date: 07-Jun-10




Hey pondscum, someone said it doesnt matter how you wear YOUR hat while hunting turkeys.....nothing's gonna help!

is this true?

From: Wild Bill
Date: 07-Jun-10




It is pretty easy to add a snap to boonie. Snap the bill up on your shooting side. Gives you that "Aussie" look. It works.

From: longbowchampal
Date: 07-Jun-10




I make a short soft brimmed baseball style hat that is washable and foldable. $10. PM me if you want more info. I will have 4 to sell at cloverdale (tradeblanket time)

From: Ed Bock
Date: 07-Jun-10




Bob Lee sells a short brim baseball cap. Check their website.

From: Kapellmeister
Date: 26-Jul-10




In warm weather I just wear a cotton bandanna... in colder weather I like a wool boonie.

From: George Tsoukalas
Date: 26-Jul-10




For early season hunting I wear a mesh small billed cap. Jawge

From: reddogge Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 26-Jul-10




I just bought one from the Wensels at ETAR with the short wire brim. Works great!!!!

From: Slowtacktoo
Date: 26-Jul-10




In the Summer time I use my Ultimate hat with the right hand side snapped up so the bream does not touch my hand on the draw. In the Winter I use my Fred Bear "type" hat.

Thanks!

From: r.grider
Date: 26-Jul-10

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These hats have a wire brim that can be bent to any configuration, perfect bowhunters hat, sold by "Big Jim's Archery"

From: Coop
Date: 26-Jul-10




Short brim baseball hats are the ticket, nothing says your a bowhunter like a short bill hat. Problem is good low profile ones are hard to find. I've emailed tons of bowhunting suppliers suggesting they market a good one. But now adays I just find a baseball hat I like and take a good pair of tin snips to them. Kinda leaves a frayed end, just like the expensive hats that come with that already used look have! I've wore short bill baseball caps for so long I can't stand to wear a reg ball cap makes me feel like I'm wearing a duck bill in front of me! lol

From: Red Beastmaster
Date: 26-Jul-10




I turn my ball cap a little to the left, just enough for clearance.

I've been shooting a long time and I've never got used to string contact. I try to ignore it but it's not possible for me.

From: Trad-Hunter Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 27-Jul-10




Turn hat backward.....and for those hats with a soft brim I add Velcro to the front body of the hat and the brim so I can keep the brim turned up and out of the way.

From: elbow
Date: 27-Jul-10




Just bought a short brimmed hat from big jim at denton hill. There is wire in the brim so it bends up. For even more clearence.the hat looks like barry wensels and in fact the wensels were sellin themtoo. Great hat cheap price.

From: Hades
Date: 27-Jul-10




I just tilt the brim of my ball cap up until the string doesn't hit. If the bill slids down during the day when I draw, it just takes a small tilt of my head for the hat to slid up with the string pushing it.

I didn't know that the CLOTHES made a difference on bowhunters but guess I was wrong there. Who would have figured.

From: Shorthair Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 27-Jul-10




I have a boonie hat that I just roll up the brim...soft and does not interfere with string. My felt hat does though...I pinned it up with a safety pin for a long while but stays by itself mostly now when I wear it...usually just go with my boonie hat or a fleece cap with no brim if cold.

keep em sharp,

ron herman

From: Doug A
Date: 27-Jul-10




Early season, I use a camo ball cap from Wally World that I trimmed the brim with a pair of shears. When it gets colder, I use a Lite Felt Stetson from Cabela's. I formed the brim so it doesn't touch my string. Making or modifying your own gear is one of the great things about trad hunting.

From: longbowchampal
Date: 27-Jul-10




I am now known as "the alabama hat lady" PM me if you want more details.

From: Hoyt
Date: 27-Jul-10

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I bought one of the Art Young hats this yr, but the string hits the bill..2-5/8" bill. The only way I can stop it is to tilt the hat way up like Fred Bear did and I'm afraid it'll fall off back wards at the wrong time. Also don't like the fact that the brim in back hits tree when I lean back.

So I'll go hatless and carry a thin cloth baseball hat in my front pocket for when the sun gets in my eyes. I'll just cut the bill down short.

From: TaterSalad Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 27-Jul-10




Why not just wear a stocking cap?

From: Tomahawk
Date: 27-Jul-10




yall do know if you turn your baseball hat around your IQ will drop by 20 points...atleast that's what I tell the kids..lol

From: FRJ
Date: 27-Jul-10




Boonie is the way I've been going since coming home from the vietnam war games. Don't like waterproof since that which keeps water out keeps heat in. Just a plain of camo bush hat is all you need. Frank

From: Zipperin'
Date: 27-Jul-10




Boonie, soft enough to roll up and stuff....

That hat Dana C. posted is VERY nice.

Zip'

From: Trad-Hunter Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 27-Jul-10




Need a hat with a brim to keep the sun out of my eyes and the rain off my glasses. As I stated earlier, if I have a baseball type on I turn it around or push it to one side to shoot and if I have a soft brim I push the brim up and secure with the added Velcro I installed to shoot. I don't care how soft the brim is....I can feel the string touch and it just don't feel right to me.

From: longbowchampal
Date: 27-Jul-10




As I stated twice, I make such a hat,invented it for myself because I need to keep the sun/rain off my glasses. $10

From: longbowchampal
Date: 27-Jul-10

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From: maynard
Date: 27-Jul-10




wear Stormy Kromers...short brim...adequate eye shade and no string interference...theyre also warm here in Minnesota

From: junglehunter
Date: 27-Jul-10




i shoot in one of the fedora's from 3rivers. string contact does 's not seem to bother me. in hot weather i wear boonie from predator. my fedora has a nice little spot of string wax on it.

From: Wudstix Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 27-Jul-10




Also turning the brim a tad up or down works for the Fedora tyle. My one criteria for most shotting hats is the 2 1/2" rule. That works for me.

From: Fisher
Date: 27-Jul-10




Try using tin snips to cut a slot in the brim for the bowstring. It is an alternative option.

Or, do the Barry Wensel trick an turn it sideways.

I refuse to wear hat backwards. No hunting in the hood for me.

From: String Cutter
Date: 28-Jul-10




I wear a boone.... But my problem isn't the string clearing the hat.It's clearing my belly???

From: Wudstix Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 28-Jul-10




There's a totally different solution for belly clearance. :-)

From: traduke
Date: 28-Jul-10




The only hat I have found that doesn't get in the way is available from comeauxcaps.com.It is a light weight, short soft billed welding hat which comes in a variety of colors including camo,it can be folded to about the size of a hankercheif and will fit in any of your pockets.Very handy hat.

From: traduke
Date: 28-Jul-10




Oh by the way if your sting contacts the baseball style cap the short bill will flex without resistance or afecting your site picture.

From: traduke
Date: 28-Jul-10




Oh I'm sorry, when you go to comeauxcaps.com click on the 2000 series reversable style and scroll down for colors.

From: r.grider
Date: 28-Jul-10




Never could stand to wear a baseball cap backwards, it just doesn't feel right, and I can't lean back into a tree. Besides, it makes me want to wear long baggy shorts way below my buttline, and say things like " Yo" and "you know what i'm sayin'" and "sup"

From: Joe Van 125
Date: 28-Jul-10




Down here in Alabama if you were to wear one of those hats your head would be soaking wet, that i can promise you.

During early season bowhunting i don't even wear a hat its just to dang hot.

From: hawkeye Oh
Date: 29-Jul-10




Baseball cap backwards, Fedora, or boonie depending on weather etc...

From: loose arrow
Date: 29-Jul-10




Longbowchampal, increase the size of you picture so we all can see the details. Nice job on the championship! Was that a BW bow, or something else?

I use a Kromer welding hat turned a little to the side. I am also working on modifying a visor so it has a 2" bill. I like visors for summer use since they are cooler. I presently use a boony for hunting.

Happy hat hunting...

loose

From: longbowchampal
Date: 29-Jul-10

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The picture is of my first trad kill with a bow my husband built, I have on the short, soft brim hat I make. Here is another pic of me shooting at the Howard Hill shoot, again wearing the hat. I am shooting a r/d longbow my husband made (behind me) that I won the shoot off with and the IBO.

From: thatdogdonthunt
Date: 29-Jul-10




I did not see anyone mention the Stormy Kromer hat. short bill, wool, and covers ears if needed. I love mine, except I wish I could get one made in cotton for the warmer days.

From: loose arrow
Date: 29-Jul-10




Stormy Kromer no longer makes the hat with the shorter of the two bills. They only make one length now.

From: loose arrow
Date: 30-Jul-10




There is another welding hat company out there with a familiar name: Kromer Cap Company.

I still wear the hat I bought 22 years ago when I worked at a welding supply store. Short bill,very comfortable, and very colorful. Not to mention-cheap.

http://www.kromercap.com/StyleA.htm

I move this hat over a little bit to keep from contacting me string.

loose

From: John Carter
Date: 30-Jul-10

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I wear a soft leather Akubra from Australia,tilt it just slightly an the string clears easy. I wear it on that slight tilt all the time now an it's sort of shaped it'self to my head like that.

Great hat,but a bit warm in the summer





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