From: Keekeerun
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Date: 24-Apr-24 |
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What 29"arrows for my 51# Recurve? I'am interested in xx75 aluminums and shooting 125gr.-175 gr.2 blade. Zwicky/Grizzly/snuffer broadheads. I have a few 0ld 2114 arrows right now are they to light for my bow? Also a few 2117 & 2216 xx75.
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From: fdp
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Date: 24-Apr-24 |
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How do the 2114's shoot? That's right in the wheelhouse for that spine.
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From: Wudstix
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Date: 24-Apr-24 |
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2018, 2114 should be good. If not 2020, 2215 would be be stiffer. I am having good luck with 2020 from a Paul Bunyan Fiberglas 50# bow with D97 string and 160 point on aluminum broadhead adapters.
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From: jdbbowhunter
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Date: 24-Apr-24 |
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Have shot 2016,2018,2115 off 50-55 lb recurves. All shot good.
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From: deerhunt51
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Date: 24-Apr-24 |
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Have you tried a spine calculator? I would start there.
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From: bugsy 49
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Date: 24-Apr-24 |
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2016 or 2117
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From: Jim
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Date: 24-Apr-24 |
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2016 or a 2117 would be a good choice.
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From: Keekeerun
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Date: 24-Apr-24 |
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Thanks I have the 2114 arrows from my 50# longbow. I figured I was close but would check with you guys on the best size. I'am interested in using a good wood arrow also but don't know anyone to ask for help on what to get or where to buy.
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From: fdp
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Date: 24-Apr-24 |
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Buy them from Lost Nation if you want finished arrows. Call Larry and tell him what you want.
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From: Keekeerun
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Date: 24-Apr-24 |
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Thanks fdp will do.
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From: Corax_latrans
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Date: 24-Apr-24 |
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What’s your arrow length??
Depending on centershot and your string, and assuming an arrow of 28”, I would look at 2016, 2018 or 2114. 2117 for me (27 2/34” arrow) requires a bit over #60 with 125 gr points. If you shoot longer arrows, the 2117s may be fine or you may end up with a needlessly heavy arrow.
I have been able to shoot 2018s at my length and around #53-#54, but they’re on the stiff side. If you have big feathers on those 2114s, they will probably fly OK, but maybe not quite “perfectly”….. Bare shaft ‘em and you’ll know.
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From: BEARMAN
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Date: 25-Apr-24 |
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I wouldn’t consider them a 2114, 2117 is not a good arrow for that weight. To many guys shoot to stiff of aluminum because of bad information on the internet. If you have 2114s use those, otherwise I’d stick to 2016s.
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From: BEARMAN
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Date: 25-Apr-24 |
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Just for reference, on the ATA scale a 2117 rate around 77#, a 2114 is about 62# and a 2016 around 58#. The actual deflection is stiffer than what the old Easton charts claim. The old charts are what cause to many guys to shoot arrows that are way to stiff. It’s why you always see used 2117s for sale and you never see 2016s for sale used.
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From: GUTPILEPA
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Date: 25-Apr-24 |
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You’re right Bearman I agree
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From: BEARMAN
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Date: 25-Apr-24 |
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Sorry there was a typo, I meant to say I would try the 2114s if you have them already.
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From: MNFN
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Date: 25-Apr-24 |
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I’ll have to try 2016 in my 51# Black Widow. I thought it would be too weak as it shoots FMJ 400 pretty well in initial testing. But I have both arrows in stock at home so it will be easy to do.
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From: Corax_latrans
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Date: 25-Apr-24 |
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“ It’s why you always see used 2117s for sale and you never see 2016s for sale used.”
I think a lot of those used 2117s were bought for compounds, so yes, they’re too stiff to tune for most people, AND 2016s are more fragile— quite a bit, actually. So a much higher casualty rate kinda comes with the territory….
But you know…. String, centershot and shaft length are so important that there are things that will work which would blow your mind if you are too convinced that you know it all. I was pretty sure I’d be able to shoot 2117s with fairly heavy points from the EagleWing, but everything was hitting to the right until I cut back to 125 grains and built out my strike plate. A Lot.
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From: Trying hard
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Date: 25-Apr-24 |
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I've had good results with 2016's out of 50# bows...normally 175 grain up front.
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From: ahunter76
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Date: 25-Apr-24 |
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I shoot Aluminums out of my 50# Longbow, 29" & 125 gr heads. I use 2117s, 2219s & they both fly great. I've shot other sizes too. I've been in archery/bowhunting since 1956 & had a full time shop/lanes from 1964 thru 1982. Set up a ton of bows with Aluminum arrows for sure. You can get away with extremes with Aluminums & get perfect flight. Just stay on the "safe" side when going under spine.. Over spine you can get about any shaft to tune great. Go with the 2117s.
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From: Biathlonman
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Date: 25-Apr-24 |
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I’m thinking you’ll need a 2018….might get away with a 2016 depending on arrow length/point weight/draw length/string material. I tend to error on the side of stiff and bring them to tune with point weight. Not much way to stiffen them up once you have cut them to length.
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From: Takedown
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Date: 25-Apr-24 |
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I'm shooting 2018 full length with 250 up front equals a 680 gr arrow out of my 48/50# ASL. They fly like darts. I like a heavy arrow got my brain programmed to them. Good luck
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From: fdp
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Date: 25-Apr-24 |
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You can stiffen arrows up by reversing what you do to make them softer. Build out the side plate, decrease point weight, etc.
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From: Corax_latrans
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Date: 25-Apr-24 |
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Funny thing…. For a long time, I thought you’d have to be CRAZY to build out a sideplate…. But it’s easy and it works….
I could definitely shoot 2216 and probably 2219 out of this bow if I were willing to re- tune it, but there’d be no benefit from the 2216 and 2219s would probably net out too heavy for my purposes…. And I like how my carbon “load” matches the 2117s….
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From: Linecutter
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Date: 26-Apr-24 |
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It is all going to depend on what point weight you are going to use for that 29" arrow and how much total arrow weight you want. A 2114 is roughly the same spine as a 2018 of the same length. The 2018's will have the heavier mass weight between the 2. The 2016 has the weaker spine of the three. "I think", not sure, the 2114 and the 2016 will be close to having the same mass weight. So the 2016 would use a lighter point weight do to having a weaker spine and the 2114 and 2018 will need a heavier point weight due to having the stiffer spine. All three of those should work, but again it will depend on what your point weight choice will be, on that 29" arrow, as to which one you need to use . The 2117 people mention, your going to have to use a lot longer arrow and heavier point weight to break the spine down to shoot properly with your 51#'s of draw weight. As an example for the 2117. I shoot a 31.5 inch 2117 with a 175gr point that I draw to back of point on a 53#@28" Assenheimer Recurve and a 50#@28" Samick Journey Recurve (so I am pulling well over that 50# and 53# mark at my draw length), using a High Performance String, and pretty much shoot bullet holes through paper. Hope this helps. DANNY
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